Emax

Ok looking for help on here...

I received a EMAX II in pretty bad condition, I have wanted one 
scince I saw Depeche Mode using them. I opened and cleaned unit. 
Took out plastic toy in unit.

Anyway heres the problem. I put one of my Emax Disks in and it tells 
me not Emax II disk. the LCD is off center on unit. The power unit 
on the floppy drive stays lit. I hooked a CD300 to it set SCSI to 6 
but beause it wont read disk nothing boots. It seems without going 
reading the floppy I have a beautifully cleaned (3 hours) Emax II 
that i can only look at.

New foppy drive, internal drive external SCSI drive. 

I swaped the drive from my Emax and no response on that. Same 
problems. I am open to any or all suggestions.

What do I have to do to get unit to boot/ work make a simple sound? 
or should I lay it to rest and seek another Unit. 

Thanks

Fergal

Hi Jarremix
 
I also got the interest of Emax's because of DM.
 
It seems like you have had some bad luck buying this Emax II which apparently have been used for other things than music production (toys and stuff inside). Have you bought it from an auction like Ebay?
 
The floppy drive on the Emax is allways lit no matter if the drive is used or not. It's function must be a kind of power indicator and not to tell that the drive is busy.
 
If your floppy discs are not Emax II you cannot boot her up. Emax I discs will not boot her. Neither will you be able to boot her up using a cd-rom. You need a Emax II floppy disc or a harddrive with the Emax II software on it.
 
Try also to upen her up and check that all connectors (also check the connectors to the floppydrive) are in place by pushing them into the sockets. Do the same with all the chips - gently.
 
I got an Emax II from an auction that wouldn't boot up. After I dissasembled her (took out all of the boards cleaning it) and pushing all connectors and chips into the sockets she got okay.
 
Does all the lights for the submodules light up as well?
 
Let's know how it goes for you.
 
Best regards
 
Brian - a Depeche mode addict

Jarremix <fergal_f@...> wrote:
Ok looking for help on here...

I received a EMAX II in pretty bad condition, I have wanted one 
scince I saw Depeche Mode using them. I opened and cleaned unit. 
Took out plastic toy in unit.

Anyway heres the problem. I put one of my Emax Disks in and it tells 
me not Emax II disk. the LCD is off center on unit. The power unit 
on the floppy drive stays lit. I hooked a CD300 to it set SCSI to 6 
but beause it wont read disk nothing boots. It seems without going 
reading the floppy I have a beautifully cleaned (3 hours) Emax II 
that i can only look at.

New foppy drive, internal drive external SCSI drive. 

I swaped the drive from my Emax and no response on that. Same 
problems. I am open to any or all suggestions.

What do I have to do to get unit to boot/ work make a simple sound? 
or should I lay it to rest and seek another Unit. 

Thanks

Fergal


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>  
> The floppy drive on the Emax is allways lit no matter if the drive is used or not. It's function must be a kind of power indicator and not to tell that the drive is busy.

Not on mine, it's not.  Mine lights when the drive is being accessed
only.  If the LED is on all the time, it could mean that the drive is
faulty, or that the cable has been fitted upside down.  This would also
make it spin continuously.  Pin 1 is usually marked on the PCB, and on
disk drives is usually on the end of the big connector nearest the power
connector.  If the machine has been opened before, it's possible that
the connector has been reversed.  To get the Emax II rack apart, the
floppy cable needs to be disconnected because it's a little short (at
least on mine).

HTH
  Gordon.

Hi Gordon

Are you sure that your floppydrive is original? 

Both my Emax I and Emax II (keyboard versions) floppy drives are 
illuminated with a red light from power up untill power off no matter 
if I access the drive or not.

The drives only spin up when I insert a floppy in it or if I access 
the drive and they work without problems.

My floppy drives are the original ones.

Best regards

Brian

--- In emax@yahoogroups.com, Gordon JC Pearce <gordon@g...> wrote:
> >  
> > The floppy drive on the Emax is allways lit no matter if the 
drive is used or not. It's function must be a kind of power indicator 
and not to tell that the drive is busy.
> 
> Not on mine, it's not.  Mine lights when the drive is being accessed
> only.  If the LED is on all the time, it could mean that the drive 
is
> faulty, or that the cable has been fitted upside down.  This would 
also
> make it spin continuously.  Pin 1 is usually marked on the PCB, and 
on
> disk drives is usually on the end of the big connector nearest the 
power
> connector.  If the machine has been opened before, it's possible 
that
> the connector has been reversed.  To get the Emax II rack apart, the
> floppy cable needs to be disconnected because it's a little short 
(at

> least on mine).
> 
> HTH
>   Gordon.

