Elektron Musical Instruments

This is a problem that a fellow user had on another forum I visit, 
and I couldn't figure it out.  If anybody has any input, it would be 
greatly appreciated:

Okay, I think I know what you mean now.

I tried again after a factory reset and loading the INIT kit.

At first I couldn't hear any differences between the beats, but after 
making some changes on the synth parameters, I did hear the sound 
change during the loop. 

You can listen to a recording of the loop:

http://home.powertech.no/vhauge/TRX-B2.WAV

If you got time, could you please do the same on your machine and 
listen if you get the same change in sounds ?

If you don't get this change in sounds from beat to beat after doing 
exactly the same thing as I, then I know there must be something 
wrong with my machinedrum.

Here's what I did:

- Factory reset
- Load INIT kit
- Choose TRX-B2 on the BD track
- Mute the rest of the tracks

On the Synth section: 
- PITCH = 35
- RAMP = 35
- HOLD = 0
- TICK = 8

These changes should not produce any change in sound between the 
different beats during the loop. The ACCENT is at "8" as default, but 
changing it to zero or whatever doesn't make any changes....

Also, there are no parameter locks on the BD track.

All I can figure out is that maybe the LFO produces this change in 
sound during the loope, but I have no routing to the LFO section 
activated. (LFOD=0)

Anyway, the manual says that LFO is synced to BMP so it shouldn't 
make any difference in sound from beat to beat.

If you could try this and report back to me, I would be happy.

Thanks
Regards
Vic20

The only thing I can think of is maybe it is the nature of the b2
wave?  Maybe it has an offset?  It might start at different times in a
wave cycle depending on the pitch or frequency?  Or the click noise
may be inconsistant.  You should ask Elektron about this.  Maybe we
can get some info on the nature of the B2.

In any case I think it's great.

--- In elektron-users@yahoogroups.com, "music_ki" <ki_cz@h...> wrote:

> This is a problem that a fellow user had on another forum I visit, 
> and I couldn't figure it out.  If anybody has any input, it would be 
> greatly appreciated:
> 
> Okay, I think I know what you mean now.
> 
> I tried again after a factory reset and loading the INIT kit.
> 
> At first I couldn't hear any differences between the beats, but after 
> making some changes on the synth parameters, I did hear the sound 
> change during the loop. 
> 
> You can listen to a recording of the loop:
> 
> http://home.powertech.no/vhauge/TRX-B2.WAV
> 
> If you got time, could you please do the same on your machine and 
> listen if you get the same change in sounds ?
> 
> If you don't get this change in sounds from beat to beat after doing 
> exactly the same thing as I, then I know there must be something 
> wrong with my machinedrum.
> 
> Here's what I did:
> 
> - Factory reset
> - Load INIT kit
> - Choose TRX-B2 on the BD track
> - Mute the rest of the tracks
> 
> On the Synth section: 
> - PITCH = 35
> - RAMP = 35
> - HOLD = 0
> - TICK = 8
> 
> These changes should not produce any change in sound between the 
> different beats during the loop. The ACCENT is at "8" as default, but 
> changing it to zero or whatever doesn't make any changes....
> 
> Also, there are no parameter locks on the BD track.
> 
> All I can figure out is that maybe the LFO produces this change in 
> sound during the loope, but I have no routing to the LFO section 
> activated. (LFOD=0)
> 
> Anyway, the manual says that LFO is synced to BMP so it shouldn't 
> make any difference in sound from beat to beat.
> 
> If you could try this and report back to me, I would be happy.
> 
> Thanks
> Regards
> Vic20

Hi, I'm the guy who originally addressed this problem. I sent an e-
mail to Elektron regarding this matter and here's the answer I 
(finally) got from Elektron:

Hello!
> 
> I am not sure if this will be addressed in a future OS upgrade but 
> I am 
> now aware of the problem.
> 
> To get a clicking sound, you can always work around using multiple 
> trigging with a high pitched sine or something similar.
> 
> Thank you and have a nice weekend,
> 
> DE
> Elektron Support


In other words; they don't take this problem seriously.


Victor

--- In elektron-users@yahoogroups.com, "endlessnessisticman" 
<endlessnessisticman@y...> wrote:
> The only thing I can think of is maybe it is the nature of the b2
> wave?  Maybe it has an offset?  It might start at different times 
in a
> wave cycle depending on the pitch or frequency?  Or the click noise
> may be inconsistant.  You should ask Elektron about this.  Maybe we
> can get some info on the nature of the B2.
> 
> In any case I think it's great.
> 
> --- In elektron-users@yahoogroups.com, "music_ki" <ki_cz@h...> 
wrote:
> > This is a problem that a fellow user had on another forum I 
visit, 
> > and I couldn't figure it out.  If anybody has any input, it would 
be 
> > greatly appreciated:
> > 
> > Okay, I think I know what you mean now.
> > 
> > I tried again after a factory reset and loading the INIT kit.
> > 
> > At first I couldn't hear any differences between the beats, but 
after 
> > making some changes on the synth parameters, I did hear the sound 
> > change during the loop. 
> > 
> > You can listen to a recording of the loop:
> > 
> > http://home.powertech.no/vhauge/TRX-B2.WAV
> > 
> > If you got time, could you please do the same on your machine and 
> > listen if you get the same change in sounds ?
> > 
> > If you don't get this change in sounds from beat to beat after 
doing 
> > exactly the same thing as I, then I know there must be something 
> > wrong with my machinedrum.
> > 
> > Here's what I did:
> > 
> > - Factory reset
> > - Load INIT kit
> > - Choose TRX-B2 on the BD track
> > - Mute the rest of the tracks
> > 
> > On the Synth section: 
> > - PITCH = 35
> > - RAMP = 35
> > - HOLD = 0
> > - TICK = 8
> > 
> > These changes should not produce any change in sound between the 
> > different beats during the loop. The ACCENT is at "8" as default, 
but 
> > changing it to zero or whatever doesn't make any changes....
> > 
> > Also, there are no parameter locks on the BD track.
> > 
> > All I can figure out is that maybe the LFO produces this change 
in 

> > sound during the loope, but I have no routing to the LFO section 
> > activated. (LFOD=0)
> > 
> > Anyway, the manual says that LFO is synced to BMP so it shouldn't 
> > make any difference in sound from beat to beat.
> > 
> > If you could try this and report back to me, I would be happy.
> > 
> > Thanks
> > Regards
> > Vic20

Mine does the same thing on TRX bd1 and it really is pissing me off...
I love this piece of gear but between the noise and the clicking BD
its not worth what i paid.... Anyone have any ideas?