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2006-02-01 by fesps1
Hello guys. Amongst my set-up I have a MD as well as EMU proteus world sounds percussion synth. Is it possible to plug the MD into the EMU and have MD play its own patterns but using the EMU's sounds? Infact, can the MD control any other syths in playing back in real time over 16 channels? Thanks
2006-02-01 by niall munnelly
On Wed, Feb 01, 2006 at 04:09:32PM -0000, fesps1 wrote: > Hello guys. Amongst my set-up I have a MD as well as EMU proteus world > sounds percussion synth. Is it possible to plug the MD into the EMU > and have MD play its own patterns but using the EMU's sounds? Infact, > can the MD control any other syths in playing back in real time over > 16 channels? yep, these are called midi machines. someone who uses them more than i do can tell you more about them, i'm sure. -- yours, niall. .. . . . . . . . . . aleph null. a simple insinuation around silence. http://syncretism.net .. .. gpg public key - http://www.aleph-null.net/niall.gpg .. ..
2006-02-01 by Jesse
God, I cant think of many kits I havent added midi machines too... Basically I'll set up a few midi machines on channel 1 onto a few instrument pads, and sequence little basslines or whatever to shoot over to my Akai s612 sampler or a Synth or anything really.... To not confuse the hell out of myself I used the midi map editor (i think thats what its called) to turn off all the drum pads from transmitting midi notes since I just record drum audio and no longer record drum midi notes like my old anal retentive days... Works awesome to trigger synths, you can do a lot of things with the Note 1 & 2 parameters etc... Its basically a built in sequencer in your MDrum.... love it.... I do own a full on midi sequencer and am currently building a P3 sequencer kit from the bottom up, but have enjoyed the MD midi machines for a few years now... When I finally went through the entire manual a few years ago and discovered the midi machines it was like finding jesus..... -JC www.jessecobra.net
----- Original Message -----
From: niall munnelly
To: elektron-users@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Wednesday, February 01, 2006 11:17 AM
Subject: Re: [elektron] Can MD control all midi
On Wed, Feb 01, 2006 at 04:09:32PM -0000, fesps1 wrote:
> Hello guys. Amongst my set-up I have a MD as well as EMU proteus world
> sounds percussion synth. Is it possible to plug the MD into the EMU
> and have MD play its own patterns but using the EMU's sounds? Infact,
> can the MD control any other syths in playing back in real time over
> 16 channels?
yep, these are called midi machines. someone who uses them
more than i do can tell you more about them, i'm sure.
--
yours,
niall.
.. . . . . . . . . .
aleph null. a simple insinuation around silence.
http://syncretism.net
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[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]2006-02-01 by niall munnelly
On Wed, Feb 01, 2006 at 01:02:45PM -0500, Jesse wrote: > > When I finally went through the entire manual a few years ago and discovered the midi machines it was like finding jesus..... wait til you try the ones on the monomachine ;) -- yours, niall. .. . . . . . . . . . aleph null. a simple insinuation around silence. http://syncretism.net .. .. gpg public key - http://www.aleph-null.net/niall.gpg .. ..
2006-02-01 by Jesse
oh yea? they must be the same as on the MD, no?
----- Original Message -----
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To: elektron-users@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Wednesday, February 01, 2006 1:29 PM
Subject: Re: [elektron] Can MD control all midi
On Wed, Feb 01, 2006 at 01:02:45PM -0500, Jesse wrote:
>
> When I finally went through the entire manual a few years ago and discovered the midi machines it was like finding jesus.....
wait til you try the ones on the monomachine ;)
--
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niall.
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[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]2006-02-20 by Festus Williams
So sorry. I've just seen the MIDI machines stuff lurking in the back pages of the manual! Thanks for reply tho Jesse <jesse@...> wrote: oh yea? they must be the same as on the MD, no?
----- Original Message -----
From: niall munnelly
To: elektron-users@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Wednesday, February 01, 2006 1:29 PM
Subject: Re: [elektron] Can MD control all midi
On Wed, Feb 01, 2006 at 01:02:45PM -0500, Jesse wrote:
>
> When I finally went through the entire manual a few years ago and discovered the midi machines it was like finding jesus.....
wait til you try the ones on the monomachine ;)
--
yours,
niall.
