Elektron Musical Instruments

Don't get me wrong, I love my MD.  It just seems that a few things 
could make this the ultimate box that could revolutionize a whole new 
sound.  The programmers have done an excellent job of focusing on 
the "live playability" aspects of this machine, especially reacting 
well to user's needs in their latest OS.  I think that three things 
would make this machine ultimate.  First of all, I can't stress how 
important it is to implament slide, swing, and accent on each 
individual track.  The ability to choose which tracks to use each 
feature on would make this machine far more musical.  Secondly, two 
new machine should be added to compliment the sine wave... a square 
wave and a saw wave.  There should also be an ADSR control for all 
three waves and a tuning that shows the notes.  Actually, I guess 
that there are only two things.  If these things could be done, 
Elektron will go down in history as the greatest.  I would even get 
rid of everything else that I owned.  This has to be done.

send a message to support/contact. then perhaps they'll respond!

fwiw-- I agree.

in other news, I started using the filters and eqs more
agressively on some kits and *damn* if that doesn't open a bunch
more doors. although the filters strike my ears as thin and
whistly, used judicously with some eq'ing they can tranform the
pure electro sound of the raw machines into some very warm
musical hits. trying to get away from thinking of the MD as a
pure drum machine, and more as seq-synth-mixer-in-a-box...

: -----Original Message-----
: From: bachypham [mailto:bachypham@...]
: Sent: Wednesday, October 16, 2002 1:20 PM
: To: elektron-users@yahoogroups.com
: Subject: [elektron] Machinedrum "could" be
: revolutionary.... almost
:
:
: Don't get me wrong, I love my MD.  It just seems that
: a few things
: could make this the ultimate box that could
: revolutionize a whole new
: sound.  The programmers have done an excellent job of
: focusing on
: the "live playability" aspects of this machine,
: especially reacting
: well to user's needs in their latest OS.  I think that
: three things
: would make this machine ultimate.  First of all, I
: can't stress how
: important it is to implament slide, swing, and accent on each
: individual track.  The ability to choose which tracks
: to use each
: feature on would make this machine far more musical.
: Secondly, two
: new machine should be added to compliment the sine
: wave... a square
: wave and a saw wave.  There should also be an ADSR
: control for all
: three waves and a tuning that shows the notes.
: Actually, I guess
: that there are only two things.  If these things could
: be done,
: Elektron will go down in history as the greatest.  I
: would even get
: rid of everything else that I owned.  This has to be done.
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Has anyone tried recording sound modulations to a
whole song in their machinedrum? I know you can record
to the sequence, but to record, ala automation, to the
song itself would be just awsome. Like change the eq
to the breaks and have it recorded just the way you
like it. I think I'll try it today. Who knows!!!!!! If
not, WE NEED IT.

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I just remembered what my third idea was.  It would be incredibly, 
wonderously, magnificent if parameter locks could be made where there 
was no note being triggered.  A sine wave could be played and 
sustained while the parameters sweeped about in any tailored 
fashion... imagine the possibilities.  This would be the most 
powerful synth!!!...   If these three things could be done, I would 
even sell my sh3... maybe not.  But these three things will be all 
that I will ever ask of Elektron.  


--- In elektron-users@y..., "bachypham" <bachypham@y...> wrote:
> Don't get me wrong, I love my MD.  It just seems that a few things 
> could make this the ultimate box that could revolutionize a whole 
new 

> sound.  The programmers have done an excellent job of focusing on 
> the "live playability" aspects of this machine, especially reacting 
> well to user's needs in their latest OS.  I think that three things 
> would make this machine ultimate.  First of all, I can't stress how 
> important it is to implament slide, swing, and accent on each 
> individual track.  The ability to choose which tracks to use each 
> feature on would make this machine far more musical.  Secondly, two 
> new machine should be added to compliment the sine wave... a square 
> wave and a saw wave.  There should also be an ADSR control for all 
> three waves and a tuning that shows the notes.  Actually, I guess 
> that there are only two things.  If these things could be done, 
> Elektron will go down in history as the greatest.  I would even get 
> rid of everything else that I owned.  This has to be done.

Oh yeah... last comment.  EVERYONE!!! please contact Elektron about 
these ideas.  If enough of us do, they might consider them.  
PLEASE!!! I cannot express how important this is.  All of us fellow 
MD owners would benefit sooo much from these features.  I beg of you 
to help support my cause.  I love Elektron!!

