Elektron Musical Instruments

> My goal is to play live with the MnM, MD, and what ever gear I feel
> like taking out.
> 
> Could you all give me some tips?!
> 
> 
> Thanks in advance.
> -M

> 
> 
> go to the record store and listen to lots of vinyl on the 
> headphones. buy some vinyl and copy the format used by experienced 
> producers. that's what they do. sometimes you'll go through a really 
> complicated process to come up with something simple. if you don't 
> know where to start go get some depeche mode remixes or something...
> 
> i hope this helps.. from damien
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> --- In elektron-users@yahoogroups.com, "finite_sf" <finite_sf@y...> 
> wrote:
> > 
> > I love my MnM and MD to death, and want to use the MnM as my main
> > sequencer. I have created a bunch of original patches on my MD, 
> MnM,
> > Pulse+, K5000s, Pro-One... and find that I dont have to reference 
> as
> > often.
> > 
> > I have created a bunch of sequences on my MnM, and my MD, as well 
> as
> > kits. I have even been able to sequence my external gear via my 
> MnM. I
> > love to go threw my patches, and play with pulling out puting in a
> > track... etc.. with the joystick...
> > 
> > My problem is how to I progress the track... intro, etc... is 
> there a
> > format that I should stick to? Whats the trick? LOL
> > 
> > I know how to get a good grove going with the MD, as well as the 
> MnM.
> > My goal is to play live with the MnM, MD, and what ever gear I feel
> > like taking out.
> > 
> > Could you all give me some tips?!
> > 
> > 
> > Thanks in advance.
> > -M

On 3/30/05 3:39 PM, "finite_sf" wrote:

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> LOL I got mad vinal man... and I do try to reproduce what I like. The
> thing is I want to understand the process that the pros use to crank
> out a track.
> 
> I can get a grove going no problem... I just need to compleate one of
> my groves into a track.
> 
> 
> -M
> 
> --- In elektron-users@yahoogroups.com, "sargeant_damien"
> <sargeant_damien@h...> wrote:
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>> go to the record store and listen to lots of vinyl on the
>> headphones. buy some vinyl and copy the format used by experienced
>> producers. that's what they do. sometimes you'll go through a really
>> complicated process to come up with something simple. if you don't
>> know where to start go get some depeche mode remixes or something...
>> 
>> i hope this helps.. from damien
>> 
>> 
>>

-----Original Message-----
From: Andy Tarpinian [mailto:evildead@...] 
Sent: Wednesday, March 30, 2005 11:48 PM
To: elektron-users@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [elektron] Re: How to create a track?!


There is no real standard process, people just use what works best for
them.
For me, I always start everything in hardware, get a sequence going, get
some variations going on, try to figure out some basic arrangement on
the
hardware sequencer I'm using, usually the MnM(a godsend), using mutes
the
joystick and pattern switching. Then record all the loops of each part
into
Logic, and work from there. More advanced arrangement, editing, adding
parts
on the fly from my gear, usually via midi before recording in, but
sometimes
just playing the audio in. Work on mixing, effects, getting the sound
where
I want it etc..  

Here's typically about a nights work for a track, the other night in
fact.
My stuff always starts as sketches like this.

http://www.nmisystem.com/music/release.mp3

P.S. Mostly MnM and SH-101 :)


On 3/30/05 3:39 PM, "finite_sf" wrote:

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> LOL I got mad vinal man... and I do try to reproduce what I like. The
> thing is I want to understand the process that the pros use to crank
> out a track.
> 
> I can get a grove going no problem... I just need to compleate one of
> my groves into a track.
> 
> 
> -M
> 
> --- In elektron-users@yahoogroups.com, "sargeant_damien"
> <sargeant_damien@h...> wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> go to the record store and listen to lots of vinyl on the
>> headphones. buy some vinyl and copy the format used by experienced
>> producers. that's what they do. sometimes you'll go through a really
>> complicated process to come up with something simple. if you don't
>> know where to start go get some depeche mode remixes or something...
>> 
>> i hope this helps.. from damien
>> 
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>> 




 
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On Mar 30, 2005, at 11:47 PM, Andy Tarpinian wrote:

