Elektron Musical Instruments

Hi,

As the title says.... but probably a stupid question. :)

Wanted to get some opions and links to reviews etc for the 
MonoMachine as I amy be intrested in buying one of these and there 
is pretty much no chance of being able to check it out first thanks 
to my isolated location. (in Australia)

Add to that the fact that at $2,100 (SFX60) & $2,700 (SFX6) it ain't 
cheap.... guess I'd better do some research first.

I will also point out that I am prepared to take a gamble with this 
sort of cash as Elektron have a good reputation round my studio 
courtesy of the amazing MachineDrum, plus their service.... (as 
Daniel was very helpful with my bugging questions before I purchased 
it)

What are the key differences between the keyboard & desktop?  Just 
that the desktop is missing the keyboard & the joystick? Is that it?

I think if they are the only differences then I can live without:

The keyboard: have some already

The joystick: have a kaoss pad if I want to do that kind of midi 
control

How do people find the functionality and the stability of the 
MonoMachine?

Current Setup:

Access Virus C
Akai MFC42 Filterbank
Elektron MachineDrum SPS-1
Korg Kaoss Pad 2
Korg MS2000
Novation DrumStation
Roland Juno 106
Waldorf Microwave XT
Yamaha RS7000

I would probably look at selling the Korg MS2000 & Juno 106 if I got 
a MonoMachine.... 

though the RS7000 may be on shaky ground as well if the MM & MD 
syncing = sik live action.


Any advice, comments etc much appreciated!

Thanks,
Rusty

if you're that close to buying a monomachine, it won't hurt you to shell out 20 AUD for
an e-subscription to sound on sound (http://www.soundonsound.com).  theres' a nice,
long review of the monomachine in the april 2004 issue.


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On Aug 6, 2004, at 6:06 AM, crvenazvezda91 wrote:

>  What are the key differences between the keyboard & desktop?  Just
>  that the desktop is missing the keyboard & the joystick? Is that it?

mainly, yes.  but I find that it's really easy and convenient to have 
the LED's there
to graphically display the notes you're sequencing as you're inputting 
them.  it makes
sequencing very quick.  and I like to use the keyboard for triggering 
and playing
overtop of things as they're playing. so I figure that if I'm going to 
use the keyboard
a lot anyway, why not have it there?  but if you have other keyboards 
around the
studio or that you use live, then it's not as necessary.

>  The joystick: have a kaoss pad if I want to do that kind of midi
>  control

make sure you can get full functionality with it, though. it uses 
modulation,
pitch bend and breath control for the directions (I think, check the 
manual online).
the joystick is a great live control, so you might want to use it a 
good deal.

> How do people find the functionality and the stability of the
>  MonoMachine?

both of them are great. it's very easy and fast to use, very simple to 
come up
with new and interesting sounds and so far, it's been stable for about
a year now.

>  I would probably look at selling the Korg MS2000 & Juno 106 if I got
>  a MonoMachine....

that's too bad - the juno 106 sounds great!  but there's two ways to 
look at it: those
aren't that expensive so maybe you can get by without selling it. OR 
since they're
not so expensive and they're easy to come by, you can replace it later. 
:-)

> though the RS7000 may be on shaky ground as well if the MM & MD
>  syncing = sik live action.

they do :-)

there was some (off-topic) discussion over the RS7000 recently in here, 
if you
want to search for that.

Joe

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Hi,
> What are the key differences between the keyboard & desktop?  Just 
> that the desktop is missing the keyboard & the joystick? Is that it?
more or less yes. There are those LEDs over the keyboard that you dont get with any other 
keyboard and i think an additional button to switch the triggermode but other than that 
the SFX-60 can do anything that the SFX-6 can when you connect it to a cdecent 
midicontroller.
i have the sfx-60 and i control it from the timetrippad of my V-Synth. This is a great 
substitute for the joystick and i can even record the movements into the arpeggiator of the 
V-Synth.

> The joystick: have a kaoss pad if I want to do that kind of midi 
> control
a vectorcontroller is perfect. The timetrippad of the v-synth and the kaoos pad are very 
similiar
> 
> How do people find the functionality and the stability of the 
> MonoMachine?
i do suffer from some static clicks that i get every once in  a while and i have to call 
elektron to check if that is softwarerelated or needs to be serviced. 