--- In elektron-users@y..., "bachypham" <bachypham@y...> wrote:
> I just remembered what my third idea was.  It would be incredibly, 
> wonderously, magnificent if parameter locks could be made where 
there 
> was no note being triggered.  A sine wave could be played and 
> sustained while the parameters sweeped about in any tailored 
> fashion... imagine the possibilities.  This would be the most 
> powerful synth!!!...   If these three things could be done, I would 
> even sell my sh3... maybe not.  But these three things will be all 
> that I will ever ask of Elektron.  
> 
> 
> --- In elektron-users@y..., "bachypham" <bachypham@y...> wrote:
> > Don't get me wrong, I love my MD.  It just seems that a few 
things 
> > could make this the ultimate box that could revolutionize a whole 
> new 
> > sound.  The programmers have done an excellent job of focusing on 
> > the "live playability" aspects of this machine, especially 
reacting 
> > well to user's needs in their latest OS.  I think that three 
things 
> > would make this machine ultimate.  First of all, I can't stress 
how 
> > important it is to implament slide, swing, and accent on each 
> > individual track.  The ability to choose which tracks to use each 
> > feature on would make this machine far more musical.  Secondly, 
two 
> > new machine should be added to compliment the sine wave... a 
square 
> > wave and a saw wave.  There should also be an ADSR control for 
all 
> > three waves and a tuning that shows the notes.  Actually, I guess 
> > that there are only two things.  If these things could be done, 
> > Elektron will go down in history as the greatest.  I would even 
get 
> > rid of everything else that I owned.  This has to be done.

Giovedì, 17 ott 2002, alle 02:38 Europe/Rome, bachypham ha scritto:

> Oh yeah... last comment.  EVERYONE!!! please contact Elektron about
> these ideas.  If enough of us do, they might consider them.

I'm pretty sure that the guys at elektron consider every single request.

I've mailed them with my wishes and bugfixes, and they always replied 
me explaining what could/couldn't be done and why... at least, they 
told me that my wish would be considered.
There's no need to fill their email ;-)
If it CAN be done, they will.

But I think that there are some limitations for individual tracks' 
slide, accent and swing.
And the Machinedrum IS a percussion synth, maybe they don't want it to 
become a groovebox.

Yes, definitely email them...I emailed and asked for similar 
features, like the separate swing and slide...I also think that 
assignable adsr's would be great (perhaps with a "triggered by" 
and an "assigned to" parameter)...My favorite however would be 
the ability to send the LFOs to more than one destination, and to 
be able to "trigger" more than one LFO per instrument to get 
even more complex modulations..Slightly more extreme pitch 
settings might be really cool too.
 But of course I find the MD quite amazing in it's current form.
Although there is one thing I noticed in OS1.12... Has anyone 
noticed that when switching patterns (in extended mode), 
sometimes the kit won't switch to the one assigned to that 
pattern? Also, does anyone else feel that the bank buttons Don't 
"stick" for long enough?

Cheers, Jeremy

> Don't get me wrong, I love my MD.  It just seems that a few 
things 
> could make this the ultimate box that could revolutionize a 
whole new 
> sound.  The programmers have done an excellent job of 
focusing on 
> the "live playability" aspects of this machine, especially 
reacting 
> well to user's needs in their latest OS.  I think that three things 
> would make this machine ultimate.  First of all, I can't stress 
how 
> important it is to implament slide, swing, and accent on each 
> individual track.  The ability to choose which tracks to use each 
> feature on would make this machine far more musical.  
Secondly, two 
> new machine should be added to compliment the sine wave... 
a square 
> wave and a saw wave.  There should also be an ADSR control 
for all 
> three waves and a tuning that shows the notes.  Actually, I 
guess 
> that there are only two things.  If these things could be done, 
> Elektron will go down in history as the greatest.  I would even 
get 
> rid of everything else that I owned.  This has to be done.

>pattern? Also, does anyone else feel that the bank buttons Don't
>"stick" for long enough?

Yep, and ever since the introduction of the sticky bank keys I'm having 
trouble chaining patterns. I'll check the manual and try again but last time 
I did it I had to press the keys several times and all of a sudden it just 
worked where it hadn't before :)

And I'd also like a few more GND machines.

