Elektron Musical Instruments

So I keep having a blast with my MD-UW. It's really on another new 
level soundwise, and I hardly ever used the internal synth engines 
again. So, and and I know I'll get flamed from all over the place, 
would there be a way to get an UW only OS as an option? I mean, with 
the possibilities opened with the UW engine I'd trade the synth engines 
for another 32 slots of ROM. Or maybe just taking the E12 samples out 
and using that space for more ROM slots. This is crazy I know but I'd 
love to get more sample slots even if that would mean ditching the 
other synth engines.

Another one regards the remote possibility of saving the RAM phrases 
samples to memory even if only having two slots. I knid of feel bad to 
leave the MD on overnight to keep an idea to the next day. I've noticed 
that the factory sounds are restored once you make a factory reset, so 
to my (low) understanding this must mean that they're stored  
somewhere. I think this is somewhat useless since you can load them 
again easily for yourself if you want. Wouldn't it be possible to use 
that space in memory to save the info in the RAM machines, even if this 
would be made through the setup menu or something? And what about using 
this space for more ROM precious Kbs/slots?

Another (and last) request would be to give us more ROM slots even if 
maintaining the 2Mb size limit. I have my 32 slotrs full with 43% free 
memory. More slots would definitely come handy since I don't use the 
RAM slots that often due to the limitations mentioned above. 

What do you guys think of this?

--- In elektron-users@yahoogroups.com, "pixfodase" <rupix@h...> 
wrote:
>
> 
> 
> So I keep having a blast with my MD-UW. It's really on another new 
> level soundwise, and I hardly ever used the internal synth engines 
> again. So, and and I know I'll get flamed from all over the place, 
> would there be a way to get an UW only OS as an option? I mean, 
with 
> the possibilities opened with the UW engine I'd trade the synth 
engines 
> for another 32 slots of ROM. Or maybe just taking the E12 samples 
out 
> and using that space for more ROM slots. This is crazy I know but 
I'd 
> love to get more sample slots even if that would mean ditching the 
> other synth engines.
> 

maybe you mean PI section? that would be great but this is another 
new machine, Elektron sampling sequencer! (im waiting for this) the 
synthesis sections are fantastic. i must say i rarely use PI though

> Another one regards the remote possibility of saving the RAM 
phrases 
> samples to memory even if only having two slots. I knid of feel 
bad to 
> leave the MD on overnight to keep an idea to the next day. 

agreed, maybe in a future OS?

I've noticed 
> that the factory sounds are restored once you make a factory 
reset, so 
> to my (low) understanding this must mean that they're stored  
> somewhere. I think this is somewhat useless since you can load 
them 
> again easily for yourself if you want. Wouldn't it be possible to 
use 
> that space in memory to save the info in the RAM machines, 

in DSP memory?

even if this 
> would be made through the setup menu or something? And what about 
using 
> this space for more ROM precious Kbs/slots?
> 
> Another (and last) request would be to give us more ROM slots even 
if 
> maintaining the 2Mb size limit. I have my 32 slotrs full with 43% 
free 
> memory. More slots would definitely come handy since I don't use 
the 
> RAM slots that often due to the limitations mentioned above. 
> 
> What do you guys think of this?

get creative! load multiple samples per slot at 128th divisions. 
>

MD UW BELLISSSSIMO!

Your looking for an Akai MPC2500! Why do you own a MD if you dont use  
the sound design engine to make your own signature sounds. That seems  
fucking stupid to me to pay $1600.00 for 64 sample rom slots. Sorry  
for the hostility but you dont seem to get the purpose of this  
Machine. This is not an Idiots box. Only someone who puts in the time  
with the MD is going to get the most out of it! Secondly the UW  
option is like the icing on the cake except you want to throw away  
the cake and lick the frosting. If all you want is sampling you have  
the wrong Machine.
On Nov 22, 2005, at 3:49 PM, analogback wrote:

> --- In elektron-users@yahoogroups.com, "pixfodase" <rupix@h...>
> wrote:
> >
> >
> >
> > So I keep having a blast with my MD-UW. It's really on another new
> > level soundwise, and I hardly ever used the internal synth engines
> > again. So, and and I know I'll get flamed from all over the place,
> > would there be a way to get an UW only OS as an option? I mean,
> with
> > the possibilities opened with the UW engine I'd trade the synth
> engines
> > for another 32 slots of ROM. Or maybe just taking the E12 samples
> out
> > and using that space for more ROM slots. This is crazy I know but
> I'd
> > love to get more sample slots even if that would mean ditching the
> > other synth engines.
> >
>
> maybe you mean PI section? that would be great but this is another
> new machine, Elektron sampling sequencer! (im waiting for this) the
> synthesis sections are fantastic. i must say i rarely use PI though
>
> > Another one regards the remote possibility of saving the RAM
> phrases
> > samples to memory even if only having two slots. I knid of feel
> bad to
> > leave the MD on overnight to keep an idea to the next day.
>
> agreed, maybe in a future OS?
>
> I've noticed
> > that the factory sounds are restored once you make a factory
> reset, so
> > to my (low) understanding this must mean that they're stored
> > somewhere. I think this is somewhat useless since you can load
> them
> > again easily for yourself if you want. Wouldn't it be possible to
> use
> > that space in memory to save the info in the RAM machines,
>
> in DSP memory?
>
> even if this
> > would be made through the setup menu or something? And what about
> using
> > this space for more ROM precious Kbs/slots?
> >
> > Another (and last) request would be to give us more ROM slots even
> if
> > maintaining the 2Mb size limit. I have my 32 slotrs full with 43%
> free
> > memory. More slots would definitely come handy since I don't use
> the
> > RAM slots that often due to the limitations mentioned above.
> >
> > What do you guys think of this?
>
> get creative! load multiple samples per slot at 128th divisions.
> >
>
> MD UW BELLISSSSIMO!
>
>
>
>
>
>
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Hey Paul,

You're definitly lacking a lot of love for what I can see...

I suggest you some massage therapy or some days in the country side 
with your loved ones...

believe me...it'll do wonders.

cheers!
Rui




--- In elektron-users@yahoogroups.com, Paul Love <paul10love@c...> 
wrote:
>
> Your looking for an Akai MPC2500! Why do you own a MD if you dont 
use  
> the sound design engine to make your own signature sounds. That 
seems  
> fucking stupid to me to pay $1600.00 for 64 sample rom slots. 
Sorry  
> for the hostility but you dont seem to get the purpose of this  
> Machine. This is not an Idiots box. Only someone who puts in the 
time  
> with the MD is going to get the most out of it! Secondly the UW  
> option is like the icing on the cake except you want to throw away  
> the cake and lick the frosting. If all you want is sampling you 
have  
> the wrong Machine.
> On Nov 22, 2005, at 3:49 PM, analogback wrote:
> 
> > --- In elektron-users@yahoogroups.com, "pixfodase" <rupix@h...>
> > wrote:
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > So I keep having a blast with my MD-UW. It's really on another 
new
> > > level soundwise, and I hardly ever used the internal synth 
engines
> > > again. So, and and I know I'll get flamed from all over the 
place,
> > > would there be a way to get an UW only OS as an option? I mean,
> > with
> > > the possibilities opened with the UW engine I'd trade the synth
> > engines
> > > for another 32 slots of ROM. Or maybe just taking the E12 
samples
> > out
> > > and using that space for more ROM slots. This is crazy I know 
but
> > I'd
> > > love to get more sample slots even if that would mean ditching 
the
> > > other synth engines.
> > >
> >
> > maybe you mean PI section? that would be great but this is another
> > new machine, Elektron sampling sequencer! (im waiting for this) 
the
> > synthesis sections are fantastic. i must say i rarely use PI 
though
> >
> > > Another one regards the remote possibility of saving the RAM
> > phrases
> > > samples to memory even if only having two slots. I knid of feel
> > bad to
> > > leave the MD on overnight to keep an idea to the next day.
> >
> > agreed, maybe in a future OS?
> >
> > I've noticed
> > > that the factory sounds are restored once you make a factory
> > reset, so
> > > to my (low) understanding this must mean that they're stored
> > > somewhere. I think this is somewhat useless since you can load
> > them
> > > again easily for yourself if you want. Wouldn't it be possible 
to
> > use
> > > that space in memory to save the info in the RAM machines,
> >
> > in DSP memory?
> >
> > even if this
> > > would be made through the setup menu or something? And what 
about
> > using
> > > this space for more ROM precious Kbs/slots?
> > >
> > > Another (and last) request would be to give us more ROM slots 
even
> > if
> > > maintaining the 2Mb size limit. I have my 32 slotrs full with 
43%
> > free
> > > memory. More slots would definitely come handy since I don't use
> > the
> > > RAM slots that often due to the limitations mentioned above.
> > >
> > > What do you guys think of this?
> >
> > get creative! load multiple samples per slot at 128th divisions.
> > >
> >
> > MD UW BELLISSSSIMO!
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
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On Tue, Nov 22, 2005 at 07:38:21PM -0800, Paul Love wrote:
> Your looking for an Akai MPC2500! Why do you own a MD if you dont use  
> the sound design engine to make your own signature sounds. That seems  
> fucking stupid to me to pay $1600.00 for 64 sample rom slots.

the userwave's pretty ace, and if someone wanted to fill the
MD with sounds not achievable by the MD's synthesis engines, 
but still subject to the powerful processing and
sequencing tools provided by the machinedrum, then more power to him.

that said, i don't think something like that'll be in the
cards anytime soon, sorry.

