Elektron Musical Instruments

then you have to ask the question: just because it something may be
technically possible, why should Elektron do it (for free)?


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Rui Peixoto" <rupix@...>
To: <elektron-users@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Thursday, February 05, 2004 8:21 AM
Subject: [elektron] 2 OS suggestion


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>
>
> Hi there!
> I don\ufffdt know why the 2 OS suggestion seemed to freak so many of you out
> there. I mean I\ufffdd understand if someone from elektron showed up saying
that
> it is not possible due to technical reasons of some sort, and for sure we
> had to respect them. But I just can\ufffdt understand you guys. I mean, I
clearly
> respect your ideas of wanting to keep the MD as it is atm, and keep your
> kits and such, BUT you should also try to respect and understand those
that

> would like to see some changes in the sound, specially if they are
> relatively easy to implement. The 2 OS suggestion is really because of you
> guys feeling intimidated by an extra "switch" knob somewhere in a hidden
> menu. It\ufffdd also save memory. You guys could choose which one to d/l and
> install. But so could we.
> Sorry for the rant but it all comes down to not tolerate intolerance.
>
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Hmmm... We want to supply our products and make things better if we 
have good ideas, and can do it without other stuff suffering. We are 
not so many people, and we need to spend our time also making new 
products in order to survive.

And don't expect it is possible to do something in the Machinedrum, 
just because we made it on the Monomachine. The Machinedrum has 12 
more tracks, and thus less cycles to spend per track. The signal 
flow is also highly optimised for each unit, so it's not just copy-
paste. 

But it's interesting to hear all the wishes. Just compile them and 
get them to us, and we'll take the decision what to do. Some might 
make it into the Machinedrum, and some might influence how we think 
for future products.

Daniel

--- In elektron-users@yahoogroups.com, "Ravi Ivan Sharma" 
<noision1@h...> wrote:
> then you have to ask the question: just because it something may be
> technically possible, why should Elektron do it (for free)?
> 
> 
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Rui Peixoto" <rupix@h...>
> To: <elektron-users@yahoogroups.com>
> Sent: Thursday, February 05, 2004 8:21 AM
> Subject: [elektron] 2 OS suggestion
> 
> 
> > Hi there!
> > I don´t know why the 2 OS suggestion seemed to freak so many of 
you out
> > there. I mean I´d understand if someone from elektron showed up 
saying
> that
> > it is not possible due to technical reasons of some sort, and 
for sure we
> > had to respect them. But I just can´t understand you guys. I 
mean, I
> clearly
> > respect your ideas of wanting to keep the MD as it is atm, and 
keep your
> > kits and such, BUT you should also try to respect and understand 
those
> that
> > would like to see some changes in the sound, specially if they 
are
> > relatively easy to implement. The 2 OS suggestion is really 
because of you
> > guys feeling intimidated by an extra "switch" knob somewhere in 
a hidden
> > menu. It´d also save memory. You guys could choose which one to 
d/l and
> > install. But so could we.
> > Sorry for the rant but it all comes down to not tolerate 
intolerance.

I totaly agree with Daniel, if they did all of these
changes to the machinedrum then they might as well
sell it as a different unit. :) 

My only request is to have a couple of more machines
that could produce more electro noise for the
machinedrum. If this doesn't happen that's ok cause I
still have some other toys to do this with :) 


--- daniel_elektron <daniel@...> wrote:
> 
> Hmmm... We want to supply our products and make
> things better if we 
> have good ideas, and can do it without other stuff
> suffering. We are 
> not so many people, and we need to spend our time
> also making new 
> products in order to survive.
> 
> And don't expect it is possible to do something in
> the Machinedrum, 
> just because we made it on the Monomachine. The
> Machinedrum has 12 
> more tracks, and thus less cycles to spend per
> track. The signal 
> flow is also highly optimised for each unit, so it's
> not just copy-
> paste. 
> 
> But it's interesting to hear all the wishes. Just
> compile them and 
> get them to us, and we'll take the decision what to
> do. Some might 
> make it into the Machinedrum, and some might
> influence how we think 
> for future products.
> 
> Daniel
> 
> --- In elektron-users@yahoogroups.com, "Ravi Ivan
> Sharma" 
> <noision1@h...> wrote:
> > then you have to ask the question: just because it
> something may be
> > technically possible, why should Elektron do it
> (for free)?
> > 
> > 
> > ----- Original Message ----- 
> > From: "Rui Peixoto" <rupix@h...>
> > To: <elektron-users@yahoogroups.com>
> > Sent: Thursday, February 05, 2004 8:21 AM
> > Subject: [elektron] 2 OS suggestion
> > 
> > 
> > > Hi there!
> > > I don\ufffdt know why the 2 OS suggestion seemed to
> freak so many of 
> you out
> > > there. I mean I\ufffdd understand if someone from
> elektron showed up 
> saying
> > that
> > > it is not possible due to technical reasons of
> some sort, and 
> for sure we
> > > had to respect them. But I just can\ufffdt understand
> you guys. I 
> mean, I
> > clearly
> > > respect your ideas of wanting to keep the MD as
> it is atm, and 
> keep your
> > > kits and such, BUT you should also try to
> respect and understand 
> those
> > that
> > > would like to see some changes in the sound,
> specially if they 
> are
> > > relatively easy to implement. The 2 OS
> suggestion is really 
> because of you
> > > guys feeling intimidated by an extra "switch"
> knob somewhere in 
> a hidden
> > > menu. It\ufffdd also save memory. You guys could
> choose which one to 
> d/l and
> > > install. But so could we.
> > > Sorry for the rant but it all comes down to not
> tolerate 
> intolerance.
> 
> 
> 