/Niklas W

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I have in the past wished that such features could be integrated
in the MD... and I'd be damn happy if they happened to.
But I'd like to stress one point :

in one of your previous mail (the one that started the topic), you 
said that if your desires were fullfilled, you'd probably get rid of 
your additional equipment, relying on the sheer power and flexibility 
of the MD. If I keep on thinking the same way, I guess you would not 
need to buy other sound generating gear further, would you ?
And this would make companies, and Elektron first, out of the 
business... unless they would get you to pay for the firmware updates.
Elektron are maybe working on some synth stuff (who knows?) that 
would fit your needs better, offer some alternate fine product from 
Elektron to people not necessarily interested in a pattern-
based "groovebox", and that would even enable Elektron to earn their 
living.
So please consider this before urging Elektron to answer your 
prayers, keep considering the "drum machine" scope and don't be that 
sure that your ideas about a definitive dream-MD are the one and only.
 
Please, no pissed-off style reply.

Xavier


--- In elektron-users@y..., "bachypham" <bachypham@y...> wrote:
> Oh yeah... last comment.  EVERYONE!!! please contact Elektron about 
> these ideas.  If enough of us do, they might consider them.  
> PLEASE!!! I cannot express how important this is.  All of us fellow 
> MD owners would benefit sooo much from these features.  I beg of 
you 
> to help support my cause.  I love Elektron!!

This is why I haven't bothered to update my machine.  I'm fine with it
as I got it.  The updates don't entice me to upgrade.  They don't seem
to be much different.  But I just got my md so what do I know.

--- In elektron-users@y..., "Niklas Winde" <Gordon_Stryph@H...> wrote:
> >pattern? Also, does anyone else feel that the bank buttons Don't
> >"stick" for long enough?
> 
> Yep, and ever since the introduction of the sticky bank keys I'm having 
> trouble chaining patterns. I'll check the manual and try again but
last time 
> I did it I had to press the keys several times and all of a sudden
it just 

> worked where it hadn't before :)
> 
> And I'd also like a few more GND machines.
> 
> /Niklas W
> 
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Well, with the updates you also get bugfixes which can be good to have.

And I requested/suggested these features and got them so I'm happy:

When changing to a unused pattern in extended Machinedrum does not change
kit.

When going from 16 to 32 pattern length, the low 16 note are copied if the
high 16 notes are unused.

/Niklas

>From: "endlessnessisticman" <endlessnessisticman@...>
>Reply-To: elektron-users@yahoogroups.com
>To: elektron-users@yahoogroups.com
>Subject: [elektron] Re: Machinedrum "could" be revolutionary.... almost
>Date: Thu, 17 Oct 2002 07:51:56 -0000
>
>This is why I haven't bothered to update my machine.  I'm fine with it
>as I got it.  The updates don't entice me to upgrade.  They don't seem
>to be much different.  But I just got my md so what do I know.
>
>--- In elektron-users@y..., "Niklas Winde" <Gordon_Stryph@H...> wrote:
> > >pattern? Also, does anyone else feel that the bank buttons Don't
> > >"stick" for long enough?
> >
> > Yep, and ever since the introduction of the sticky bank keys I'm having
> > trouble chaining patterns. I'll check the manual and try again but
>last time
> > I did it I had to press the keys several times and all of a sudden
>it just
> > worked where it hadn't before :)


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Hey Xavier
I guess the man is right. Of course that you don\ufffdt wan\ufffdt to make pads with 
the thing but implementing new waveforms wouldn\ufffdt be that hard, and it would 
give extra tones for you patterns. I\ufffdd never sell my other gear because of 
the MD because they offer other sounds and mangling possibilities than the 
MD. Now, if we\ufffdre talking about maximizing MD\ufffds potencial with a minimum of 
effort I can\ufffdt see why that can\ufffdt be done. This new OS seems much better but 
it\ufffds improvals are only on the seq dept. I think that if a product can be 
improved he has to be. I can\ufffdt imagine elektron releasing a MD2 in the near 
future. Better is to keep developing it to get new buyers.
About new products, my wishsynth would be an FS1r with some knobs and really 
intuitive UI. :) A step sequencer would be great too :P
Rui