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> There is no real standard process, people just use what works best for 
> them.
> For me, I always start everything in hardware, get a sequence going, 
> get
> some variations going on, try to figure out some basic arrangement on 
> the
> hardware sequencer I'm using, usually the MnM(a godsend), using mutes 
> the
> joystick and pattern switching. Then record all the loops of each part 
> into
> Logic, and work from there. More advanced arrangement, editing, adding 
> parts
> on the fly from my gear, usually via midi before recording in, but 
> sometimes
> just playing the audio in. Work on mixing, effects, getting the sound 
> where
> I want it etc..
>
> Here's typically about a nights work for a track, the other night in 
> fact.
> My stuff always starts as sketches like this.
>
> http://www.nmisystem.com/music/release.mp3
>
> P.S. Mostly MnM and SH-101 :)
>
>
> On 3/30/05 3:39 PM, "finite_sf" wrote:
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>>
>> LOL I got mad vinal man... and I do try to reproduce what I like. The
>> thing is I want to understand the process that the pros use to crank
>> out a track.
>>
>> I can get a grove going no problem... I just need to compleate one of
>> my groves into a track.
>>
>>
>> -M
>>
>> --- In elektron-users@yahoogroups.com, "sargeant_damien"
>> <sargeant_damien@h...> wrote:
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>>> go to the record store and listen to lots of vinyl on the
>>> headphones. buy some vinyl and copy the format used by experienced
>>> producers. that's what they do. sometimes you'll go through a really
>>> complicated process to come up with something simple. if you don't
>>> know where to start go get some depeche mode remixes or something...
>>>
>>> i hope this helps.. from damien
>>>
>>>
>>>
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On Mar 31, 2005, at 11:49 AM, Andy Tarpinian wrote:

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> On 3/31/05 8:49 AM, "Scott Kellogg" wrote:
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>> Andy,
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>> Is this track recorded mostly straight from the hardware, or did you
>> assemble it in Logic?
>>
>> /Scott
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> Well the first section was created and mock arranged on the MnM, 
> including
> the drums via midi. Then I recorded all the individual 4 bar loops for 
> each
> part, and assembled them on their respective tracks in logic basically
> replicating what I came up with on the MnM. The second section was all
> improv in logic because I can't sequence the 101 right now, so I just 
> played
> parts in live and edited and arranged them in logic.
>
> I find this works the best for me, get the inspiration from sequencing
> outside of the computer, and then getting it all in logic multitracked 
> so I
> have the freedom to get the mix I want and edit stuff visually.
>
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On 3/31/05 11:52 AM, "Scott Kellogg" wrote:

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> When you print MnM sound to Logic, do you kill the delay?  When I
> record MnM loops into Live, I run them in dry, and add FX in the
> software.  I guess this means that some of the cool delay/param lock
> tricks you can do on the MnM won't make it into loop form.
> 
> /Scott
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> On Mar 31, 2005, at 11:49 AM, Andy Tarpinian wrote:
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>> On 3/31/05 8:49 AM, "Scott Kellogg" wrote:
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>>> 
>>> Andy,
>>> 
>>> Is this track recorded mostly straight from the hardware, or did you
>>> assemble it in Logic?
>>> 
>>> /Scott
>> 
>> Well the first section was created and mock arranged on the MnM,
>> including
>> the drums via midi. Then I recorded all the individual 4 bar loops for
>> each
>> part, and assembled them on their respective tracks in logic basically
>> replicating what I came up with on the MnM. The second section was all
>> improv in logic because I can't sequence the 101 right now, so I just
>> played
>> parts in live and edited and arranged them in logic.
>> 
>> I find this works the best for me, get the inspiration from sequencing
>> outside of the computer, and then getting it all in logic multitracked
>> so I
>> have the freedom to get the mix I want and edit stuff visually.
>> 
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On Mar 31, 2005, at 12:01 PM, Andy Tarpinian wrote:

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> I usually keep the delay, when I record the loop I hit stop on the MnM 
> right
> at the end of the loop and keep logic recording so I keep the tail. I 
> don't
> always use it, sometimes a loop sounds ok if one cuts off where the 
> next
> begins, but I always have the tail in case I need to end a section and 
> want
> it to hang over. But if it's an important delay sometimes I just use 
> two
> tracks for one part and alternate the loops on each track so the tail 
> hangs
> over and I can keep track of everything.
>
> On 3/31/05 11:52 AM, "Scott Kellogg" wrote:
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>>
>> When you print MnM sound to Logic, do you kill the delay?  When I
>> record MnM loops into Live, I run them in dry, and add FX in the
>> software.  I guess this means that some of the cool delay/param lock
>> tricks you can do on the MnM won't make it into loop form.
>>
>> /Scott
>>
>> On Mar 31, 2005, at 11:49 AM, Andy Tarpinian wrote:
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>>>
>>> On 3/31/05 8:49 AM, "Scott Kellogg" wrote:
>>>
>>>>
>>>> Andy,
>>>>
>>>> Is this track recorded mostly straight from the hardware, or did you
>>>> assemble it in Logic?
>>>>
>>>> /Scott
>>>
>>> Well the first section was created and mock arranged on the MnM,
>>> including
>>> the drums via midi. Then I recorded all the individual 4 bar loops 
>>> for
>>> each
>>> part, and assembled them on their respective tracks in logic 
>>> basically
>>> replicating what I came up with on the MnM. The second section was 
>>> all
>>> improv in logic because I can't sequence the 101 right now, so I just
>>> played
>>> parts in live and edited and arranged them in logic.
>>>
>>> I find this works the best for me, get the inspiration from 
>>> sequencing
>>> outside of the computer, and then getting it all in logic 
>>> multitracked
>>> so I
>>> have the freedom to get the mix I want and edit stuff visually.
>>>
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>>> Yahoo! Groups Links
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