Elektron Musical Instruments

Hello fellow MD'er,

I'm curious about some LFO Routing parameters that are not explained in the 
manual.
It is LFOS / LFOD / LDOM. Does anyone know about them ? It looks like M is 
the amount of modulation and D would be a LFO delay but I can't figure out 
what the S is .

Does anyone know about that ?

Also, does anyone knows if in TRIG mode, it is possible to have the LFO 
doing only once cycle ?

Thanks heaps for any hint,
M-.-n

Of sources, I soon as I've send the mail, I've understood what is was :-)
The are shortcuts to the LFO parameters of the track:

LFOS is the speed of the LFO
LFOD is its depth
LFOM is the wave mix

But still, it is possible to have the LFO doing only one cylce ?

Cheers,
Marc

At 10:21 AM 9/14/2001 +0200, you wrote:

>Hello fellow MD'er,
>
>I'm curious about some LFO Routing parameters that are not explained in the
>manual.
>It is LFOS / LFOD / LDOM. Does anyone know about them ? It looks like M is
>the amount of modulation and D would be a LFO delay but I can't figure out
>what the S is .
>
>Does anyone know about that ?
>
>Also, does anyone knows if in TRIG mode, it is possible to have the LFO
>doing only once cycle ?
>
>Thanks heaps for any hint,
>M-.-n
>
>
>
>
>
>Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/

Jus a guess, ...Speed?

I'm curious about some LFO Routing parameters that are not explained in the
manual.
It is LFOS / LFOD / LDOM. Does anyone know about them ? It looks like M is
the amount of modulation and D would be a LFO delay but I can't figure out
what the S is .

Speed - Depth - Mix

Splank

-----Original Message-----
From: Rob Holding [mailto:robholding@...]
Sent: Freitag, 14. September 2001 23:54
To: elektron-users@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [elektron] MD - LFO Routing


Jus a guess, ...Speed?

I'm curious about some LFO Routing parameters that are not explained in the
manual.
It is LFOS / LFOD / LDOM. Does anyone know about them ? It looks like M is
the amount of modulation and D would be a LFO delay but I can't figure out
what the S is .



 

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I believe these are identical copies of the params in the LFO menu
LFOS = speed
LFOD = depth
LFOM = the mix between the two LFO shapes

Happy LFO'ing

-N

> Jus a guess, ...Speed?
> 
> I'm curious about some LFO Routing parameters that are not explained in the
> manual.
> It is LFOS / LFOD / LDOM. Does anyone know about them ? It looks like M is
> the amount of modulation and D would be a LFO delay but I can't figure out
> what the S is .

okay, here's my informal measurements of machinedrum "noise."

when I plug the MD into the aux input into my sp-808, and JACK the input
level of the sp-808 past 1/2 way (which I never usually need to do, since
it's a very powerful input amplifier), with the machinedrum off or
unplugged, it is possible to pick up an AM station with some noise in the
background from any input.  Output C is slightly quieter than the other 5.

with the unit on, there is an ambient noise level with my input amplifier
turned up very high, but i can't really tell if it's louder than any of my
other instruments.

as far as crossover goes, I can make out some from channel to channel. It is
very difficult to make out however, as it is quieter than the ambient noise
level.  as suggested, I played a kick drum in on channel and listened to
a neighboring channel.  the crossover noise was faintly audible and
in some way related to the distortion artificats of a neigbhoring channel.

for example, a long decaying kick drum would delay the onset of crossover
signals until the sound from the designated track fell within a certain
range of frequencies.  moreover, it only seemed to occur when the first
track was undergoing distortion from the extreme input amplifer settings.

I should also add this thing sounds wicked crazy through a sherman
filterbank...just ask Elvis...he appeared on my screen tonight and told me
so.

-N

on 2/8/02 7:48 AM, shifty@... at shifty@... wrote:

> 
> okay, here's my informal measurements of machinedrum "noise."
> 
> when I plug the MD into the aux input into my sp-808, and JACK the input
> level of the sp-808 past 1/2 way (which I never usually need to do, since
> it's a very powerful input amplifier), with the machinedrum off or
> unplugged, it is possible to pick up an AM station with some noise in the
> background from any input.  Output C is slightly quieter than the other 5.
> 
> with the unit on, there is an ambient noise level with my input amplifier
> turned up very high, but i can't really tell if it's louder than any of my
> other instruments.
> 
> as far as crossover goes, I can make out some from channel to channel. It is
> very difficult to make out however, as it is quieter than the ambient noise
> level.  as suggested, I played a kick drum in on channel and listened to
> a neighboring channel.  the crossover noise was faintly audible and
> in some way related to the distortion artificats of a neigbhoring channel.
> 
> for example, a long decaying kick drum would delay the onset of crossover
> signals until the sound from the designated track fell within a certain
> range of frequencies.  moreover, it only seemed to occur when the first
> track was undergoing distortion from the extreme input amplifer settings.
> 
> I should also add this thing sounds wicked crazy through a sherman
> filterbank...just ask Elvis...he appeared on my screen tonight and told me
> so.
> 
> -N
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
> 
> 



cool, that confirms what I heard too. It seems like this is a problem(?)
common to everyone, although personally I think it too quiet to worry about.
Elvis appeared to me the other day too, it freaked me out, I wonder what
triggers it?