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and some might
> > influence how we think 
> > for future products.
> > 
> > Daniel
> > 
>

future products ?

a elektron style sampler please ;)

--- In elektron-users@yahoogroups.com, "Ravi Ivan Sharma" 
<noision1@h...> wrote:
> then you have to ask the question: just because it something may be
> technically possible, why should Elektron do it (for free)?

simple. To improve the instrument. There´s still a lot of potential 
MD buyers around. Imagine what a goot bit rate reducing algo would 
appeal to the 1000´s of hip hoppers around... this thinking 
economics. Thinking that elektron cleary shows that likes to make 
state of the art instruments, I´d do it just for the pleasure of 
improving my own creation. But hey, that´s me. 

plus, I´m not sure if the work is that much.

--- In elektron-users@yahoogroups.com, "daniel_elektron" 
<daniel@e...> wrote:
> 
> Hmmm... We want to supply our products and make things better if we 
> have good ideas, and can do it without other stuff suffering. We 
are 
> not so many people, and we need to spend our time also making new 
> products in order to survive.
> 
> And don't expect it is possible to do something in the Machinedrum, 
> just because we made it on the Monomachine. The Machinedrum has 12 
> more tracks, and thus less cycles to spend per track. The signal 
> flow is also highly optimised for each unit, so it's not just copy-
> paste. 

OK, didn´t know that. The effort you guys are doing to update the MD 
is great by itself, and we thank you guys for that (I suppose I can 
speak for all)
Thanks for listening to us and keep up the good work!

The only things I really miss from the MD are the awesome bussing scheme like on the MnM, which makes internal feedback loops possible in combination with EFX machines...                 cheers, ripe

On Feb 5, 2004, at 1:39 PM, pixfodase wrote:

> simple. To improve the instrument. There´s still a lot of potential
> MD buyers around. Imagine what a goot bit rate reducing algo would
> appeal to the 1000´s of hip hoppers around... this thinking

Just to add to this, I own a MD and would gladly pay for an OS update 
that gives me BRR instead of SRR.  Different distortion algo would be 
nice too, and saving routing options with kits, and LFO tempo sync, and 
etc...

I'm sure others would pay too.

Also, I'd be ok with a switch in the config to jump between OS versions 
although I'd prefer if they just use the (IMHO) unused Classic/Extended 
mode button on the MD.  I was in Classic mode once by accident the 
first day I had the MD, it's been completely useless to me.

c.

--- In elektron-users@yahoogroups.com, "pixfodase" <rupix@h...> wrote:
> --- In elektron-users@yahoogroups.com, "Ravi Ivan Sharma" 
> <noision1@h...> wrote:
> > then you have to ask the question: just because it something may 
be
> > technically possible, why should Elektron do it (for free)?
> 
> simple. To improve the instrument. There´s still a lot of potential 
> MD buyers around. Imagine what a goot bit rate reducing algo would 
> appeal to the 1000´s of hip hoppers around... this thinking 
> economics. Thinking that elektron cleary shows that likes to make 
> state of the art instruments, I´d do it just for the pleasure of 
> improving my own creation. But hey, that´s me. 

I think best timbres are available when using both SRR and BDR, When 
other one is missing it's not working so well. I would love to see 
knob like 'Lo-fi' instead of SRR or BDR, which would use both methods 
together (and maybe something else too).

Toni.