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[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]2006-02-20 by Festus Williams
Thanks for getting back to me. I feel so stupid for not noticing the midi machines page in the manual. I'm gonna give 'em a try toaday. Thanks again Jesse <jesse@...> wrote: God, I cant think of many kits I havent added midi machines too... Basically I'll set up a few midi machines on channel 1 onto a few instrument pads, and sequence little basslines or whatever to shoot over to my Akai s612 sampler or a Synth or anything really.... To not confuse the hell out of myself I used the midi map editor (i think thats what its called) to turn off all the drum pads from transmitting midi notes since I just record drum audio and no longer record drum midi notes like my old anal retentive days... Works awesome to trigger synths, you can do a lot of things with the Note 1 & 2 parameters etc... Its basically a built in sequencer in your MDrum.... love it.... I do own a full on midi sequencer and am currently building a P3 sequencer kit from the bottom up, but have enjoyed the MD midi machines for a few years now... When I finally went through the entire manual a few years ago and discovered the midi machines it was like finding jesus..... -JC www.jessecobra.net
----- Original Message -----
From: niall munnelly
To: elektron-users@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Wednesday, February 01, 2006 11:17 AM
Subject: Re: [elektron] Can MD control all midi
On Wed, Feb 01, 2006 at 04:09:32PM -0000, fesps1 wrote:
> Hello guys. Amongst my set-up I have a MD as well as EMU proteus world
> sounds percussion synth. Is it possible to plug the MD into the EMU
> and have MD play its own patterns but using the EMU's sounds? Infact,
> can the MD control any other syths in playing back in real time over
> 16 channels?
yep, these are called midi machines. someone who uses them
more than i do can tell you more about them, i'm sure.
--
yours,
niall.
.. . . . . . . . . .
aleph null. a simple insinuation around silence.
http://syncretism.net
.. .. gpg public key - http://www.aleph-null.net/niall.gpg .. ..
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[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]2006-02-21 by Festus Williams
Hey MR J. I was easily able to slave MD to PT5(thanks!), but when the tempo reader is displayed in MD it is not a constant reading recieved from PT5; varying between about 0.7BPM eg what should be 120BPM in/PT5 gives a reading that swings between 119.7 to 120.5 in the MD display. At the very least it's distracting. Do you get this with PT6 as a master? Also I found it impossible to work things the other way round with PT5 being slaved to MD. Can this be done as PT5 only responds to MMC (midi machine control) messages. I'm guessing PT6 responds to a much more up to date midi language/code? Jesse <jesse@...> wrote: oh yea? they must be the same as on the MD, no?
----- Original Message -----
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To: elektron-users@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Wednesday, February 01, 2006 1:29 PM
Subject: Re: [elektron] Can MD control all midi
On Wed, Feb 01, 2006 at 01:02:45PM -0500, Jesse wrote:
>
> When I finally went through the entire manual a few years ago and discovered the midi machines it was like finding jesus.....
wait til you try the ones on the monomachine ;)
--
yours,
niall.
.. . . . . . . . . .
aleph null. a simple insinuation around silence.
http://syncretism.net
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[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]2006-02-22 by tahvenaine2002
As explained to me by Daniel from Elektron, the varying of bpm is some
kind of rounding error coming from the one-way-nature of midi
protocol. So the bpm isn't displayed accurately (because it cannot be
done?), but the MD should be in tight sync. Do test with recording
audio and see how tightly they sit on a grid (you might have few ms
(1-3) difference, but it doesn't matter)
--- In elektron-users@yahoogroups.com, Festus Williams <fesps1@...> wrote:
>
> Hey MR J.
> I was easily able to slave MD to PT5(thanks!), but when the tempo
reader is displayed in MD it is not a constant reading recieved from
PT5; varying between about 0.7BPM eg what should be 120BPM in/PT5
gives a reading that swings between 119.7 to 120.5 in the MD display.
At the very least it's distracting. Do you get this with PT6 as a master?
> Also I found it impossible to work things the other way round with
PT5 being slaved to MD. Can this be done as PT5 only responds to MMC
(midi machine control) messages. I'm guessing PT6 responds to a much
more up to date midi language/code?
>
> Jesse <jesse@...> wrote:
> oh yea? they must be the same as on the MD, no?
