Elektron Musical Instruments

Speak & Spell's are just sample based. If you are talking about the speech
synthesis, I doubt the monomachine will be anywhere close. The regular beeps
of the S&S are themselves not too easy to produce (high tone + SSR +
distortion) but they're not too interesting either.

   Now the link you've sent is actually pointing to a 'bended' or modified
speak and spell... what those guy do is to connect parts of the IC that are
not meant to be connected and therefore fucks up the way it plays the voice
samples. Hence the kind of sound you hear.. but I doubt the monomachine will
sound like that at all, it is very particular to that machine.

Cheers,

M-.-n

http://n0s.10pm.org


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From: "voicestatus" <aesluis@...>
To: <elektron-users@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Sunday, July 13, 2003 3:47 PM
Subject: [elektron] Speak & Spells.


> Greetings,
>
> Is there a possibility that the new MonoMachine have some kind
> of sound synthesis like the Speak & Spell machines???
>
> For those who don't know these sound 'toys' here is a link:
>
> http://www.alien-devices.com/speak.html
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
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>

le 13/07/2003 21:02, M-.-n à nostromo@... a écrit :

> 
> Speak & Spell's are just sample based. If you are talking about the speech
> synthesis, I doubt the monomachine will be anywhere close. The regular beeps
> of the S&S are themselves not too easy to produce (high tone + SSR +
> distortion) but they're not too interesting either.

It gets boring if you have only that, but to produce something in the same
tones, you'd need formants (small band pass filters) loads of envelopesŠ

You're better with an additive synth (soft or his majesty Kawai K5000) or
maybe a FS1R. But it's easier with a bended S&S ;)

Some bit reduction to squash the remains is good %)
 
> Now the link you've sent is actually pointing to a 'bended' or modified
> speak and spell... what those guy do is to connect parts of the IC that are
> not meant to be connected and therefore fucks up the way it plays the voice
> samples. Hence the kind of sound you hear.. but I doubt the monomachine will
> sound like that at all, it is very particular to that machine.

You can in the digital distort fashion, but the pure mutations of voices are
out of reach for the reason addressed before

And it's good to have impossibilities, you need to overcome them and try
something NEW B)
 
> M-.-n

Hi you ;)

Denis U]

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> Some bit reduction to squash the remains is good %)

Does anyone know a program with a good bit reduction facility? 
SoundForge only goes down to 8 bit!

maybe check this sonicstate article

http://www.sonicstate.com/news/shownews.cfm?newsid=1042


----- Original Message -----
From: "M-.-n" <nostromo@...>
To: <elektron-users@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Sunday, July 13, 2003 8:02 PM
Subject: Re: [elektron] Speak & Spells.


>
> Speak & Spell's are just sample based. If you are talking about the speech
> synthesis, I doubt the monomachine will be anywhere close. The regular
beeps
> of the S&S are themselves not too easy to produce (high tone + SSR +
> distortion) but they're not too interesting either.
>
>    Now the link you've sent is actually pointing to a 'bended' or modified
> speak and spell... what those guy do is to connect parts of the IC that
are
> not meant to be connected and therefore fucks up the way it plays the
voice
> samples. Hence the kind of sound you hear.. but I doubt the monomachine
will
> sound like that at all, it is very particular to that machine.
>
> Cheers,
>
> M-.-n
>
> http://n0s.10pm.org
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "voicestatus" <aesluis@...>
> To: <elektron-users@yahoogroups.com>
> Sent: Sunday, July 13, 2003 3:47 PM
> Subject: [elektron] Speak & Spells.
>
>
> > Greetings,
> >
> > Is there a possibility that the new MonoMachine have some kind
> > of sound synthesis like the Speak & Spell machines???
> >
> > For those who don't know these sound 'toys' here is a link:
> >
> > http://www.alien-devices.com/speak.html
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to
http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/

> >
> >
>
>
>
>
>
> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
>

--- In elektron-users@yahoogroups.com, "M-.-n" 
<nostromo@a...> wrote:
> 
> Speak & Spell's are just sample based. If you are talking about 
the speech
> synthesis, I doubt the monomachine will be anywhere close. 
The regular beeps
> of the S&S are themselves not too easy to produce (high tone + 
SSR +
> distortion) but they're not too interesting either.

