Elektron Musical Instruments

This is all very true.

On the sidstation poster it promotes the synth as being built on the 
experience of the hacker scene.. though most of the ideas it incorporates 
were intended to be used with the original SID design anyway. The sidstation 
hardware itself is capable of so much more but at the moment i'm hoping 
updates have only been stalled because of the machine drum release.

When i bought my first sidstation I took it for granted that a multiple midi 
channel mode would be in the next os. unfortunately I'm still using it for 
leads and orchestral sounds, and i need two to get the thumping C64 beats I 
originally wanted.

As well as the points put forward by Anthony i would have liked to have seen 
like to see a memory upgrade, and possibly a sampler function (over sysex).

And again.. I wouldn't own two sidstations if i didn't like them, i still 
favor the over hardsid and my commodore because it has knobs on its 
hardware, and i don't really want the bother of carrying my computer (or my 
commodore) around.. I worry though. Has the sidstation been completely 
abandoned? I don't like the prospect of waiting another one and a half years 
just to be given another patchbank.

Steven

>From: "angrysavant" <angrysavant@...>
>Reply-To: elektron-users@yahoogroups.com
>To: elektron-users@yahoogroups.com
>Subject: [elektron] The sidstation is fucking weak -- a detailed 
>explanation.
>Date: Sun, 09 Dec 2001 02:55:42 -0000
>
>2 specific problems make the sidstation a complete piece of crap for
>any musician wanting to push sonic bounderies.
>
>1.) A slow register update speed of 4x (200hz) is, at best, lame.
>The best sounds (instruments) start at 10x speed (minimum).  Listen
>to GRG's 10x speed tracks like GRG in cyberspace and you'll
>understand why I'm bitching.
>
>2.) Addressing all 3 oscillators with a single MIDI channel is just
>stupid. I noticed someone else mentioned this would be a nice
>"feature" for Elektron to add.  From my perspective it is a
>"necessary function" that is currently missing from the OS.
>
>I find it funny that Elektron speaks about the most active hacker
>community ever in reference to the sidchip and then creates a machine
>that does nothing to expand on sid chips amazing capabilities.
>
>I just purchased 2 c64's and am using TFX player 2.8.  I can do
>register updates at 63x for pal frequencies (50hz) and that allows me
>to create some sick instruments that interact with notes being keyed
>to all three osc's.  Try that on your puny sidstation.  Of course
>it's difficult to use in a studio (the noise is more significant but
>I'm using an 8580 at 12volts [this helps]) - syncing it to anything
>useful is another story.
>
>If the creaters of the sidstation read this.  I suggest an OS update
>that allows all your users to create atleast 10x instruments.  Or is
>the sidstation limited to 4x50hz?
>
>I have to hand it to the Acme design crew - the synth is housed in a
>beatiful retro styled case.  The sidchip is a unique and beatiful
>sound source.  Hopefully this posting will prompt the Elektron crew
>to push their OS a bit and maybe I'll end up a happy sidstation
>owner.
>
>-Anthony Bisset
>


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excuse the grammar in my last post. i need sleep

>From: "Steven Henry" <pierrefighterpilot@...>
>Reply-To: elektron-users@yahoogroups.com
>To: elektron-users@yahoogroups.com
>Subject: Re: [elektron] The sidstation is fucking weak -- a detailed 
>explanation.
>Date: Sun, 09 Dec 2001 04:18:08 +0000
>
>This is all very true.
>
>On the sidstation poster it promotes the synth as being built on the
>experience of the hacker scene.. though most of the ideas it incorporates
>were intended to be used with the original SID design anyway. The 
>sidstation
>hardware itself is capable of so much more but at the moment i'm hoping
>updates have only been stalled because of the machine drum release.
>
>When i bought my first sidstation I took it for granted that a multiple 
>midi
>channel mode would be in the next os. unfortunately I'm still using it for
>leads and orchestral sounds, and i need two to get the thumping C64 beats I
>originally wanted.
>
>As well as the points put forward by Anthony i would have liked to have 
>seen
>like to see a memory upgrade, and possibly a sampler function (over sysex).
>
>And again.. I wouldn't own two sidstations if i didn't like them, i still
>favor the over hardsid and my commodore because it has knobs on its
>hardware, and i don't really want the bother of carrying my computer (or my
>commodore) around.. I worry though. Has the sidstation been completely
>abandoned? I don't like the prospect of waiting another one and a half 
>years
>just to be given another patchbank.
>
>Steven


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Hi,

First of all, let me tell you that with this attitude, you would only 
end up in my trash bin if I were a SID developer. I suggest you change 
your style.

> I'm happy you love the sidstation. I'm going to sell mine if Elektron
> doesn't update the OS to support faster register updates.

Suggestion: NEVER buy equipment that doesn't do what you want it to do 
now!  Too often, you'll be disappointed. Many companies don't live up to 
the expectations or sometimes it takes a huge time before the feature is 
implemented.

As for Elektron, I don't think they ever promised "faster register 
updates", so you can't blame them.

Saying that the SID is a "complete piece of crap" is not corect imo. I'm 
using it in every production and it's my favourite synth... even if it 
has the limitations you mention. I have some other wishes: I'd like to 
have better patch management: I'd like patches to have patch locations 
so we can more effectively manage patches with Sounddiver e.g..
Another wish: in the DC menu's I'd like to see a "0"-menu to jump from 
one DC to the other.

Bye,
Joeri

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