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: niall munnelly
> To: elektron-users@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Wednesday, February 01, 2006 1:29 PM
> Subject: Re: [elektron] Can MD control all midi
>
>
> On Wed, Feb 01, 2006 at 01:02:45PM -0500, Jesse wrote:
> >
> > When I finally went through the entire manual a few years ago
and discovered the midi machines it was like finding jesus.....
> wait til you try the ones on the monomachine ;)
>
> --
> yours,
> niall.
> .. . . . . . . . .
.
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around silence.
> http://syncretism.net
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2006-02-22 by Jesse
Yes, I totally see what bpm changes you are seeing... it is normal, and from my experience, doesnt amount to a hill of beans.... -JC
----- Original Message -----
From: tahvenaine2002
To: elektron-users@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Wednesday, February 22, 2006 3:23 AM
Subject: Re: [elektron] Can MD control all midi
As explained to me by Daniel from Elektron, the varying of bpm is some
kind of rounding error coming from the one-way-nature of midi
protocol. So the bpm isn't displayed accurately (because it cannot be
done?), but the MD should be in tight sync. Do test with recording
audio and see how tightly they sit on a grid (you might have few ms
(1-3) difference, but it doesn't matter)
--- In elektron-users@yahoogroups.com, Festus Williams <fesps1@...> wrote:
>
> Hey MR J.
> I was easily able to slave MD to PT5(thanks!), but when the tempo
reader is displayed in MD it is not a constant reading recieved from
PT5; varying between about 0.7BPM eg what should be 120BPM in/PT5
gives a reading that swings between 119.7 to 120.5 in the MD display.
At the very least it's distracting. Do you get this with PT6 as a master?
> Also I found it impossible to work things the other way round with
PT5 being slaved to MD. Can this be done as PT5 only responds to MMC
(midi machine control) messages. I'm guessing PT6 responds to a much
more up to date midi language/code?
>
> Jesse <jesse@...> wrote:
> oh yea? they must be the same as on the MD, no?
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: niall munnelly
> To: elektron-users@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Wednesday, February 01, 2006 1:29 PM
> Subject: Re: [elektron] Can MD control all midi
>
>
> On Wed, Feb 01, 2006 at 01:02:45PM -0500, Jesse wrote:
> >
> > When I finally went through the entire manual a few years ago
and discovered the midi machines it was like finding jesus.....
> wait til you try the ones on the monomachine ;)
>
> --
> yours,
> niall.
> .. . . . . . . . .
.
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around silence.
> http://syncretism.net
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[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]2006-02-22 by Festus Williams
thank you for that.
tahvenaine2002 <toni.ahvenainen@...> wrote: As explained to me by Daniel from Elektron, the varying of bpm is some
kind of rounding error coming from the one-way-nature of midi
protocol. So the bpm isn't displayed accurately (because it cannot be
done?), but the MD should be in tight sync. Do test with recording
audio and see how tightly they sit on a grid (you might have few ms
(1-3) difference, but it doesn't matter)
--- In elektron-users@yahoogroups.com, Festus Williams <fesps1@...> wrote:
>
> Hey MR J.
> I was easily able to slave MD to PT5(thanks!), but when the tempo
reader is displayed in MD it is not a constant reading recieved from
PT5; varying between about 0.7BPM eg what should be 120BPM in/PT5
gives a reading that swings between 119.7 to 120.5 in the MD display.
At the very least it's distracting. Do you get this with PT6 as a master?
> Also I found it impossible to work things the other way round with
PT5 being slaved to MD. Can this be done as PT5 only responds to MMC
(midi machine control) messages. I'm guessing PT6 responds to a much
more up to date midi language/code?
>
> Jesse <jesse@...> wrote:
> oh yea? they must be the same as on the MD, no?
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: niall munnelly
> To: elektron-users@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Wednesday, February 01, 2006 1:29 PM
> Subject: Re: [elektron] Can MD control all midi
>
>
> On Wed, Feb 01, 2006 at 01:02:45PM -0500, Jesse wrote:
> >
> > When I finally went through the entire manual a few years ago
and discovered the midi machines it was like finding jesus.....
> wait til you try the ones on the monomachine ;)
>
> --
> yours,
> niall.
> .. . . . . . . . .
.
> aleph null. a simple insinuation
around silence.