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>Reply-To: elektron-users@yahoogroups.com
>To: elektron-users@yahoogroups.com
>Subject: [elektron] Re: Machinedrum "could" be revolutionary.... almost
>Date: Thu, 17 Oct 2002 06:50:27 -0000
>
>I have in the past wished that such features could be integrated
>in the MD... and I'd be damn happy if they happened to.
>But I'd like to stress one point :
>
>in one of your previous mail (the one that started the topic), you
>said that if your desires were fullfilled, you'd probably get rid of
>your additional equipment, relying on the sheer power and flexibility
>of the MD. If I keep on thinking the same way, I guess you would not
>need to buy other sound generating gear further, would you ?
>And this would make companies, and Elektron first, out of the
>business... unless they would get you to pay for the firmware updates.
>Elektron are maybe working on some synth stuff (who knows?) that
>would fit your needs better, offer some alternate fine product from
>Elektron to people not necessarily interested in a pattern-
>based "groovebox", and that would even enable Elektron to earn their
>living.
>So please consider this before urging Elektron to answer your
>prayers, keep considering the "drum machine" scope and don't be that
>sure that your ideas about a definitive dream-MD are the one and only.
>
>Please, no pissed-off style reply.
>
>Xavier
>
>
>--- In elektron-users@y..., "bachypham" <bachypham@y...> wrote:
> > Oh yeah... last comment.  EVERYONE!!! please contact Elektron about
> > these ideas.  If enough of us do, they might consider them.
> > PLEASE!!! I cannot express how important this is.  All of us fellow
> > MD owners would benefit sooo much from these features.  I beg of
>you
> > to help support my cause.  I love Elektron!!
>
>


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>This is why I haven't bothered to update my machine.  I'm fine with it
>as I got it.  The updates don't entice me to upgrade.  They don't seem
>to be much different.  But I just got my md so what do I know.
>


yeah you don\ufffdt know what you\ufffdre missing. The new pattern mode ios so much 
better. And it solved a bug mine had (the jog dial freezed at some 
point...). Upgrade it man. It worths the effort
Rui


>--- In elektron-users@y..., "Niklas Winde" <Gordon_Stryph@H...> wrote:
> > >pattern? Also, does anyone else feel that the bank buttons Don't
> > >"stick" for long enough?
> >
> > Yep, and ever since the introduction of the sticky bank keys I'm having
> > trouble chaining patterns. I'll check the manual and try again but
>last time
> > I did it I had to press the keys several times and all of a sudden
>it just
> > worked where it hadn't before :)
> >
> > And I'd also like a few more GND machines.
> >
> > /Niklas W
> >
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> I just remembered what my third idea was.  It would be incredibly,
> wonderously, magnificent if parameter locks could be made where there
> was no note being triggered.  A sine wave could be played and
> sustained while the parameters sweeped about in any tailored
> fashion... imagine the possibilities.  This would be the most
> powerful synth!!!...   If these three things could be done, I would
> even sell my sh3... maybe not.  But these three things will be all
> that I will ever ask of Elektron.
> 
like someone said, do it with your cc's in a sequencer,  i think your
requests are somewhat do-able with a bit a tweaking in an external
sequencer....none of them inerest me, i dont say it to slag you off, it just
seems as though everyone on this list uses their MD in very different setups
and wants different features implemented, and with limited time and manpower
to update and improve the OS, its important to tell them what we dont want
as well as what we do, As an example the one hand prgram change in the new
os is worse than the old way, for me, though im sure it was added cause
someone requested it, and for some, maybe even most, it's great, but I wish
these were global options, so we could choose.....my largest request is
still a 24 cc midi machine....i like your idea of other waveformss though,
and let me push the idea farthr...seeing as there are empty parameters in
the gnd sounds, why not make the waves multiple oscillators?

I am still hoping that Elektron implement a track 'rotate' function similar 
to the FR777...

You could press the function key + rotate track select dial at the same time 
to rotate step by step forwards or backwards.