jng[png]

I was thinking today how nice it would be if there was 
a bank of function keys where you could store different 
data for immediate call up. It could be data such as mute 
settings or effects settings. One could perhaps press 
function+drumpad to recall the settings.  This would well 
increase the sophistication of the sequencer for use in 
live performances.
    A parallel idea would to be to have a kind of function 
machine that could be programmed into the step sequencer 
like any other machine. Each time it's triggered it would 
change some set of parameters. It could perhaps even have a 
duration so that you could modulate paramaters for a couple 
beats or bars.

on another note,  I tested out my MD for the phantom noise 
on the auxilliary outputs.  Yes, it is there but it is 
hardly noticeable, and in no way does it decrease the 
utility of the instrument IMO. 

jdb

On Tue Feb 12 2002, James David Beard <jdb9s@...> wrote:

>  I was thinking today how nice it would be if there was 
> a bank of function keys where you could store different 
> data for immediate call up. It could be data such as mute 
> settings or effects settings. One could perhaps press 
> function+drumpad to recall the settings.  This would well 
> increase the sophistication of the sequencer for use in 
> live performances.

I totally agree! Then add the possibility to define which parameters
within the drumkit that the eight knobs would control, this could
either be per pattern och per kit. Instant tweaking of your eight
favourite parameters!

In song mode you can now (v 1.10 of the OS) record a mute mask for
each row in a song. Combine this with the feature of infinite loops,
and loopswitching that is mentioned (too) briefly in the manual (for
version 1.00 of the OS) on page 44.

Has anyone tried out this feature with loops in songs, especially for
live usage? How hard is it to switch between loops? From what I've
gathered from the manual, I think I'd prefer to use the 16 lower
buttons to switch between the loops.

>     A parallel idea would to be to have a kind of function 
> machine that could be programmed into the step sequencer 
> like any other machine. Each time it's triggered it would 
> change some set of parameters. It could perhaps even have a 
> duration so that you could modulate paramaters for a couple 
> beats or bars.

Hmm... what's wrong with the LFOs? 

I use them quite a lot, one neat trick is to use external audio
sources and then auto pan the with a triangle LFO.

/Janne

-- 
Janne G:son Berg, d3berg@...   http://www.dtek.chalmers.se/~d3berg
                                      .

sel a 909

  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: James David Beard 
  To: elektron-users@yahoogroups.com 
  Sent: Tuesday, February 12, 2002 6:52 PM
  Subject: [elektron] ideas+aux output noise


  I was thinking today how nice it would be if there was 
  a bank of function keys where you could store different 
  data for immediate call up. It could be data such as mute 
  settings or effects settings. One could perhaps press 
  function+drumpad to recall the settings.  This would well 
  increase the sophistication of the sequencer for use in 
  live performances.
      A parallel idea would to be to have a kind of function 
  machine that could be programmed into the step sequencer 
  like any other machine. Each time it's triggered it would 
  change some set of parameters. It could perhaps even have a 
  duration so that you could modulate paramaters for a couple 
  beats or bars.

  on another note,  I tested out my MD for the phantom noise 
  on the auxilliary outputs.  Yes, it is there but it is 
  hardly noticeable, and in no way does it decrease the 
  utility of the instrument IMO. 

  jdb


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> 
> >     A parallel idea would to be to have a kind of function 
> > machine that could be programmed into the step sequencer 
> > like any other machine. Each time it's triggered it would 
> > change some set of parameters. It could perhaps even have a 
> > duration so that you could modulate paramaters for a couple 
> > beats or bars.
> 
> Hmm... what's wrong with the LFOs? 
> 
> I use them quite a lot, one neat trick is to use external audio
> sources and then auto pan the with a triangle LFO.
> 
> /Janne

Not too much is wrong with the lfo's, except for the noises 
they can generate if the modulation is set too high, or 
that they don't go slow enough for my tastes... however,I 
don't think my idea for the "function machine" would cover 
the same ground as how the lfo's work. My focus would be to 
record changes of the global effects parameters, or 
to change mute settings using a trigger from the sequencer. 
The idea could be applied to other functions in a kind of 
mod matrix, maybe accent, swing amount, and other 
functions could be included. Some of these ideas could be 
worked around using multiple patterns and the song 
sequencer, but I think it would be cool if do these types 
of things on the fly. Shortcuts are cool and liberating.

jdb