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Re: [emax] Re: Send sample from Mac via midi dump with C6 soft

2009-02-02 by cruising

Hello Ted,

Thanks for your answer. My Emax1 is a SE HD, and already have a hard  
drive.
Would the upgrade permit to have a second one or an extra strorage  
(Zip 250? removable rack hard disk ?)



On Feb 2, 2009, at 10:53 PM, Ted Summers wrote:

> SCSI upgrade has nothing to do with the Mac connectivity that I am  
> aware of.
>
> I don't think Emax 1 has SCSI dump.
>
> The SCSI upgrade will allow you to:
> 1) Boot faster
> 2) Save 35 banks to HD, Zip, or compact flash/SD. - 1 flash is much  
> easier
> to work with than 35 floppy disks.
> 3) Switch banks in a very short time (couple of seconds).
>
> Regards,
> Ted
>
> On Mon, Feb 2, 2009 at 12:19 PM, poumpoumchak <cruising@...>  
> wrote:
>
> > Hello Esynthesist,
> >
> > Thanks for this good new ! I could not do the test myself : I  
> have no
> > more soft at this time in the Mac able to save samples as 12 bits
> > lengh, and could not find any converter to 12 bits... and C6 does  
> not
> > convert anything (it only sends Wav, Aiff, and Sns Files). I read
> > again the Emax1 manual and did not found anything speaking about  
> midi
> > dump. I looked at midi-OX that would be interesting..but one more  
> time
> > not for mac.
> >
> > About the compatibility of the compressed banks from the EmaxII, I
> > made a new test today with a bank of single samples (with the device
> > dual off) on the EmaxII when saving, and had again a strange panning
> > when loaded in the Emax1 (+-85% an+-15% again) I shall try  
> tomorrow to
> > find the pan function in the E1 and understand why.
> >
> > If you want me to test some softs evolutions on Mac, I can do it for
> > you (actually with a PPC Mac Pro 2 x 2,5Ghz)under os X.4.11, and  
> soon
> > with Intel processor (just waiting for the next generation of Mac  
> Pro)
> >
> > A last question : what would permit the Ted Summers SCSI upgrade  
> to do
> > for a Mac user ?
> >
> > Thanks in advance
> >
> >
> > --- In emax@yahoogroups.com <emax%40yahoogroups.com>, "esynthesist"
> > <esynthesist@...> wrote:
> > >
> > > Today I checked if MIDI SDS is working fine on the Emax-I.
> > > And it does.
> > > But the samples must be in 12-bit unsigned format. I don't know  
> if C6
> > > or any other sample dump software supports this. The tests I've  
> done
> > > were with MIDI-OX but that's not the best tool to do sample dumps
> > > with :-)
> > > And I used the Emax Plus OS.
> > >
> > > ///E-Synthesist
> > > --- In emax@yahoogroups.com <emax%40yahoogroups.com>,  
> "esynthesist"
> > <esynthesist@> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > If the Emax-I supports SDS then it would be possible to make
> > > software
> > > > which uses the standard MIDI ports to send/receive complete .EM1
> > > > banks to/from the Emax. As far as I remember the Emax-II  
> supports
> > > > SDS, but I'm not sure about the Emax-I and I also don't know  
> about
> > > > the 12bit/16bit requirement (perhaps I will check this one of  
> these
> > > > days).
> > > >
> > > > Anyway, in both cases you have to be aware that this  
> operation mode
> > > > will be VERY slow. Sending 512K of sample data across 31.25  
> kBaud
> > > > lines will take some time (up to minutes...).
> > > > This software can be built for Windows, Mac and Linux, but at  
> this
> > > > point in time I don't have a "modern" Mac sitting here...
> > > > EMXP can be extended with this MIDI dump function, but I'd  
> rather
> > > > wait with this feature until the RS422 hardware project is  
> finished
> > > > (see other messages). The advantage of the RS422 is its  
> speed. But
> > > > once I write software for RS422, I can make it compatible  
> with full
> > > > (slow) MIDI SDS also.
> > > >
> > > > Of course you can use already any MIDI scripting tool for  
> Mac, but
> > > > then you'll have to insert different MIDI instructions  
> (manually ?)
> > > > for each different .EM1/.EM2 bank. I guess this is not what
> > > > musicians/producers call a great solution for getting a good  
> flow
> > > in
> > > > the production process :-)
> > > >
> > > > Related to your panning (stereo field) issue: this is most  
> probably
> > > > caused by the difference in the Emax-I "Dual Voice"  
> definition and
> > > > the Emax-II "Stereo Voice" definition. If these settings are  
> OFF,
> > > > you'll not encounter any problem.
> > > > But once they're ON, the translated results can have panning
> > > > problems. I know that EMXP also suffers from this: I just
> > > translated
> > > > my whole Emax-II library to Emax-I with EMXP and I have panning
> > > > problems too. I was thinking about changing EMXP in such way  
> that
> > > it
> > > > doesn't set Dual Voice ON (Emax-I) when the Stereo Voice is ON
> > > (Emax-
> > > > II), but I'm still doubting because Emu itself is also  
> translating
> > > > these parameters like this (= when you save a bank on Emax-II  
> into
> > > > compressed format, like you did).
> > > > Anyway: you could try to set Stereo Voice OFF before saving  
> it to
