Elektron Musical Instruments

Hello! I'm new here. 

A quick question for you guys. 

Does anyone here use their MachineDrum with Pro-Tools?

This is my set up. A MacPro running OSX4.9 with ProTools 7.3.1 via a Digi 002 desk. I'll be 
using my MachineDrum as my main source of beats/rythms.

I was wondering how you guys integrate MD into PT? Do you compose in song mode in MD 
and then run it as a Midi slave to PT? Or do you actually record your MD patterns/sounds 
into PT and then paste it together? Or do you trigger the MD's sounds via the PT 
sequencer? 

There seems to be many ways to skin this cat but what have you found the best way? I am 
intending to use PT as the master clock so MD, along with a few other bits of gear, will be 
slaved. 

Have any of you had any timing issues with this sort of set-up. 

Many thanks in advance for your help guys/girls. 

Haiku

Hi - have a look at my site if your interested in Sync/MD/Tools etc.
if you have time. Apart from a good hardware solution to sync-offset
issues between hardware and software application - I have a compiled
some good  information regarding sync in general. I have Tools and the
SPS-1. Best regards - David
www.innerclocksystems.com

Thanks for your post David. Looks like an interesting piece of gear you have there. 

Is it strictly MIDI or does it handle word-clock too?

Also, how do you integrate MD into PT? 

Do you compose in song mode in MD and then run it as a Midi slave to PT? 

Or do you actually record your MD patterns/sounds into PT and then paste it together? 

Or do you trigger the MD's sounds via the PT sequencer?

Thanks

Haiku



--- In elektron-users@yahoogroups.com, "innerclock2004" <david@...> wrote:

>
> Hi - have a look at my site if your interested in Sync/MD/Tools etc.
> if you have time. Apart from a good hardware solution to sync-offset
> issues between hardware and software application - I have a compiled
> some good  information regarding sync in general. I have Tools and the
> SPS-1. Best regards - David
> www.innerclocksystems.com
>

Hi Haiku,

The Shift is strictly Midi Clock and Din Sync - in tempo/sync terms
Word Clock is not required or relevant (the SPS-1 has no Digital
Output) which is why it has no Word Clock fitted.

I use a very old method of sync you probably dont want to visit - and
it's a long twisty story - ask me if you are really interested - it's
complicated but after 10 years of dealing with computers and sync -
it's my prefered option for sure. Not for everybody though!

In more simple terms - (make certain your Midi Clock output from Tools
is stable first - most are horrid BTW - It's a shame you can't slave
Tools off the MD which would be better. I would always work in song
mode and track separate outputs from SPS-1 (6 outs) in a single record
pass to separate tracks within Tools. If you need more than 6 tracks
of percussion - arm more tracks and do the same from the top of the song.

Try to work with the recorded performance of the machine in real-time
rather than record two bars and loop it in the DAW - IMO this makes
for boring and predictable electronic music and removes any posible
magic that happens when machines run the length of the composition and
in perfect sync.

So - for a 10 minute song - you record for 10 minutes each pass - let
the machines talk - see what happens!

If neccesary edit the tracks in Tools after the recording.

No cut and paste - it's a cheap and nasty way to make music!

PT sequencer is a big no no too - in the MD you have one of the
world's best hardware, active step sequencers - it is criminal to
drive such fine hardware via sloppy USB/Midi from a virtual hack
sequencing engine on software that is great as a Tape machine but not
much else.

Love your Hardware! 

All the best.

David
www.innerclocksystems.com

--- In elektron-users@yahoogroups.com, "haikuhead" <haikuhead@...> wrote:
>
> Thanks for your post David. Looks like an interesting piece of gear
you have there. 
> 
> Is it strictly MIDI or does it handle word-clock too?
> 
> Also, how do you integrate MD into PT? 
> 
> Do you compose in song mode in MD and then run it as a Midi slave to
PT? 
> 
> Or do you actually record your MD patterns/sounds into PT and then
paste it together? 

> 
> Or do you trigger the MD's sounds via the PT sequencer?
> 
> Thanks
> 
> Haiku
> 
> 
> 
> --- In elektron-users@yahoogroups.com, "innerclock2004" <david@> wrote:
> >
> > Hi - have a look at my site if your interested in Sync/MD/Tools etc.
> > if you have time. Apart from a good hardware solution to sync-offset
> > issues between hardware and software application - I have a compiled
> > some good  information regarding sync in general. I have Tools and the
> > SPS-1. Best regards - David
> > www.innerclocksystems.com
> >
>