If I listen to the album Computerworld from Kraftwerk I have to 
conclude that I like it, so for me it could be interesting.

There are some more details on this link:

http://www.ti.com/corp/docs/company/history/pmos.shtml

So if the hardware from the MonoMachine is the same as the 
MachineDrum it will have memory for samples like the E12 
Machines so it is possible in some way? And you could trigger 
the phonemes on the keyboard or something like that.

Still not interesting and of what else must I think of the 
voice-machine?

> 
>    Now the link you've sent is actually pointing to a 'bended' or 
modified
> speak and spell... what those guy do is to connect parts of the 
IC that are
> not meant to be connected and therefore fucks up the way it 
plays the voice
> samples. Hence the kind of sound you hear.. but I doubt the 
monomachine will
> sound like that at all, it is very particular to that machine.
> 
> Cheers,
> 
> M-.-n
> 
> http://n0s.10pm.org
> 
> 
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "voicestatus" <aesluis@h...>
> To: <elektron-users@yahoogroups.com>
> Sent: Sunday, July 13, 2003 3:47 PM
> Subject: [elektron] Speak & Spells.
> 
> 
> > Greetings,
> >
> > Is there a possibility that the new MonoMachine have some 
kind
> > of sound synthesis like the Speak & Spell machines???
> >
> > For those who don't know these sound 'toys' here is a link:
> >
> > http://www.alien-devices.com/speak.html
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to 
http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
> >
> >

hi

i agree, with Earthman your better off with S&S and maybe some formant
filters.

I've used the Fs1r extensively and its difficult to see where your going
from A to B.  Whereas with samples at least you have a starting point.

Also the Fs1r excels at silky choirs and ethereal voices rather than
something that has a earthy human texture

----- Original Message -----
From: "I've got a LASER, Earthman!" <lepetitmartien@...>
To: <elektron-users@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Sunday, July 13, 2003 8:11 PM
Subject: Re: [elektron] Speak & Spells.


le 13/07/2003 21:02, M-.-n \ufffd nostromo@... a \ufffdcrit :

>
> Speak & Spell's are just sample based. If you are talking about the speech
> synthesis, I doubt the monomachine will be anywhere close. The regular
beeps
> of the S&S are themselves not too easy to produce (high tone + SSR +
> distortion) but they're not too interesting either.

It gets boring if you have only that, but to produce something in the same
tones, you'd need formants (small band pass filters) loads of envelopesS

You're better with an additive synth (soft or his majesty Kawai K5000) or
maybe a FS1R. But it's easier with a bended S&S ;)

Some bit reduction to squash the remains is good %)

> Now the link you've sent is actually pointing to a 'bended' or modified
> speak and spell... what those guy do is to connect parts of the IC that
are
> not meant to be connected and therefore fucks up the way it plays the
voice
> samples. Hence the kind of sound you hear.. but I doubt the monomachine
will
> sound like that at all, it is very particular to that machine.

You can in the digital distort fashion, but the pure mutations of voices are
out of reach for the reason addressed before

And it's good to have impossibilities, you need to overcome them and try
something NEW B)

> M-.-n

Hi you ;)

Denis U]

================================================
lepetitmartien           M.I.C.                http://www.macmusic.org





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one more thing...

this maybe the future

http://www.sospubs.co.uk/soundbank/1.asp#vocaloid

the Yamaha Vocaloid

----- Original Message -----
From: "I've got a LASER, Earthman!" <lepetitmartien@...>
To: <elektron-users@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Sunday, July 13, 2003 8:11 PM
Subject: Re: [elektron] Speak & Spells.


le 13/07/2003 21:02, M-.-n \ufffd nostromo@... a \ufffdcrit :

>
> Speak & Spell's are just sample based. If you are talking about the speech
> synthesis, I doubt the monomachine will be anywhere close. The regular
beeps
> of the S&S are themselves not too easy to produce (high tone + SSR +
> distortion) but they're not too interesting either.