Thanks to those who have responded already.

I usually dont post in here cause the information is always so good 
in the "archives". I would answer questions but i will leave that to 
the experts -of which there are many- as i try to learn.

I Swapped the floppy from my Emax1 and that didn't help so that 
means that its not just the floppy drive right?

I purchased on ebay and the description was "perfect working 
condition" . I have emailed the seller to let him know that I am 
upset. I had the opportunity to buy a 500 meg rack instead and 
passed, so bad decision on my part.

So I have my shoping list a harddrive Conner 540, maybe a new teac 
floppy can I install one without custom mount , an external zip for 
back-ups. A new LCD. and Sample disks.

Are there any chips etc I should be checking and how in the world 
would i check them to make sure they are working.


Anyone who can help me out on any or all of tha above i would 
appreciate it.


Thanks again 

Fergal











--- In emax@yahoogroups.com, "brian_ronn" <brian_ronn@y...> wrote:
> Hi Gordon
> 
> Are you sure that your floppydrive is original? 
> 
> Both my Emax I and Emax II (keyboard versions) floppy drives are 
> illuminated with a red light from power up untill power off no 
matter 
> if I access the drive or not
> 
> The drives only spin up when I insert a floppy in it or if I 
access 
> the drive and they work without problems.
> 
> My floppy drives are the original ones.
> 
> Best regards
> 
> Brian
> 
> --- In emax@yahoogroups.com, Gordon JC Pearce <gordon@g...> wrote:
> > >  
> > > The floppy drive on the Emax is allways lit no matter if the 
> drive is used or not. It's function must be a kind of power 
indicator 
> and not to tell that the drive is busy.
> > 
> > Not on mine, it's not.  Mine lights when the drive is being 
accessed
> > only.  If the LED is on all the time, it could mean that the 
drive 
> is
> > faulty, or that the cable has been fitted upside down.  This 
would 
> also
> > make it spin continuously.  Pin 1 is usually marked on the PCB, 
and 
> on
> > disk drives is usually on the end of the big connector nearest 
the 
> power
> > connector.  If the machine has been opened before, it's possible 
> that
> > the connector has been reversed.  To get the Emax II rack apart, 
the
> > floppy cable needs to be disconnected because it's a little 
short 

> (at
> > least on mine).
> > 
> > HTH
> >   Gordon.

Hi,
1) Do you have an Emax II diskette, or does "Emax Disks" mean Emax I? You'll
never boot an Emax II from an Emax I diskette - wrong OS.
2) Check the orientation of the floppy drive cable - e.g. where the red
stripe is. It should be on Pin 1 on the board and drive. Wrong way round and
the LED comes on all the time....
3) A new LCD won't be aligned any better - it plus into the same sockets -
try and realign the old one.

Rob - www.emulatorarchive.com

  -----Original Message-----
  From: Jarremix [mailto:fergal_f@...]
  Sent: 10 September 2003 06:23
  To: emax@yahoogroups.com
  Subject: [emax] Emax II problems booting disk


  Ok looking for help on here...

  I received a EMAX II in pretty bad condition, I have wanted one
  scince I saw Depeche Mode using them. I opened and cleaned unit.
  Took out plastic toy in unit.

  Anyway heres the problem. I put one of my Emax Disks in and it tells
  me not Emax II disk. the LCD is off center on unit. The power unit
  on the floppy drive stays lit. I hooked a CD300 to it set SCSI to 6
  but beause it wont read disk nothing boots. It seems without going
  reading the floppy I have a beautifully cleaned (3 hours) Emax II
  that i can only look at.

  New foppy drive, internal drive external SCSI drive.

  I swaped the drive from my Emax and no response on that. Same
  problems. I am open to any or all suggestions.

  What do I have to do to get unit to boot/ work make a simple sound?
  or should I lay it to rest and seek another Unit.

  Thanks

  Fergal


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Ok I dont have any EMAX II OS floppy disks. I have a bunch of Emax I 
disks so that could be a problem first of all.

I tried the format with EMX program with 2DD and 2HD disks but wont 
format.

If there is anyone who could send floppies EMX II formatted or any 
further information I would compensate financially for any costs 
incurred. 


If to get at the LCD is not an easy task I assume so any help there 
would be appreciated.

One final Comment is that you guys are awesome and I hope to able 
help some new people as much as you have already helped me. I feel 
my sanity slowly coming back to me.