Other than that i love the combination of MD and mono.
They are a perfect match.
i also have a virus c that fits in that setup perfectly.

For electronic music there is no better interface than the elektron stuff. at least i havent 
seen any and i tried a lot of gear before i bought the md and the mono.
very intuitive and inspiring
i can really recommend it

best
Hans

--- schmackofanz <digitalaudiodesign@...>
wrote:

> Hi,
> > What are the key differences between the keyboard
> & desktop?  Just 
> > that the desktop is missing the keyboard & the
> joystick? Is that it?
> more or less yes. There are those LEDs over the
> keyboard that you dont get with any other 
> keyboard and i think an additional button to switch
> the triggermode but other than that 
> the SFX-60 can do anything that the SFX-6 can when
> you connect it to a cdecent 
> midicontroller.
> i have the sfx-60 and i control it from the
> timetrippad of my V-Synth. This is a great 
> substitute for the joystick and i can even record
> the movements into the arpeggiator of the 
> V-Synth.
> 
> > The joystick: have a kaoss pad if I want to do
> that kind of midi 
> > control
> a vectorcontroller is perfect. The timetrippad of
> the v-synth and the kaoos pad are very 
> similiar
> > 
> > How do people find the functionality and the
> stability of the 
> > MonoMachine?
> i do suffer from some static clicks that i get every
> once in  a while and i have to call 
> elektron to check if that is softwarerelated or
> needs to be serviced. 
> 
> Other than that i love the combination of MD and
> mono.
> They are a perfect match.
> i also have a virus c that fits in that setup
> perfectly.
> 
> For electronic music there is no better interface
> than the elektron stuff. at least i havent 
> seen any and i tried a lot of gear before i bought
> the md and the mono.
> very intuitive and inspiring
> i can really recommend it
> 
> best
> Hans
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
I replaced my Ms2000,MC-505,Korgs EA1 ER1 and a
digital effect processor with getting the MnM. Would I
have done it again? In a heartbeat! The MnM is the
sh*t when it comes to making up electro music. It's
also so much more easy to make up patterns with than
the gear it replaced. Cept for the electribes but then
again this machine sounds allot better than the
electribe units. 

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I don't have access to the original email right now, but thought I'd mention. I am going to be selling my MnM, despite the fact that I really like it? Why? The Spectralis is being released earlier than I expected, and I need to get cash together. 
In any case, if this person is interested (I have the NON-keyboard version) email me off list. If anyone else is interested, you can email me also.

-------------- Original message -------------- 

> 
> --- schmackofanz 
> wrote: 
> 
> > Hi, 
> > > What are the key differences between the keyboard 
> > & desktop? Just 
> > > that the desktop is missing the keyboard & the 
> > joystick? Is that it? 
> > more or less yes. There are those LEDs over the 
> > keyboard that you dont get with any other 
> > keyboard and i think an additional button to switch 
> > the triggermode but other than that 
> > the SFX-60 can do anything that the SFX-6 can when 
> > you connect it to a cdecent 
> > midicontroller. 
> > i have the sfx-60 and i control it from the 
> > timetrippad of my V-Synth. This is a great 
> > substitute for the joystick and i can even record 
> > the movements into the arpeggiator of the 
> > V-Synth. 
> > 
> > > The joystick: have a kaoss pad if I want to do 
> > that kind of midi 
> > > control 
> > a vectorcontroller is perfect. The timetrippad of 
> > the v-synth and the kaoos pad are very 
> > similiar 
> > > 
> > > How do people find the functionality and the 
> > stability of the 
> > > MonoMachine? 
> > i do suffer from some static clicks that i get every 
> > once in a while and i have to call 
> > elektron to check if that is softwarerelated or 
> > needs to be serviced. 
> > 
> > Other than that i love the combination of MD and 
> > mono. 
> > They are a perfect match. 
> > i also have a virus c that fits in that setup 
> > perfectly. 
> > 
> > For electronic music there is no better interface 
> > than the elektron stuff. at least i havent 
> > seen any and i tried a lot of gear before i bought 
> > the md and the mono. 
> > very intuitive and inspiring 
> > i can really recommend it 
> > 
> > best 
> > Hans 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> I replaced my Ms2000,MC-505,Korgs EA1 ER1 and a 
> digital effect processor with getting the MnM. Would I 
> have done it again? In a heartbeat! The MnM is the 
> sh*t when it comes to making up electro music. It's 
> also so much more easy to make up patterns with than 
> the gear it replaced. Cept for the electribes but then 
> again this machine sounds allot better than the 
> electribe units. 
> 
> Auto 
> 
> 
> 
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What did you hear about Spectralis?
When shall it arrive at the stores?
I am much intersted in this one too,
but i don't sell MnM, no way...