-- 
yours,
niall.
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Teh he he. Anger is funny!
On Nov 22, 2005, at 9:18 PM, pixfodase wrote:

>
> Hey Paul,
>
> You're definitly lacking a lot of love for what I can see...
>
> I suggest you some massage therapy or some days in the country side
> with your loved ones...
>
> believe me...it'll do wonders.
>
> cheers!
> Rui
>
>
>
>
> --- In elektron-users@yahoogroups.com, Paul Love <paul10love@c...>
> wrote:
> >
> > Your looking for an Akai MPC2500! Why do you own a MD if you dont
> use
> > the sound design engine to make your own signature sounds. That
> seems
> > fucking stupid to me to pay $1600.00 for 64 sample rom slots.
> Sorry
> > for the hostility but you dont seem to get the purpose of this
> > Machine. This is not an Idiots box. Only someone who puts in the
> time
> > with the MD is going to get the most out of it! Secondly the UW
> > option is like the icing on the cake except you want to throw away
> > the cake and lick the frosting. If all you want is sampling you
> have
> > the wrong Machine.
> > On Nov 22, 2005, at 3:49 PM, analogback wrote:
> >
> > > --- In elektron-users@yahoogroups.com, "pixfodase" <rupix@h...>
> > > wrote:
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > So I keep having a blast with my MD-UW. It's really on another
> new
> > > > level soundwise, and I hardly ever used the internal synth
> engines
> > > > again. So, and and I know I'll get flamed from all over the
> place,
> > > > would there be a way to get an UW only OS as an option? I mean,
> > > with
> > > > the possibilities opened with the UW engine I'd trade the synth
> > > engines
> > > > for another 32 slots of ROM. Or maybe just taking the E12
> samples
> > > out
> > > > and using that space for more ROM slots. This is crazy I know
> but
> > > I'd
> > > > love to get more sample slots even if that would mean ditching
> the
> > > > other synth engines.
> > > >
> > >
> > > maybe you mean PI section? that would be great but this is another
> > > new machine, Elektron sampling sequencer! (im waiting for this)
> the
> > > synthesis sections are fantastic. i must say i rarely use PI
> though
> > >
> > > > Another one regards the remote possibility of saving the RAM
> > > phrases
> > > > samples to memory even if only having two slots. I knid of feel
> > > bad to
> > > > leave the MD on overnight to keep an idea to the next day.
> > >
> > > agreed, maybe in a future OS?
> > >
> > > I've noticed
> > > > that the factory sounds are restored once you make a factory
> > > reset, so
> > > > to my (low) understanding this must mean that they're stored
> > > > somewhere. I think this is somewhat useless since you can load
> > > them
> > > > again easily for yourself if you want. Wouldn't it be possible
> to
> > > use
> > > > that space in memory to save the info in the RAM machines,
> > >
> > > in DSP memory?
> > >
> > > even if this
> > > > would be made through the setup menu or something? And what
> about
> > > using
> > > > this space for more ROM precious Kbs/slots?
> > > >
> > > > Another (and last) request would be to give us more ROM slots
> even
> > > if
> > > > maintaining the 2Mb size limit. I have my 32 slotrs full with
> 43%
> > > free
> > > > memory. More slots would definitely come handy since I don't use
> > > the
> > > > RAM slots that often due to the limitations mentioned above.
> > > >
> > > > What do you guys think of this?
> > >
> > > get creative! load multiple samples per slot at 128th divisions.
> > > >
> > >
> > > MD UW BELLISSSSIMO!
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
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> online store
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> the userwave's pretty ace, and if someone wanted to fill the
> MD with sounds not achievable by the MD's synthesis engines, 
> but still subject to the powerful processing and
> sequencing tools provided by the machinedrum, then more power to 
him.
> 

yeah that's the point Niall. I think you got to have it to understand 
the request. 


> that said, i don't think something like that'll be in the
> cards anytime soon, sorry.
> 

well, I knew that beforehand :) 

But do you think it'd be too hard to give more slots even if 
maintaining the 2Mb limit? I don't know if there'd be restrictions to 
that. Maybe there are but if it's doable then they'd definitely be 
welcomed. 

I never thought you could get so much out of 10kb sounds. To tell the 
truth the MD is the only sampler I have in my rig. But I'm starting 
to get how Fat Boy Slim and Amon Tobin could make almost entire 
albums out of a S900... ;)

Best,
Rui

> Another (and last) request would be to give us more ROM slots even if 
> maintaining the 2Mb size limit. I have my 32 slotrs full with 43% free 
> memory. More slots would definitely come handy since I don't use the 
> RAM slots that often due to the limitations mentioned above. 