Thank You

Fergal





--- In emax@yahoogroups.com, "Rob Keeble" <rob@e...> wrote:
> Hi,
> 1) Do you have an Emax II diskette, or does "Emax Disks" mean Emax 
I? You'll
> never boot an Emax II from an Emax I diskette - wrong OS.
> 2) Check the orientation of the floppy drive cable - e.g. where 
the red
> stripe is. It should be on Pin 1 on the board and drive. Wrong way 
round and
> the LED comes on all the time....
> 3) A new LCD won't be aligned any better - it plus into the same 
sockets -
> try and realign the old one.
> 
> Rob - www.emulatorarchive.com
> 
>   -----Original Message-----
>   From: Jarremix [mailto:fergal_f@y...]
>   Sent: 10 September 2003 06:23
>   To: emax@yahoogroups.com
>   Subject: [emax] Emax II problems booting disk
> 
> 
>   Ok looking for help on here...
> 
>   I received a EMAX II in pretty bad condition, I have wanted one
>   scince I saw Depeche Mode using them. I opened and cleaned unit.
>   Took out plastic toy in unit.
> 
>   Anyway heres the problem. I put one of my Emax Disks in and it 
tells
>   me not Emax II disk. the LCD is off center on unit. The power 
unit
>   on the floppy drive stays lit. I hooked a CD300 to it set SCSI 
to 6
>   but beause it wont read disk nothing boots. It seems without 
going
>   reading the floppy I have a beautifully cleaned (3 hours) Emax II
>   that i can only look at.
> 
>   New foppy drive, internal drive external SCSI drive.
> 
>   I swaped the drive from my Emax and no response on that. Same
>   problems. I am open to any or all suggestions.
> 
>   What do I have to do to get unit to boot/ work make a simple 
sound?
>   or should I lay it to rest and seek another Unit.
> 
>   Thanks
> 
>   Fergal
> 
> 
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i also recently purchased an emaxII 8 meg turbo HD rack   on ebay ...
listed as perfect but was much less than .. it was from puerto rico
and wasn't well taken care of but it works.....

the back side has  a broken jackbut it stil works,
it was all rusted on the back side like it had sat face up in a puddle in
storage,
and had a rack ear missing ... and the volume knob was also missing ..
BUT.... it booted up on the third try from the HD
and has worked ever since .. i guess it sat for a long long time with out
being used ....
so for less than $200 i guess i can't complain to badly.

----- Original Message -----
From: Jarremix
To: emax@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Wednesday, September 10, 2003 8:49 AM
Subject: [emax] Re: Emax II problems booting disk


Thanks to those who have responded already.

I usually dont post in here cause the information is always so good
in the "archives". I would answer questions but i will leave that to
the experts -of which there are many- as i try to learn.

I Swapped the floppy from my Emax1 and that didn't help so that
means that its not just the floppy drive right?

I purchased on ebay and the description was "perfect working
condition" . I have emailed the seller to let him know that I am
upset. I had the opportunity to buy a 500 meg rack instead and
passed, so bad decision on my part.

So I have my shoping list a harddrive Conner 540, maybe a new teac
floppy can I install one without custom mount , an external zip for
back-ups. A new LCD. and Sample disks.

Are there any chips etc I should be checking and how in the world
would i check them to make sure they are working.


Anyone who can help me out on any or all of tha above i would
appreciate it.


Thanks again

Fergal











--- In emax@yahoogroups.com, "brian_ronn" <brian_ronn@y...> wrote:
> Hi Gordon
>
> Are you sure that your floppydrive is original?
>
> Both my Emax I and Emax II (keyboard versions) floppy drives are
> illuminated with a red light from power up untill power off no
matter
> if I access the drive or not
>
> The drives only spin up when I insert a floppy in it or if I
access
> the drive and they work without problems.
>
> My floppy drives are the original ones.
>
> Best regards
>
> Brian
>
> --- In emax@yahoogroups.com, Gordon JC Pearce <gordon@g...> wrote:
> > >
> > > The floppy drive on the Emax is allways lit no matter if the
> drive is used or not. It's function must be a kind of power
indicator
> and not to tell that the drive is busy.
> >
> > Not on mine, it's not.  Mine lights when the drive is being
accessed
> > only.  If the LED is on all the time, it could mean that the
drive
> is
> > faulty, or that the cable has been fitted upside down.  This
would
> also
> > make it spin continuously.  Pin 1 is usually marked on the PCB,
and
> on
> > disk drives is usually on the end of the big connector nearest
the
> power
> > connector.  If the machine has been opened before, it's possible
> that
> > the connector has been reversed.  To get the Emax II rack apart,
the
> > floppy cable needs to be disconnected because it's a little
short
> (at
> > least on mine).
> >
> > HTH
> >   Gordon.