--- In elektron-users@yahoogroups.com, implode7@c... wrote:
> I don't have access to the original email right now, but thought I'd
mention. I am going to be selling my MnM, despite the fact that I
really like it? Why? The Spectralis is being released earlier than I
expected, and I need to get cash together. 
> In any case, if this person is interested (I have the NON-keyboard
version) email me off list. If anyone else is interested, you can
email me also.

> 
> -------------- Original message -------------- 
> 
> > 
> > --- schmackofanz 
> > wrote: 
> > 
> > > Hi, 
> > > > What are the key differences between the keyboard 
> > > & desktop? Just 
> > > > that the desktop is missing the keyboard & the 
> > > joystick? Is that it? 
> > > more or less yes. There are those LEDs over the 
> > > keyboard that you dont get with any other 
> > > keyboard and i think an additional button to switch 
> > > the triggermode but other than that 
> > > the SFX-60 can do anything that the SFX-6 can when 
> > > you connect it to a cdecent 
> > > midicontroller. 
> > > i have the sfx-60 and i control it from the 
> > > timetrippad of my V-Synth. This is a great 
> > > substitute for the joystick and i can even record 
> > > the movements into the arpeggiator of the 
> > > V-Synth. 
> > > 
> > > > The joystick: have a kaoss pad if I want to do 
> > > that kind of midi 
> > > > control 
> > > a vectorcontroller is perfect. The timetrippad of 
> > > the v-synth and the kaoos pad are very 
> > > similiar 
> > > > 
> > > > How do people find the functionality and the 
> > > stability of the 
> > > > MonoMachine? 
> > > i do suffer from some static clicks that i get every 
> > > once in a while and i have to call 
> > > elektron to check if that is softwarerelated or 
> > > needs to be serviced. 
> > > 
> > > Other than that i love the combination of MD and 
> > > mono. 
> > > They are a perfect match. 
> > > i also have a virus c that fits in that setup 
> > > perfectly. 
> > > 
> > > For electronic music there is no better interface 
> > > than the elektron stuff. at least i havent 
> > > seen any and i tried a lot of gear before i bought 
> > > the md and the mono. 
> > > very intuitive and inspiring 
> > > i can really recommend it 
> > > 
> > > best 
> > > Hans 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > I replaced my Ms2000,MC-505,Korgs EA1 ER1 and a 
> > digital effect processor with getting the MnM. Would I 
> > have done it again? In a heartbeat! The MnM is the 
> > sh*t when it comes to making up electro music. It's 
> > also so much more easy to make up patterns with than 
> > the gear it replaced. Cept for the electribes but then 
> > again this machine sounds allot better than the 
> > electribe units. 
> > 
> > Auto 
> > 
> > 
> > 
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Well - it wouldn't be my first choice to sell the MnM, however, the timing of all this requires it.
The word that I hear (quite reliable) is that they will start shipping by the 23rd of August.