If you haven't used rotate before, it moves all steps forwards or backwards, 
so if you had a hat sequence like:

1 . 3 .  . 6 .  .  . 10 .  . 13 .  .  .

and rotated left one step you get:

. 2 .  . 5 .  .  . 9 .  . 12 .  .  . 16

trigger one wraps around to trigger 16

anyways!

cheers
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You can do something similar, but not quite the same
by having, when editing the song, start the sequence
at different points.
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>You can do something similar, but not quite the same
>by having, when editing the song, start the sequence
>at different points.
>

Yes it's similar, but applies to the whole pattern, where I would like 
rotate to be on a track basis.

I program some sweet parameter-lock laden synth or bass lines, but they 
always end up being 3 or 4 steps off from the percussion tracks, so I have 
to manually cut and paste each step to move it a few steps forward or back 
to match.

cheers
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oh yeah, another thing i think the MD sorely lacks is slower lfo's....surely
we could lose 1/4 of the top end speeds and add this to the bottom end?
after reaching the halfway mark on speed i dont believe LFO is a proper term
for it.......though they could try and use it as a selling point 'we have
lfo's AND hfo's for modulation' ;)

> I program some sweet parameter-lock laden synth or
> bass lines, but they 
> always end up being 3 or 4 steps off from the
> percussion tracks, so I have 
> to manually cut and paste each step to move it a few
> steps forward or back 
> to match.



You can also come up with some nice "accidents" while
moving around steps back and forth.


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>oh yeah, another thing i think the MD sorely lacks is slower 
>lfo's....surely
>we could lose 1/4 of the top end speeds and add this to the bottom end?
>after reaching the halfway mark on speed i dont believe LFO is a proper 
>term
>for it.......though they could try and use it as a selling point 'we have
>lfo's AND hfo's for modulation' ;)
>

join me in in that request...
:)

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--- In elektron-users@y..., "Rui Peixoto" <rupix@h...> wrote:
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> >oh yeah, another thing i think the MD sorely lacks is slower 
> >lfo's....surely
> >we could lose 1/4 of the top end speeds and add this to the 
bottom end?
> >after reaching the halfway mark on speed i dont believe LFO 
is a proper 
> >term
> >for it.......though they could try and use it as a selling point
'we 
have
> >lfo's AND hfo's for modulation' ;)
> >
> 
> join me in in that request...
> :)
>

Slower   lfo's,
hell yeah, i'm up for that they're too fast even at the slowest 
speed i think. 
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--- In elektron-users@y..., "ripe ...." <ripe@s...> wrote:
> I am still hoping that Elektron implement a track 'rotate' function 
similar 
> to the FR777...
> 
> You could press the function key + rotate track select dial at the 
same time 
> to rotate step by step forwards or backwards.
> 
> If you haven't used rotate before, it moves all steps forwards or 
backwards, 
> so if you had a hat sequence like:
> 
> 1 . 3 .  . 6 .  .  . 10 .  . 13 .  .  .
> 
> and rotated left one step you get:
> 
> . 2 .  . 5 .  .  . 9 .  . 12 .  .  . 16
> 
> trigger one wraps around to trigger 16
> 
> anyways!
> 
> cheers
> ripe
> 
> 
> 

can you not already do this by pressing 'function' and then the 
left/cursor keys when in record mode? 
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>can you not already do this by pressing 'function' and then the left/cursor 
>keys when in record mode?

woohoo! you are right!

I searched the manual and found this...

pg. 40

\ufffd In grid composing mode, pressing keys [LEFT] and [RIGHT] while
holding [FUNCTION] will rotate the pattern.

thanks!
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>From: "buzzard2uk" <nosebleed@...>
>Reply-To: elektron-users@yahoogroups.com
>To: elektron-users@yahoogroups.com
>Subject: [elektron] Re: Machinedrum "could" be revolutionary.... almost
>Date: Thu, 17 Oct 2002 16:42:49 -0000
>
>--- In elektron-users@y..., "ripe ...." <ripe@s...> wrote:
> > I am still hoping that Elektron implement a track 'rotate' function
>similar
> > to the FR777...
> >
> > You could press the function key + rotate track select dial at the
>same time
> > to rotate step by step forwards or backwards.
> >
> > If you haven't used rotate before, it moves all steps forwards or
>backwards,
> > so if you had a hat sequence like:
> >
> > 1 . 3 .  . 6 .  .  . 10 .  . 13 .  .  .
> >
> > and rotated left one step you get:
> >
> > . 2 .  . 5 .  .  . 9 .  . 12 .  .  . 16
> >
> > trigger one wraps around to trigger 16
> >
> > anyways!
> >
> > cheers
> > ripe
> >
> >
> >
>
>can you not already do this by pressing 'function' and then the
>left/cursor keys when in record mode?
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bachypham wrote:
> would make this machine ultimate.  First of all, I can't stress how 
> important it is to implament slide, swing, and accent on each 

accent you can do with parameter locks on the volume.
or is there another way you have in mind?