> http://syncretism.net
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[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]2006-02-22 by cenk sayinli
Yes i sync it up with live and reason and i get the same bpm switching(119- 121 and stuff like that) on reason.
But i think the timing is pretty correct.I would nt think the MD is gonna screw up like that:)
Festus Williams <fesps1@...> wrote:
thank you for that.
tahvenaine2002 <toni.ahvenainen@...> wrote: As explained to me by Daniel from Elektron, the varying of bpm is some
kind of rounding error coming from the one-way-nature of midi
protocol. So the bpm isn't displayed accurately (because it cannot be
done?), but the MD should be in tight sync. Do test with recording
audio and see how tightly they sit on a grid (you might have few ms
(1-3) difference, but it doesn't matter)
--- In elektron-users@yahoogroups.com, Festus Williams <fesps1@...> wrote:
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> Hey MR J.
> I was easily able to slave MD to PT5(thanks!), but when the tempo
reader is displayed in MD it is not a constant reading recieved from
PT5; varying between about 0.7BPM eg what should be 120BPM in/PT5
gives a reading that swings between 119.7 to 120.5 in the MD display.
At the very least it's distracting. Do you get this with PT6 as a master?
> Also I found it impossible to work things the other way round with
PT5 being slaved to MD. Can this be done as PT5 only responds to MMC
(midi machine control) messages. I'm guessing PT6 responds to a much
more up to date midi language/code?
>
> Jesse <jesse@...> wrote:
> oh yea? they must be the same as on the MD, no?
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: niall munnelly
> To: elektron-users@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Wednesday, February 01, 2006 1:29 PM
> Subject: Re: [elektron] Can MD control all midi
>
>
> On Wed, Feb 01, 2006 at 01:02:45PM -0500, Jesse wrote:
> >
> > When I finally went through the entire manual a few years ago
and discovered the midi machines it was like finding jesus.....
> wait til you try the ones on the monomachine ;)
>
> --
> yours,
> niall.
> .. . . . . . . . .
.
> aleph null. a simple insinuation
around silence.
> http://syncretism.net
> .. .. gpg public key - http://www.aleph-null.net/niall.gpg .. ..
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[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]2006-02-23 by Festus Williams
It was not the MD that I was worried about screwing up. It is the fact that it is being slaved to a seqencer; that may or may not be 'dead-on' accurate. The MD manual does say that there may be problems using certain "big name sequencers" in terms of their timing, hence my asking if anyone knew how to slave Pro Tools 5 to MD SPS1.
cenk sayinli <cenksayinli@...> wrote: Yes i sync it up with live and reason and i get the same bpm switching(119- 121 and stuff like that) on reason.
But i think the timing is pretty correct.I would nt think the MD is gonna screw up like that:)
Festus Williams <fesps1@...> wrote:
thank you for that.
tahvenaine2002 <toni.ahvenainen@...> wrote: As explained to me by Daniel from Elektron, the varying of bpm is some
kind of rounding error coming from the one-way-nature of midi
protocol. So the bpm isn't displayed accurately (because it cannot be
done?), but the MD should be in tight sync. Do test with recording
audio and see how tightly they sit on a grid (you might have few ms
(1-3) difference, but it doesn't matter)
--- In elektron-users@yahoogroups.com, Festus Williams <fesps1@...> wrote:
>
> Hey MR J.
> I was easily able to slave MD to PT5(thanks!), but when the tempo
reader is displayed in MD it is not a constant reading recieved from
PT5; varying between about 0.7BPM eg what should be 120BPM in/PT5
gives a reading that swings between 119.7 to 120.5 in the MD display.
At the very least it's distracting. Do you get this with PT6 as a master?
> Also I found it impossible to work things the other way round with
PT5 being slaved to MD. Can this be done as PT5 only responds to MMC
(midi machine control) messages. I'm guessing PT6 responds to a much
more up to date midi language/code?
>
> Jesse <jesse@...> wrote:
> oh yea? they must be the same as on the MD, no?
> ----- Original Message -----
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> Sent: Wednesday, February 01, 2006 1:29 PM
> Subject: Re: [elektron] Can MD control all midi
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> On Wed, Feb 01, 2006 at 01:02:45PM -0500, Jesse wrote:
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> > When I finally went through the entire manual a few years ago
and discovered the midi machines it was like finding jesus.....
> wait til you try the ones on the monomachine ;)
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