This would indeed be nice update. Allthought, 64 rom machines or
something would need ability to name them. So 64 or 96 rom machines
with ability to name them (in sample manager) would be very sweet. Now
you can use one slot for two or three samples and use start/end
parameters to choose them. This takes some time to do it all over
again and again, so individual slots and naming would be better in the
long run (if it seems people will do multiple samples on one slot a lot).

Toni.

--- In elektron-users@yahoogroups.com, "tahvenaine2002"
<toni.ahvenainen@p...> wrote:

> This would indeed be nice update. Allthought, 64 rom machines or
> something would need ability to name them. 

> Toni.

This is exactly what i allready mentioned before on Elektron-users.com.

I would really like to be able to categorize my samples. So "BD-xxxx"
and thus being able to identify the sample as being a Bassdrum en
having e number of characters to idetify it with your own personal naming.

> So I keep having a blast with my MD-UW. It's really on another new 
> level soundwise, and I hardly ever used the internal synth engines 
> again. So, and and I know I'll get flamed from all over the place, 
> would there be a way to get an UW only OS as an option? I mean, with 
> the possibilities opened with the UW engine I'd trade the synth engines 
> for another 32 slots of ROM. 

a Quick share of thought on this one. I _do agree_ that UW-sample
thing is great indeed. I still wouldn't trade the synth engine to
anything. Actually I've found out using even more synth side after
UW-upgrade than samples. Maybe this is because samples can create
certain acoustic things so easily, that I'm left to program synth side
even more. I would say that I would like to have some new
synth-machines there!

--- In elektron-users@yahoogroups.com, "acidfev" <hsoest2@h...> wrote:
>
> --- In elektron-users@yahoogroups.com, "tahvenaine2002"
> <toni.ahvenainen@p...> wrote:
> 
> > This would indeed be nice update. Allthought, 64 rom machines or
> > something would need ability to name them. 
> 
> > Toni.
> 
> This is exactly what i allready mentioned before on Elektron-users.com.
> 
> I would really like to be able to categorize my samples. So "BD-xxxx"
> and thus being able to identify the sample as being a Bassdrum en
> having e number of characters to idetify it with your own personal
naming.

...and there you see some of the problems arising when increasing the
number of available ROM-machines! Simplicity and limitiations can be a
bliss to creativity, but I know some will really dislike my views on
this. :)

--- In elektron-users@yahoogroups.com, "pixfodase" <rupix@h...> wrote:

> Another one regards the remote possibility of saving the RAM phrases 
> samples to memory even if only having two slots. I knid of feel bad to 
> leave the MD on overnight to keep an idea to the next day.

It wouldn't be impossible to allow copying a RAM machine to a ROM
position, thereby saving it for the future. It would allow for some
low-key sampler functionality. But the intention for the RAM machines
from the beginning is for live use and effects, therefore their
volatility.

> I've noticed 
> that the factory sounds are restored once you make a factory reset, so 
> to my (low) understanding this must mean that they're stored  
> somewhere. I think this is somewhat useless since you can load them 
> again easily for yourself if you want. Wouldn't it be possible to use 
> that space in memory to save the info in the RAM machines, even if this 
> would be made through the setup menu or something? And what about using 
> this space for more ROM precious Kbs/slots?

That factory default memory is the boot flash. Not the precious DSP
memory. So it could not be used for any live sounds.

Daniel

> ...and there you see some of the problems arising when increasing the
> number of available ROM-machines! Simplicity and limitiations can be a
> bliss to creativity, but I know some will really dislike my views on
> this. :)
> 
> 

Hey Daniel,
Thanks for replying about this.

I hear you on on how the limitations can trigger your creativity and 
your will to dig deeper, actually I think this was one reasons why I 
always found the MD a challenging machine. 

But I think this has nothing to do with the number of slots you have 
and really there's the same logic in renaming 64 or 32 slots. With 
time, you memorize them all specially if you organize them in an 
orderly manner (useful when you switch kits)

I really think this would be useful for most of us, and would avoid 
having to burn several samples "packed" into one as we're doing atm.

What you think?

Here's a suggestion to Elektron for their next music
making  machine (I'll buy  the first one!!!!) 
With somebody's post the other day about that program
that turns the PSP into a drum machine i got to
thinking of how much fun I used to have with my old
roland PMA-5 a portable little work station that was
great (exept for the ussual cheesy Roland sound) and
how much i miss having a little portable synth to make
music on . And this led me to: Why doesn't Elektron do
a really small, dedicated, proffessional, truly
portable instrument. A sort of PSP for music. There's
really nothing like it out there, and all of us who
travel to any extent (even if it is the subway) can
appreciate having a truly portable music machine.
Computers are a nice  option, but really too bulky and
slow for most commuting, and even most airplanes. with
technology the way it is today, it's really strange
that nobody has put out another portable workstation.
And with Elektron's venturing into the sampling world,
it really opens up the door for them  to do it. 
Come on Daniel!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


	
		
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