> > > > compressed format on an Emax-II, or you can switch Dual Voice  
> OFF
> > > > after loading it on an Emax-I.
> > > > But be aware that - by doing this - you *may* be solving panning
> > > > problems but *may* also be introducing other important sound
> > > > differences...
> > > >
> > > > ///E-Synthesist
> > > >
> > > > --- In emax@yahoogroups.com <emax%40yahoogroups.com>,  
> "poumpoumchak"
> > <cruising@> wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > Hello esynthesist,
> > > > >
> > > > > Thanks for your answer. The idea to have a link between Mac/PC
> > > and
> > > > the
> > > > > emax1 (andII) is really a great hope.
> > > > > As (many) a mac user(s) , I don't actually have solution to  
> make
> > > any
> > > > > evolution in the Emax1/II banks or to import existing  
> banks, and
> > > the
> > > > > old softs solutions are really difficult to use in a fluent  
> studio
> > > > > working (I have dowloaded alchemy, olds macUU and  
> lc475,630,g4..,
> > > > but
> > > > > no more serial midi port).
> > > > > The little midi dump soft C6 permited me to send samples  
> from my
> > > G5
> > > > to
> > > > > the emaxII, and it was for me a really great victory : i was
> > > wayting
> > > > > for that since nearly 15 years : the last bank exchange i  
> could
> > > made
> > > > > was between a Prophet 2000 and Mac Sound Designer such a long
> > > ago...
> > > > > And creating presets to manages these dump samples in the  
> Emax is
> > > > > really not easy with a 2 lines display...
> > > > > So, the Rs422 adapter (usb?) would be really welcome an if  
> EMXP
> > > > could
> > > > > be used with, it would be a new life for the Emaxs...
> > > > >
> > > > > I tried to make a little test last week : to mount the same  
> bank
> > > > from
> > > > > the EmaxII in the EIIIxp, EIVUltra, and in the Emax1 via
> > > compression
> > > > > and floppy save from the EmaxII. (This was to sample and  
> compare
> > > > > results in my Daw with a same midi file play).
> > > > > The compressed banks coming from the Emax II have a panning
> > > problem
> > > > > when I load them on the Emax1 : I have +- 85 % of the sound  
> left
> > > and
> > > > > 15% right or the inverse, depending on the banks. Did I made
> > > wrong a
> > > > > step ? Is there a way to avoid this problem ?
> > > > >
> > > > > Is it possible (with C6 or other soft) to send to the Emax1
> > > samples
> > > > > via midi dump ?
> > > > > Have these samples to be 12 bits ? I tried to send 16 bits
> > > samples
> > > > and
> > > > > the Em1 sent me a handshaking problem answer. Is it because  
> of the
> > > > > format, or the sds implementation ?
> > > > >
> > > > > Thanks in advance (and long way to EMXP !)
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > --- In emax@yahoogroups.com <emax%40yahoogroups.com>,  
> "esynthesist"
> > <esynthesist@> wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Currently there's no way to transfer complete banks via MIDI
> > > > sysex
> > > > > > towards the Emax (I/II), except for the vintage "Sound  
> Designer
> > > > for
> > > > > > Emax" Mac software which is capable of doing something like
> > > this
> > > > but
> > > > > > it only works for Emax-I.
> > > > > > Some members on this board were also trying to build a  
> piece of
> > > > > > hardware which can "replace" the RS422 ports of the old Mac,
> > > and
> > > > > > which can be connected to a new PC or Mac. Once this is  
> done,
> > > > it's a
> > > > > > simple thing to create software for both Windows and Mac  
> which
> > > is
> > > > > > able to do exactly what you're asking for.
> > > > > > But I didn't hear from those guys for some time anymore,  
> so I
> > > > assume
> > > > > > their experiments are not successful :-)
> > > > > > As far as I know, Chickensys Translator does not support  
> MIDI
> > > > > > communication with any sampler. They focus on file- or disk
> > > based
> > > > > > translations (like EMXP) but it's true that there's some  
> delay
> > > on
> > > > > > full support for the Emax-II. As far as I know the current
> > > > version
> > > > > > already supports Emax-II in "some way" (not Emax-I).
> > > > > >
> > > > > > By the way, Rei: I'm very sorry to hear that this is your
> > > opinion
> > > > > > about EMXP...
> > > > > >
> > > > > > ///E-Synthesist
> > > > > >
> > > > > > --- In emax@yahoogroups.com <emax%40yahoogroups.com>, "Rei"
> > <vjrei@> wrote:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Please, go over with your request to the people of chicken
> > > > systems.
> > > > > > I have been asking them
> > > > > > > for ever to have suport for the emax II samplesr and they
> > > told
> > > > me
> > > > > > that by las October they
> > > > > > > probably had something.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > I believe that with preassure they can spend some good  
> time
> > > > into
> > > > > > the emax compatibility
> > > > > > > because the EMXP is too absurrb and I really need a Mac
> > > > software as
> > > > > > well just because the
> > > > > > > emax still amazing!!!
> > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
> >
> >
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