Elektron Musical Instruments

Hello all -

I am not an elektron user as of yet, but i know some (i bet they are here on this list too). 

I have a c=64 that i have used to make music since my dad bought it in the 80s. It has been 
harassing me lately about converting to a sid station. I remember a few years ago reading 
that you could send in your existing sid chip and have a station built with it. I couldn't find 
any reference to that on the site now. I have emailed elektron and i'm still waiting to here 
back. Anybody know anything about this? 

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On Jul 17, 2005, at 1:33 PM, jedihendrix wrote:

> I have a c=64 that i have used to make music since my dad bought it  
> in the 80s. It has been
> harassing me lately about converting to a sid station. I remember a  
> few years ago reading
> that you could send in your existing sid chip and have a station  
> built with it. I couldn't find
> any reference to that on the site now. I have emailed elektron and  
> i'm still waiting to here
> back. Anybody know anything about this?

I've never heard of this being an option.  in fact, i've heard quite  
the opposite.
I believe that Elektron has a FAQ on their Sidstation site (or  
perhaps its under
the info section) where they specifically state that they know you  
can get a
Sid chip used, but they didn't want to go that route and will only  
use new
Sid chips (thus the reason for selling 100 more Sidstations once they  
came
across 100 more new chips).

you can go to ucapps.de and look at the Sid synth there though.  it's  
a DIY
option to build your own Sid synth.  not exactly a Sidstation, but at  
least you're
using a Sid chip!  :-)

I'm about finished a MIDIbox SID for my modular synth. It is really 
wonderful -
I can route the 6 LFO's out to modulate other filters, and use other 
modulation sources to tweak the SID. That, and it is multitimbral to boot!
I was too cheap to drop $900 on a Sid-station: this project is under $200.
 picture at:
 http://69.56.171.55/~midibox/forum/index.php?topic=4963.0
 -gerald

 On 7/17/05, Joseph Melnyk <jmelnyk@...> wrote: 
> 
> you can go to ucapps.de <http://ucapps.de> and look at the Sid synth there 
> though. it's
> a DIY
> option to build your own Sid synth. not exactly a Sidstation, but at
> least you're
> using a Sid chip! :-)
>


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--- In elektron-users@yahoogroups.com, "jedihendrix" <yawho@1...> wrote:
> Hello all -
> 
> I am not an elektron user as of yet, but i know some (i bet they are
here on this list too). 
> 
> I have a c=64 that i have used to make music since my dad bought it
in the 80s. It has been 
> harassing me lately about converting to a sid station. I remember a
few years ago reading 
> that you could send in your existing sid chip and have a station
built with it. I couldn't find 
> any reference to that on the site now. I have emailed elektron and
i'm still waiting to here 
> back. Anybody know anything about this? 
> 
> - 13

You can try here for an alternative : http://www.hardsid.com/

Great. Thanks for all your input.
I am looking at this as the best option so far -

http://www.ucapps.de/midibox_sid/midibox_sid.jpg

Unless elektron decides they want to sell me a sidstation shell for my own chip.

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--- In elektron-users@yahoogroups.com, "mike" <vcagate@y...> wrote:

> --- In elektron-users@yahoogroups.com, "jedihendrix" <yawho@1...> wrote:
> > Hello all -
> > 
> > I am not an elektron user as of yet, but i know some (i bet they are
> here on this list too). 
> > 
> > I have a c=64 that i have used to make music since my dad bought it
> in the 80s. It has been 
> > harassing me lately about converting to a sid station. I remember a
> few years ago reading 
> > that you could send in your existing sid chip and have a station
> built with it. I couldn't find 
> > any reference to that on the site now. I have emailed elektron and
> i'm still waiting to here 
> > back. Anybody know anything about this? 
> > 
> > - 13
> 
> You can try here for an alternative : http://www.hardsid.com/

I'll try again - my mails just won't get through...

Any one w experince of sidstation vs hardsid? is the hardsid better? I'm 
a bit sceptic off the mini-jack outputs...

_bobo


mike wrote:

> --- In elektron-users@yahoogroups.com, "jedihendrix" <yawho@1...> wrote:
> > Hello all -
> >
> > I am not an elektron user as of yet, but i know some (i bet they are
> here on this list too).
> >
> > I have a c=64 that i have used to make music since my dad bought it
> in the 80s. It has been
> > harassing me lately about converting to a sid station. I remember a
> few years ago reading
> > that you could send in your existing sid chip and have a station
> built with it. I couldn't find
> > any reference to that on the site now. I have emailed elektron and
> i'm still waiting to here
> > back. Anybody know anything about this?
> >
> > - 13
>
> You can try here for an alternative : http://www.hardsid.com/
>
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i have both the sidstation has a much better midi implementation as u 
can access loads of parameters with CC controlers..

On 18 Jul 2005, at 19:09, Bobo wrote:

> Any one w experince of sidstation vs hardsid? is the hardsid better? 
> I'm
> a bit sceptic off the mini-jack outputs...

Subject: Re: [elektron] Re: my c=64 wants to be a sid station


>i have both the sidstation has a much better midi implementation as u 
> can access loads of parameters with CC controlers..

You can actually access ALL parameters via midi CC. Which means that you could easily patch your own control surface in say Reaktor or Clavia G2 (as I have done) if you don't build the full control surface(step C). Step A (with minimal knobs and display) works great in itself - even better if you hook it up to a midi controller or computer editor!

Cheers,
Mikael


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>>i have both the sidstation has a much better midi implementation as u 
>>can access loads of parameters with CC controlers..
> 
> 
> You can actually access ALL parameters via midi CC. Which means that you could easily patch your own control surface in say Reaktor or Clavia G2 (as I have done) if you don't build the full control surface(step C). Step A (with minimal knobs and display) works great in itself - even better if you hook it up to a midi controller or computer editor!
> 
> Cheers,
> Mikael


Which control surface do you use and do you have any templates.  And 
while I'm asking,  Anyone have any Edirol PCR controller templates?  :)

I use my Clavia G2 to program my MidiBox SID. But I guess a template could be made for the Behringer BCR2000 - you really want plenty of knobs since the MidiBox SID uses almost all 128 midi CCs. Otherwise a computer editor (like the JSynth Editor referenced at ucapps.de) work quite nice.

Cheers,
Mikael

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Robert Krueger" <rkr1@tampabay.rr.com>
To: <elektron-users@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Tuesday, July 19, 2005 11:26 PM
Subject: Re: [elektron] Re: my c=64 wants to be a sid station


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>>>i have both the sidstation has a much better midi implementation as u 
>>>can access loads of parameters with CC controlers..
>> 
>> 
>> You can actually access ALL parameters via midi CC. Which means that you could easily patch your own control surface in say Reaktor or Clavia G2 (as I have done) if you don't build the full control surface(step C). Step A (with minimal knobs and display) works great in itself - even better if you hook it up to a midi controller or computer editor!
>> 
>> Cheers,
>> Mikael
> 
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> Which control surface do you use and do you have any templates.  And 
> while I'm asking,  Anyone have any Edirol PCR controller templates?  :)
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sorry i was talking about the sidstation and the hardsid.. i dont have 
a midibox sid

On 19 Jul 2005, at 21:20, Lo-Fi Massahkah wrote:

> You can actually access ALL parameters via midi CC. Which means that 
> you could easily patch your own control surface in say Reaktor or 
> Clavia G2 (as I have done) if you don't build the full control 
> surface(step C). Step A (with minimal knobs and display) works great 
> in itself - even better if you hook it up to a midi controller or 
> computer editor!