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Monomachine Multi-Trig Split Mode: bug or feature?

Monomachine Multi-Trig Split Mode: bug or feature?

2003-12-20 by Joe

Ok. I admit that I haven't really messed with multi-trig mode all that
much.  There's too many other things to explore!  But the few times
that I have, I've been inclined to use split mode.  However, I don't
quite understand the manual's explanation of how it's supposed to
work/what it's supposed to do.

From my understanding, splitting the keyboard just means that one zone
(say, below the split point) plays one sound and the other (above the
split point) plays another.  But on the MnM you only select one track
when setting it up (and you can only select from FIVE tracks (NOT
6!)).  This leads me to think that it's supposed to play the selected
track after the split point and something else (which the manual
doesn't state what that would be) before.

Ok. So when I select split point "A-4" and track 4, I get the
following results:
1) playing below A-4 plays all unmuted tracks (just like "ALL TRK" 
   mode)
2) playing A-4 and above plays track 5 (NOT track 4!)

Is it just me, or does this not seem right?  For one, I would think
the user would want to select which TWO tracks are to go above/below
the split point.  This is how my Nord works, for example.  And two,
why does choosing track 4 make track 5 the triggered track above the
split point?  And finally, why can we only choose up to 5 tracks
instead of six?

Am I greatly misunderstanding this feature, not using it correctly or
is there just a major bug?

Joe.

Re: Monomachine Multi-Trig Split Mode: bug or feature?

2003-12-22 by daniel_elektron

--- In elektron-users@yahoogroups.com, "Joe" <jmelnyk@c...> wrote:

> From my understanding, splitting the keyboard just means that one 
zone
> (say, below the split point) plays one sound and the other (above 
the
> split point) plays another.  But on the MnM you only select one 
track
> when setting it up (and you can only select from FIVE tracks (NOT
> 6!)).  This leads me to think that it's supposed to play the 
selected
> track after the split point and something else (which the manual
> doesn't state what that would be) before.

It's displayed the wrong way now I see. Setting it to "2" should have 
track 1 go to the lower half, and 2,3,4,5,6 go to the upper. What is 
printed "1" now will be printed "2" in the next update.

> For one, I would think
> the user would want to select which TWO tracks are to go above/below
> the split point.  This is how my Nord works, for example.

The way we thought is that you are allowed to layer how many tracks 
you want in the split mode (because it's a "multi trig" mode). Then 
set the rest you do not care for to zero level, or GND->GND.

Maybe you'd preferred it to function another way? I can see the issue 
if you are using the sequencer, and just want to trigger two sounds 
in split mode, and not affect the other tracks.

Daniel

Re: Monomachine Multi-Trig Split Mode: bug or feature?

2003-12-23 by Joe

--- In elektron-users@yahoogroups.com, "daniel_elektron" <daniel@e...>
wrote:
> The way we thought is that you are allowed to layer how many tracks 
> you want in the split mode (because it's a "multi trig" mode). Then 
> set the rest you do not care for to zero level, or GND->GND.

ok. I think I get how its supposed to work. the split point just
splits the tracks into two sections: those above and those below. the
ones who are less-then or equal-to the chosen track number are played
by notes below the split point. those who are greater-than the track
number are played by notes who are equal-than or greater-to the split
point.

> Maybe you'd preferred it to function another way? I can see the 
> issue 
> if you are using the sequencer, and just want to trigger two sounds 
> in split mode, and not affect the other tracks.

that's exactly how I want it to work! I want to be able to play two
different tracks when I use the keyboard - one track above the split
point and one below it. and I want to be able to play these two tracks
now matter what the actively selected track is. and this should be
done while the sequencer is running and trigging the other tracks
(thus they can't be muted at the time).

failing this, I'd like to be able to choose one track to be played by
the keyboard regardless of which track is active. currently, this
can't be done (without muting tracks; and that can't work because I'm
having the sequencer trig those tracks). BUT if you allow the track
split number to go down to one than this can be accomplished by:
mapping the track to be trigged to track one, choosing track one as
the split track and setting the split point to be the uppermost note.

but really, I think it would be nice to have split mode play one track
above and one track below the split point. isn't that how synths
normally treat keyboard splitting? would it be possible to add such a
split mode and then change the name of the current split mode to
"multi split"? both are useful, but I would imagine that the former is
useful more often than the latter. what do the other MnM users think?

Thanks for the reply, Daniel!

Joe.

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