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If you have an older PC, a blank 800k floppy, and about a half hour you can create an EmaxII boot floppy by going to the files section and down load the files in the folder "CopyQm & ZD777 image Emax II 2.14" Folloe the directions closely as it will require you to exit to the DOS prompt and work from there. I believe that it has got a few people up and running. Obviously it won't help if the floppy drive is bad or support controller chip.
Good luck,
Skip

  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Jarremix 
  To: emax@yahoogroups.com 
  Sent: Wednesday, September 10, 2003 8:06 PM
  Subject: [emax] Re: Emax II problems booting disk


  Ok I dont have any EMAX II OS floppy disks. I have a bunch of Emax I 
  disks so that could be a problem first of all.

  I tried the format with EMX program with 2DD and 2HD disks but wont 
  format.

  If there is anyone who could send floppies EMX II formatted or any 
  further information I would compensate financially for any costs 
  incurred. 


  If to get at the LCD is not an easy task I assume so any help there 
  would be appreciated.

  One final Comment is that you guys are awesome and I hope to able 
  help some new people as much as you have already helped me. I feel 
  my sanity slowly coming back to me.

  Thank You

  Fergal





  --- In emax@yahoogroups.com, "Rob Keeble" <rob@e...> wrote:
  > Hi,
  > 1) Do you have an Emax II diskette, or does "Emax Disks" mean Emax 
  I? You'll
  > never boot an Emax II from an Emax I diskette - wrong OS.
  > 2) Check the orientation of the floppy drive cable - e.g. where 
  the red
  > stripe is. It should be on Pin 1 on the board and drive. Wrong way 
  round and
  > the LED comes on all the time....
  > 3) A new LCD won't be aligned any better - it plus into the same 
  sockets -
  > try and realign the old one.
  > 
  > Rob - www.emulatorarchive.com
  > 
  >   -----Original Message-----
  >   From: Jarremix [mailto:fergal_f@y...]
  >   Sent: 10 September 2003 06:23
  >   To: emax@yahoogroups.com
  >   Subject: [emax] Emax II problems booting disk
  > 
  > 
  >   Ok looking for help on here...
  > 
  >   I received a EMAX II in pretty bad condition, I have wanted one
  >   scince I saw Depeche Mode using them. I opened and cleaned unit.
  >   Took out plastic toy in unit.
  > 
  >   Anyway heres the problem. I put one of my Emax Disks in and it 
  tells
  >   me not Emax II disk. the LCD is off center on unit. The power 
  unit
  >   on the floppy drive stays lit. I hooked a CD300 to it set SCSI 
  to 6
  >   but beause it wont read disk nothing boots. It seems without 
  going
  >   reading the floppy I have a beautifully cleaned (3 hours) Emax II
  >   that i can only look at.
  > 
  >   New foppy drive, internal drive external SCSI drive.
  > 
  >   I swaped the drive from my Emax and no response on that. Same
  >   problems. I am open to any or all suggestions.
  > 
  >   What do I have to do to get unit to boot/ work make a simple 
  sound?
  >   or should I lay it to rest and seek another Unit.
  > 
  >   Thanks
  > 
  >   Fergal
  > 
  > 
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i have emaxII disks with the OS on them but not sure of what version, 
i'd be glad to make you a copy and send it to you.

----- Original Message ----- 
From: Jarremix 
To: emax@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Wednesday, September 10, 2003 8:06 PM
Subject: [emax] Re: Emax II problems booting disk


Ok I dont have any EMAX II OS floppy disks. I have a bunch of Emax I 
disks so that could be a problem first of all.

I tried the format with EMX program with 2DD and 2HD disks but wont 
format.

If there is anyone who could send floppies EMX II formatted or any 
further information I would compensate financially for any costs 
incurred. 


If to get at the LCD is not an easy task I assume so any help there 
would be appreciated.

One final Comment is that you guys are awesome and I hope to able 
help some new people as much as you have already helped me. I feel 
my sanity slowly coming back to me.