-------------- Original message -------------- 

> What did you hear about Spectralis? 
> When shall it arrive at the stores? 
> I am much intersted in this one too, 
> but i don't sell MnM, no way... 
> 
> 
> --- In elektron-users@yahoogroups.com, implode7@c... wrote: 
> > I don't have access to the original email right now, but thought I'd 
> mention. I am going to be selling my MnM, despite the fact that I 
> really like it? Why? The Spectralis is being released earlier than I 
> expected, and I need to get cash together. 
> > In any case, if this person is interested (I have the NON-keyboard 
> version) email me off list. If anyone else is interested, you can 
> email me also. 
> > 
> > -------------- Original message -------------- 
> > 
> > > 
> > > --- schmackofanz 
> > > wrote: 
> > > 
> > > > Hi, 
> > > > > What are the key differences between the keyboard 
> > > > & desktop? Just 
> > > > > that the desktop is missing the keyboard & the 
> > > > joystick? Is that it? 
> > > > more or less yes. There are those LEDs over the 
> > > > keyboard that you dont get with any other 
> > > > keyboard and i think an additional button to switch 
> > > > the triggermode but other than that 
> > > > the SFX-60 can do anything that the SFX-6 can when 
> > > > you connect it to a cdecent 
> > > > midicontroller. 
> > > > i have the sfx-60 and i control it from the 
> > > > timetrippad of my V-Synth. This is a great 
> > > > substitute for the joystick and i can even record 
> > > > the movements into the arpeggiator of the 
> > > > V-Synth. 
> > > > 
> > > > > The joystick: have a kaoss pad if I want to do 
> > > > that kind of midi 
> > > > > control 
> > > > a vectorcontroller is perfect. The timetrippad of 
> > > > the v-synth and the kaoos pad are very 
> > > > similiar 
> > > > > 
> > > > > How do people find the functionality and the 
> > > > stability of the 
> > > > > MonoMachine? 
> > > > i do suffer from some static clicks that i get every 
> > > > once in a while and i have to call 
> > > > elektron to check if that is softwarerelated or 
> > > > needs to be serviced. 
> > > > 
> > > > Other than that i love the combination of MD and 
> > > > mono. 
> > > > They are a perfect match. 
> > > > i also have a virus c that fits in that setup 
> > > > perfectly. 
> > > > 
> > > > For electronic music there is no better interface 
> > > > than the elektron stuff. at least i havent 
> > > > seen any and i tried a lot of gear before i bought 
> > > > the md and the mono. 
> > > > very intuitive and inspiring 
> > > > i can really recommend it 
> > > > 
> > > > best 
> > > > Hans 
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > I replaced my Ms2000,MC-505,Korgs EA1 ER1 and a 
> > > digital effect processor with getting the MnM. Would I 
> > > have done it again? In a heartbeat! The MnM is the 
> > > sh*t when it comes to making up electro music. It's 
> > > also so much more easy to make up patterns with than 
> > > the gear it replaced. Cept for the electribes but then 
> > > again this machine sounds allot better than the 
> > > electribe units. 
> > > 
> > > Auto 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > __________________________________ 
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> > > New and Improved Yahoo! Mail - Send 10MB messages! 
> > > http://promotions.yahoo.com/new_mail 
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> > > 
> > > Yahoo! Groups Links 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > 
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> 
> 
> 
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On Aug 6, 2004, at 9:21 AM, niall munnelly wrote:

> if you're that close to buying a monomachine, it won't hurt you to 
> shell out 20 AUD for
>  an e-subscription to sound on sound (http://www.soundonsound.com).  
> theres' a nice,
>  long review of the monomachine in the april 2004 issue.

but there's a more favorable review of it in Future Music :-) (it's 
actually a more in-depth
review as well; complete with sound samples)

also, the new Future Music has an offer to win a Monomachine!

Joe

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Hi,

Just like to say thanks for all the people who answered and 
apologies if the conversation got sidetracked a wee touch onto the 
Spectralis (I'm checking that out as well)

FYI: There is now a pdf of the Future Music review available from 
Elektrons website.

What I would like someone to clarify for me is how many sequencer 
tracks do you have?

If I understand correctly;

You have 6 internal sequencer tracks which you can use as either 

a) 6 parts of one "poly" synth

b) 6 seperate parts with one of the 5 "machines" (diff synth types)

You then also have midi out....?

So are we talking:

a) 6 sequencer tracks. Optional wheter internal or midi out

Or

b) 12 sequencer tracks. 6 internal, 6 external.

Thanks,
Rusty

On Aug 16, 2004, at 2:13 AM, crvenazvezda91 wrote:

>  You have 6 internal sequencer tracks which you can use as either
>
>  a) 6 parts of one "poly" synth
>
>  b) 6 seperate parts with one of the 5 "machines" (diff synth types)

yes. when in poly mode, only one internal track can be sequenced
(not sure if the external tracks can be used in poly mode or not) and
it has six voice polyphony.  otherwise, all six tracks have one
monophonic machine each (or an fx machine or an input machine).

>  b) 12 sequencer tracks. 6 internal, 6 external.

yes. the external tracks share the LFO's with their corresponding
internal track number. other than that, they're independent; they have 
their
own pattern sequence and arpeggiator.

hope that helps!
Joe


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