> feature on would make this machine far more musical.  Secondly, two 
> new machine should be added to compliment the sine wave... a square 
> wave and a saw wave.  

try DISTorting your sine! you might get a square wave?


> There should also be an ADSR control for all 

a TRIGgered LFO on the volume = attack envelope.  




> three waves and a tuning that shows the notes.  

Ah!  You need to see this!  

http://www.gweep.net/~shifty/machinedrum/



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On Thu, Oct 17, 2002 at 04:07:06PM +0100, mizatch wrote:
> oh yeah, another thing i think the MD sorely lacks is slower lfo's....surely

wow, I guess there finally IS at least one other person 
besides me who feels this way :) (hug) ((what??))

anyway, here's a trick I thought up that improves it for me:

what you do is use a 2nd LFO to modulate the speed of the first one---
if you use a really small depth, then you can make the LFO freq oscillate
b/t 0 and 1 and that makes it very slow, and also unsyncs it!
I love unsynced LFO's :)

Actually if you listen really closely, it's not really unsynced, but
syncing to a complex waveform that you don't pick up on as easily...

If you REALLY want a loose LFO sound, you have to do one of two things:
1) use a 3rd LFO to modulate the 2nd one that modulates the main one.  
2) Or you can use a 3rd LFO and add its output and the 2nd LFO to
the first LFO's frequency.

also, if you make some meta-modulators TRIGgered and some FREE you
can get less predictable modulation, especially when you break
up your patterns in the seq. editor...

-N


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>> oh yeah, another thing i think the MD sorely lacks is slower
>> lfo's....surely
>> we could lose 1/4 of the top end speeds and add this to the bottom 
>> end?
>> after reaching the halfway mark on speed i dont believe LFO is a 
>> proper
>> term
>> for it.......though they could try and use it as a selling point 'we 
>> have
>> lfo's AND hfo's for modulation' ;)
>>
>
> join me in in that request...
> :)
>

I had already asked this, but elektron replied that changing the lfo 
speed would modify any current kit in our MD.
Anyway, there's speed=0 which is unused, and it could be.

but surely if they did it to a formula all us anoraks could simply do the
math and fix our kits after the fact?  or the machines could be adjusted
accordingly by the os?  This really doesnt bother me that much, i can see it
being a hassle, but the payoff would be worth it...how about a page in
global with old and new lfo speeds?   just throwing out ideas......it seems
as though most on the list would like the lfo's slower...i will write them
about this, though i guess they must pay attention to the list as well......

> I had already asked this, but elektron replied that changing the lfo
> speed would modify any current kit in our MD.
> Anyway, there's speed=0 which is unused, and it could be.

> how about a page in
> global with old and new lfo speeds?   just throwing out 
> ideas......

sounds like a good one to me... "lfo slowdown factor 1/16, 1/8, 1/4, 
1/2" or something like that. 

> it seems as though most on the list would like the lfo's slower

oh YES, count me in on that one. 32 or 64 bar modulation cycles would 
rock !

kenny

while i'm not sure on more recent OSes, this functionality was 
addressed in Future Music's review of the sps-1:

http://www.futuremusic.co.uk/fm_gear.asp?ID=1701&PageNo=5

(so as far as i know, it is not possible to record locks to a whole 
song, only for a pattern at a time ... which disapointed me as it 
would be really fun to program out knob-performances over entire 
songs!)

j.h0rD.n

--- In elektron-users@y..., Flavio Alvarez <srminimo@y...> wrote:

> Has anyone tried recording sound modulations to a
> whole song in their machinedrum? I know you can record
> to the sequence, but to record, ala automation, to the
> song itself would be just awsome. Like change the eq
> to the breaks and have it recorded just the way you
> like it. I think I'll try it today. Who knows!!!!!! If
> not, WE NEED IT.
> 
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