Thank You

Fergal





--- In emax@yahoogroups.com, "Rob Keeble" <rob@e...> wrote:
> Hi,
> 1) Do you have an Emax II diskette, or does "Emax Disks" mean Emax 
I? You'll
> never boot an Emax II from an Emax I diskette - wrong OS.
> 2) Check the orientation of the floppy drive cable - e.g. where 
the red
> stripe is. It should be on Pin 1 on the board and drive. Wrong way 
round and
> the LED comes on all the time....
> 3) A new LCD won't be aligned any better - it plus into the same 
sockets -
> try and realign the old one.
> 
> Rob - www.emulatorarchive.com
> 
>   -----Original Message-----
>   From: Jarremix [mailto:fergal_f@y...]
>   Sent: 10 September 2003 06:23
>   To: emax@yahoogroups.com
>   Subject: [emax] Emax II problems booting disk
> 
> 
>   Ok looking for help on here...
> 
>   I received a EMAX II in pretty bad condition, I have wanted one
>   scince I saw Depeche Mode using them. I opened and cleaned unit.
>   Took out plastic toy in unit.
> 
>   Anyway heres the problem. I put one of my Emax Disks in and it 
tells
>   me not Emax II disk. the LCD is off center on unit. The power 
unit
>   on the floppy drive stays lit. I hooked a CD300 to it set SCSI 
to 6
>   but beause it wont read disk nothing boots. It seems without 
going
>   reading the floppy I have a beautifully cleaned (3 hours) Emax II
>   that i can only look at.
> 
>   New foppy drive, internal drive external SCSI drive.
> 
>   I swaped the drive from my Emax and no response on that. Same
>   problems. I am open to any or all suggestions.
> 
>   What do I have to do to get unit to boot/ work make a simple 
sound?
>   or should I lay it to rest and seek another Unit.
> 
>   Thanks
> 
>   Fergal
> 
> 
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I wouls appreciate that let me know how you wnat to take care of 
that.

How many disks and how much for the disks, shipping etc.

Thanks

Fergal



--- In emax@yahoogroups.com, "capricorn" <capriqorn269@o...> wrote:
> i have emaxII disks with the OS on them but not sure of what 
version, 
> i'd be glad to make you a copy and send it to you.
> 
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: Jarremix 
> To: emax@yahoogroups.com 
> Sent: Wednesday, September 10, 2003 8:06 PM
> Subject: [emax] Re: Emax II problems booting disk
> 
> 
> Ok I dont have any EMAX II OS floppy disks. I have a bunch of Emax 
I 
> disks so that could be a problem first of all.
> 
> I tried the format with EMX program with 2DD and 2HD disks but 
wont 
> format.
> 
> If there is anyone who could send floppies EMX II formatted or any 
> further information I would compensate financially for any costs 
> incurred. 
> 
> 
> If to get at the LCD is not an easy task I assume so any help 
there 
> would be appreciated.
> 
> One final Comment is that you guys are awesome and I hope to able 
> help some new people as much as you have already helped me. I feel 
> my sanity slowly coming back to me.
> 
> Thank You
> 
> Fergal
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> --- In emax@yahoogroups.com, "Rob Keeble" <rob@e...> wrote:
> > Hi,
> > 1) Do you have an Emax II diskette, or does "Emax Disks" mean 
Emax 
> I? You'll
> > never boot an Emax II from an Emax I diskette - wrong OS.
> > 2) Check the orientation of the floppy drive cable - e.g. where 
> the red
> > stripe is. It should be on Pin 1 on the board and drive. Wrong 
way 
> round and
> > the LED comes on all the time....
> > 3) A new LCD won't be aligned any better - it plus into the same 
> sockets -
> > try and realign the old one.
> > 
> > Rob - www.emulatorarchive.com
> > 
> >   -----Original Message-----
> >   From: Jarremix [mailto:fergal_f@y...]
> >   Sent: 10 September 2003 06:23
> >   To: emax@yahoogroups.com
> >   Subject: [emax] Emax II problems booting disk
> > 
> > 
> >   Ok looking for help on here...
> > 
> >   I received a EMAX II in pretty bad condition, I have wanted one
> >   scince I saw Depeche Mode using them. I opened and cleaned 
unit.
> >   Took out plastic toy in unit.
> > 
> >   Anyway heres the problem. I put one of my Emax Disks in and it 
> tells
> >   me not Emax II disk. the LCD is off center on unit. The power 
> unit
> >   on the floppy drive stays lit. I hooked a CD300 to it set SCSI 
> to 6
> >   but beause it wont read disk nothing boots. It seems without 
> going
> >   reading the floppy I have a beautifully cleaned (3 hours) Emax 
II
> >   that i can only look at.
> > 
> >   New foppy drive, internal drive external SCSI drive.
> > 
> >   I swaped the drive from my Emax and no response on that. Same
> >   problems. I am open to any or all suggestions.
> > 
> >   What do I have to do to get unit to boot/ work make a simple 
> sound?
> >   or should I lay it to rest and seek another Unit.
> > 
> >   Thanks
> > 
> >   Fergal
> > 
> > 
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> > 
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> Service.
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