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Integrating the EMAX into my DAW, plus drum samples

Integrating the EMAX into my DAW, plus drum samples

2003-08-18 by David L. Vessell

Hello all,

1.  My EMAX II Turbo (8MB, stereo, 120 MB HD) is kinda the black sheep of my
studio.  It's the only modern instrument I cannot control from my computer.
I would like to be able to at least browse and select sample banks from my
computer, just as I do with my synths with the Sound Quest MIDI Quest 8
editor/librarian software, but I haven't found anything on the net yet.  I
don't even need editing, although that would be a wonderful bonus.  Does
anyone know of a program that will do anything along these lines that will
run on Windows XP?

1a.  Barring that, does anyone know where I can find the MIDI implementation
chart and sysex information for the EMAX II?  If I get desperate enough, I
might attempt writing an editor module for the EMAX in MIDI Quest.

2. I would like suggestions on good sources of drum samples.  I primarily
use my EMAX for drum kits, but I've only mostly been using the stock factory
sample banks, and those are somewhat lacking.

3. Has anyone ever thought of updating that EMX program to work with
something other than DOS?

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DAVID VESEL -- synthetic music for humans
On 14:59 Records
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David L. Vessell, St. Louis, MO
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Re: [emax] Integrating the EMAX into my DAW, plus drum samples

2003-08-18 by John Silveria

I think the Emulator Achive had the Sysex information available. 
http://www.emulatorarchive.com

E-mu didn't implement Sysex correctly and left out a few key strings (like send and 
receive all parameters!) and that is why no one has ever created an editor for it. 

As far as drum samples, what are you looking for? Drum machines, world music, 
standard drum kits? Music Machines at hyperreal still has large sets of old drum 
machines samples. http://machines.hyperreal.org/samples.html

over the last 9 years a few people have said they would use the source code of EMX to 
build a new more modern version, but no one has. Rubber Chicken Software has been 
working on and off on a module for their Translator software. Not sure where they stand 
on that right now. 

The reality is the Emax user base is dwindling and there are so many limitations to the 
actual Emax hardware and OS designs that for most people spending a few hundred 
dollars for an ESI series or a little more for an EIV is an easier solution than spending 
hours trying to work around the Emax limitations. Sure they don't have the punch of the 
Emax, but as home Pro Tools systems become more and more prevelant (saving up for 
a Mac G5 myself) using software samplers or samplers with an easier to manage OS is 
just a reality of where things are heading.


On 18 Aug 2003 at 10:10, David L. Vessell spoke unto me:  

> Hello all,
> 
> 1.  My EMAX II Turbo (8MB, stereo, 120 MB HD) is kinda the black sheep
> of my studio.  It's the only modern instrument I cannot control from
> my computer. I would like to be able to at least browse and select
> sample banks from my computer, just as I do with my synths with the
> Sound Quest MIDI Quest 8 editor/librarian software, but I haven't
> found anything on the net yet.  I don't even need editing, although
> that would be a wonderful bonus.  Does anyone know of a program that
> will do anything along these lines that will run on Windows XP?
> 
> 1a.  Barring that, does anyone know where I can find the MIDI
> implementation chart and sysex information for the EMAX II?  If I get
> desperate enough, I might attempt writing an editor module for the
> EMAX in MIDI Quest.
> 
> 2. I would like suggestions on good sources of drum samples.  I
> primarily use my EMAX for drum kits, but I've only mostly been using
> the stock factory sample banks, and those are somewhat lacking.
> 
> 3. Has anyone ever thought of updating that EMX program to work with
> something other than DOS?
> 
> -----
> DAVID VESEL -- synthetic music for humans
> On 14:59 Records
> http://www.ampcast.com/davidvesel
> davidvesel@...
> -----
> David L. Vessell, St. Louis, MO
> -----
> 
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Re: [emax] Integrating the EMAX into my DAW, plus drum samples

2003-08-18 by moose

On 18/8/03 8:10 AM, "David L. Vessell" wrote:
> 
> 2. I would like suggestions on good sources of drum samples.  I primarily
> use my EMAX for drum kits, but I've only mostly been using the stock factory
> sample banks, and those are somewhat lacking.
> 
get some sample cds - there's a load to choose from depending on your style
of music.  i have cds of classic drum machines thru hard industrial type
noises, loops etc.

alternatively, borrow friends machines & sample 'em...  the roland td10ex is
probably the best machine to sample.

}:-)


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  http://www.alaskahighway.com
  http://www.mishikawa.com



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RE: [emax] Integrating the EMAX into my DAW, plus drum samples

2003-08-18 by Rob Keeble

Hi,
Nice fully loaded Emax II !

1. E-mu designed the SysEx more for sample transfer than for remote control,
so some nice Mac software sprang up to edit samples (Alchemy, SDII) - all
obsolete these days...The SysEx info is on the web site, download the Emax
RS422 MIDI doc - its the same for the Emax II.

2. No-one has done Windows software for the Emax II.

3. Check out the Northstar Max and Greytsounds CDROM's for drum sounds.
www.northstarsamples.com and www.greytsounds.com

4. Plenty of people have thought of an EMX for Windoze, but none have gone
and done it. EMX can access the floppy drive directly to dig into all those
diskette sectors (E-mu diskette formats are sorta UNIX, not Windows or Mac,
more like Atari). Windows doesn't have that capability, so you need to add
some tricks. ChickenSys are actively working on translating to and from the
Emax I format, I have recently helped them out with the sample format.

Regards
Rob - www.emulatorarchive.com

  Hello all,

  1.  My EMAX II Turbo (8MB, stereo, 120 MB HD) is kinda the black sheep of
my
  studio.  It's the only modern instrument I cannot control from my
computer.
  I would like to be able to at least browse and select sample banks from my
  computer, just as I do with my synths with the Sound Quest MIDI Quest 8
  editor/librarian software, but I haven't found anything on the net yet.  I
  don't even need editing, although that would be a wonderful bonus.  Does
  anyone know of a program that will do anything along these lines that will
  run on Windows XP?

  1a.  Barring that, does anyone know where I can find the MIDI
implementation
  chart and sysex information for the EMAX II?  If I get desperate enough, I
  might attempt writing an editor module for the EMAX in MIDI Quest.

  2. I would like suggestions on good sources of drum samples.  I primarily
  use my EMAX for drum kits, but I've only mostly been using the stock
factory
  sample banks, and those are somewhat lacking.

  3. Has anyone ever thought of updating that EMX program to work with
  something other than DOS?

  -----
  DAVID VESEL -- synthetic music for humans
  On 14:59 Records
  http://www.ampcast.com/davidvesel
  davidvesel@...
  -----
  David L. Vessell, St. Louis, MO
  -----



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