It gets boring if you have only that, but to produce something in the same
tones, you'd need formants (small band pass filters) loads of envelopesS

You're better with an additive synth (soft or his majesty Kawai K5000) or
maybe a FS1R. But it's easier with a bended S&S ;)

Some bit reduction to squash the remains is good %)

> Now the link you've sent is actually pointing to a 'bended' or modified
> speak and spell... what those guy do is to connect parts of the IC that
are
> not meant to be connected and therefore fucks up the way it plays the
voice
> samples. Hence the kind of sound you hear.. but I doubt the monomachine
will
> sound like that at all, it is very particular to that machine.

You can in the digital distort fashion, but the pure mutations of voices are
out of reach for the reason addressed before

And it's good to have impossibilities, you need to overcome them and try
something NEW B)

> M-.-n

Hi you ;)

Denis U]

================================================
lepetitmartien           M.I.C.                http://www.macmusic.org





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I would think, if you made it simple enough, you would only need a few
filters if you are taking a speech production route.  Maybe 4 or 5
points for vowel production in the forms of tubes.  Each would be
different sized filters of course.  Then an overall vocal tube size
parameter to determine things like female and male voice.  I would
assume it is more of a vowel producer than something that sings.  Or
else it's a different kind of vocoder.  I wouldn't think it would be a
sampler.  

It would be cool to be able to make those kind of double voiced monk
meditating sounds. 

--- In elektron-users@yahoogroups.com, "Raj" <rajah_patel@y...> wrote:
> one more thing...
> 
> this maybe the future
> 
> http://www.sospubs.co.uk/soundbank/1.asp#vocaloid
> 
> the Yamaha Vocaloid
> 
> 
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "I've got a LASER, Earthman!" <lepetitmartien@m...>
> To: <elektron-users@yahoogroups.com>
> Sent: Sunday, July 13, 2003 8:11 PM
> Subject: Re: [elektron] Speak & Spells.
> 
> 
> le 13/07/2003 21:02, M-.-n à nostromo@a... a écrit :
> 
> >
> > Speak & Spell's are just sample based. If you are talking about
the speech
> > synthesis, I doubt the monomachine will be anywhere close. The regular
> beeps
> > of the S&S are themselves not too easy to produce (high tone + SSR +
> > distortion) but they're not too interesting either.
> 
> It gets boring if you have only that, but to produce something in
the same
> tones, you'd need formants (small band pass filters) loads of envelopesS
> 
> You're better with an additive synth (soft or his majesty Kawai
K5000) or
> maybe a FS1R. But it's easier with a bended S&S ;)
> 
> Some bit reduction to squash the remains is good %)
> 
> > Now the link you've sent is actually pointing to a 'bended' or
modified
> > speak and spell... what those guy do is to connect parts of the IC
that
> are
> > not meant to be connected and therefore fucks up the way it plays the
> voice
> > samples. Hence the kind of sound you hear.. but I doubt the
monomachine
> will
> > sound like that at all, it is very particular to that machine.
> 
> You can in the digital distort fashion, but the pure mutations of
voices are
> out of reach for the reason addressed before
> 
> And it's good to have impossibilities, you need to overcome them and try
> something NEW B)
> 
> > M-.-n
> 
> Hi you ;)
> 
> Denis U]
> 
> ================================================
> lepetitmartien           M.I.C.                http://www.macmusic.org
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to
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Talking about bended toys... another classic target for mods is the serie of
casio toy keyboard...I have a SA-1 and, though it is not bended, I
discovered that just before the batterie died, the keyboard start playing
some very peculiar stuff... like it decide to do electronica on its own ;-)

For ne-one interested, here's a small sample:

http://www.superphaser.net/temp/sa1.mp3

Cheers,
M-.-n

http://n0s.10pm.org