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machinedrum external control

2002-10-19 by falabala66

Hello humans.....
   I'm using a machinedrum right now on it's own, but am soon to 
be aquiring an akai MPC, from which I'll sequence the MD.
What I'm wondering is how well the MD functions in this regard. 
First off, how does it react to velocity? I didn't even see it 
mentioned on the MIDI implementation chart--Does it respond at 
all?
   Secondly, How does the MD channelize note on information? I 
notice it's split the 16 parts over 4 midi channels......Does that 
mean I couldn't trigger machines 1 and, say machine 12 from 
the same sequencer track, or does the MD split the incoming 
data? I'm hoping to be able to play the entire kit from the pads 
and record it to one track..... is this possible?
    I'm interested in hearing of peoples experiences in controlling 
the machinedrum from external sequencers ....Let me know how 
it works for you!......
  Toodles, Jeremy

Re: machinedrum external control

2002-10-19 by endlessnessisticman

I got an mpc2k.  There is no velocity on the md so the pads don't
really matter.  But you can trigger all the md tracks.  The mpc can
accept more than four channels.  But you have to program the mpc so
you can trigger the md with the 16 pads on the same level.  The mpc
has four levels of pads right?  I think if you pressed "open window"
while highlighting the track on the mpc will give you a window where
you can determine the midi recieve.  I think the default is 'all'? 
But using the md on the mpc you lose the extended mode's important
parameter lock function.  I would just clock external to the mpc and
use the mpc for your samples.  Or better yet sample your md loops and
load it on the mpc.  What mpc are you getting? 60, 60II, 3000, 2000,
2000xl, "the one and only powerhouse beat sampler" 4000(@3000$)?
--- In elektron-users@y..., "falabala66" <Falabala66@a...> wrote:
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> Hello humans.....
>    I'm using a machinedrum right now on it's own, but am soon to 
> be aquiring an akai MPC, from which I'll sequence the MD.
> What I'm wondering is how well the MD functions in this regard. 
> First off, how does it react to velocity? I didn't even see it 
> mentioned on the MIDI implementation chart--Does it respond at 
> all?
>    Secondly, How does the MD channelize note on information? I 
> notice it's split the 16 parts over 4 midi channels......Does that 
> mean I couldn't trigger machines 1 and, say machine 12 from 
> the same sequencer track, or does the MD split the incoming 
> data? I'm hoping to be able to play the entire kit from the pads 
> and record it to one track..... is this possible?
>     I'm interested in hearing of peoples experiences in controlling 
> the machinedrum from external sequencers ....Let me know how 
> it works for you!......
>   Toodles, Jeremy

Re: machinedrum external control

2002-10-19 by Andrew Denyes

--- In elektron-users@y..., "falabala66" <Falabala66@a...> wrote:
> First off, how does it react to velocity? I didn't even see it 
> mentioned on the MIDI implementation chart--Does it respond at 
> all?
The velocity of a note affects its volume, on the MD. I often use
notes with velocity 1 to "choke" off a playing sound.

>    Secondly, How does the MD channelize note on information? I 
It sends all note information on its base channel. The only reason it
receives information on 4 channels is so you can transmit controller
data to all the MDs instruments using standard CCs. You can trigger
any note on it from any of those 4 channels, as well.

>     I'm interested in hearing of peoples experiences in controlling 
> the machinedrum from external sequencers ....Let me know how 
> it works for you!......
My only problem was that when the MD received a program change, it
would modify the drum kit of whatever pattern it happened to be on.
With the new OS 1.12, I can switch prg chg off and also see which
patterns are "empty" so I can change prg all over them and not worry
about messing up something I was doing in the MD sequencer. Elektron
are my heroes.

Re: machinedrum external control

2002-10-19 by falabala66

>"the one and only powerhouse beat sampler" 4000

Hahaha..Yeah that's the one....Found it on Ebay rather cheaply 
(comparatively)..
I must admit I'm kind of disappointed the MD doesn't react AT 
ALL to velocity....The parameter Locks thing doesn't bother me 
too much (I can just record the knobs, or use the 4000's super 
duper "step sequence modulators"), but velocity is an important 
performance control to me.....I'm finding grid sequencing doesn't 
really capture the funky Looseness I want in my sequences 
these days..Hopefully at some point velocity will be implemented 
(another one for the wish list).....
  I suppose until then I will use some type of hardware midi 
proccesor to convert velocity to the relevant midi controller 
number......

Cheers and thanks alot for the Info, Jeremy

Re: machinedrum external control

2002-10-19 by falabala66

--- In elektron-users@y..., "Andrew Denyes" <andr00@e...> 
wrote:
> --- In elektron-users@y..., "falabala66" <Falabala66@a...> 
wrote:
> > First off, how does it react to velocity? I didn't even see it 
> > mentioned on the MIDI implementation chart--Does it 
respond at 
> > all?
> The velocity of a note affects its volume, on the MD. I often use
> notes with velocity 1 to "choke" off a playing sound.
> 
ACHA! so it DOES react to velocity....That'd be GOOD news! Now 
only if you could assign Velocity to different parameters.....
Thanks alot for explaining the channel behaviour of the MD, it 
makes loads more sense now.....
Cheers,Jeremy

Re: machinedrum external control

2002-10-19 by falabala66

>"the one and only powerhouse beat sampler" 4000

Hahaha..Yeah that's the one....Found it on Ebay rather cheaply 
(comparatively)..
I must admit I'm kind of disappointed the MD doesn't react AT 
ALL to velocity....The parameter Locks thing doesn't bother me 
too much (I can just record the knobs, or use the 4000's super 
duper "step sequence modulators"), but velocity is an important 
performance control to me.....I'm finding grid sequencing doesn't 
really capture the funky Looseness I want in my sequences 
these days..Hopefully at some point velocity will be implemented 
(another one for the wish list).....
  I suppose until then I will use some type of hardware midi 
proccesor to convert velocity to the relevant midi controller 
number......

Cheers and thanks alot for the Info, Jeremy

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