Emax

Anyone know of or can point me to any info on replacing an emax floppy 
drive with a more readily available pc type drive? Is there an issue 
with the 0/1 drive id with 1 being default on new drives because of the 
PC floppy cable twist switching the device id or do I need a 720k 
drive? Better yet, anybody got a source for a replacement floppy drive 
other than a dead emax? Thanks in advance!

-Brian

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www.Route66studios.com has the drives


 In a message dated 10/2/2004 8:50:56 PM Eastern Daylight Time, Brian Broadt <brianb@...> writes:

>
>Anyone know of or can point me to any info on replacing an emax floppy 
>drive with a more readily available pc type drive? Is there an issue 
>with the 0/1 drive id with 1 being default on new drives because of the 
>PC floppy cable twist switching the device id or do I need a 720k 
>drive? Better yet, anybody got a source for a replacement floppy drive 
>other than a dead emax? Thanks in advance!
>
>-Brian
>
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---Hi

My FD (Emax II) go to hell! And I reestablish a conntact with some
"master" in the digital world adn he rapleced my FD with the FD from 
Roland synth. I dont know from wich model, but  I can say "It works 
as a new one"!  The guys from route66 wants 100$. too much too much.

Danilo

Hello list!

I have a (probably very simple) question..

I have a while ago been given 2 non-working emaxes, both with fried power 
supplies and one with fried floppy drive..

One of these emaxes also came equipped with an internal hd, but as it is 
closing in on 20 years old, I'm thinking of putting in an old scsi zip 100 
drive into it instead and all that..

BUT ... my problem is: how do i transfer the os from the harddrive (or from 
diskette) to the zipdrive that i was plannign on making internal?

Also, if i've read it correctly on emulatorarchive, all i really need to do 
is take out the harddrive, and set my zipdrive as SCSI id 100 and it should 
hopefully try to boot from the zipdrive instead..

BUT .. the emax doesnt support larger drives than 20 MB ... so ... i take it 
i need to format the zipdisk into a format the emax can understand..

of course, to make matters harder, the old emaxes i was given had been given 
a rather crude paint job, and this none of the old menu buttons are visible, 
so i really have no idea what button does what at this point .. ;)

I am refurbishing the emaxes for live use with my band .. i'll post images 
when the first one is ready ;)

in the mean time, i'd appreciate a little help .. also .. where can i change 
what midi channel the emax is transmitting on?

thanks,

//Micke

On 5 Oct 2004 at 15:18, Micke Askernäs spoke unto me:

> One of these emaxes also came equipped with an internal hd, but as it
> is closing in on 20 years old, I'm thinking of putting in an old scsi
> zip 100 drive into it instead and all that..

Remember if you are not going to do the external Zip Mod you will need to make sure 
the new power supply can handle the Zip, the original power supply can't.

> BUT ... my problem is: how do i transfer the os from the harddrive (or
> from diskette) to the zipdrive that i was plannign on making internal?

When you run the format command from any bootable media (floppy or hard drive) it 
automatically copies the OS as part of the process.

> Also, if i've read it correctly on emulatorarchive, all i really need
> to do is take out the harddrive, and set my zipdrive as SCSI id 100
> and it should hopefully try to boot from the zipdrive instead..

If you have the Zip set to the same ID as the hard drive then yes, it will try to boot from 
the SCSI ID assigned to the hard drive first.
 
> BUT .. the emax doesnt support larger drives than 20 MB ... so ... i
> take it i need to format the zipdisk into a format the emax can
> understand..

The only way to format a srive for Emax use is with the Emax itself, it has it's own 
proprietary format scheme. It will ignore anything beyond the 20Mb it can format.

> of course, to make matters harder, the old emaxes i was given had been
> given a rather crude paint job, and this none of the old menu buttons
> are visible, so i really have no idea what button does what at this
> point .. ;)

Download the manual in pdf format from wither my site or the Emulator Archive. It's not 
as good as having the menu on the unit itself, but what can you do!
 
> I am refurbishing the emaxes for live use with my band .. i'll post
> images when the first one is ready ;)
>
> in the mean time, i'd appreciate a little help .. also .. where can i
> change what midi channel the emax is transmitting on?

I can't quite remember it's been a long time, but it should be somewhere in the Master | 
Special  menu. Try pressing Master then using the slider to see the name of all the 
menus, I think it might be Master | 0 (Special) | 2 Midi Master  .. but hat could be wrong 
too ..
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Thanks for your answers, John...

However, one quick question:

How powerful is/was the original Emax power supplys?

since mine were fried, i managed to fit two 80W supplys i bought 12 years ago 
and never used into the each of my emaxes, and it seems to have worked just 
fine since then, and since it has basically the same specifications (a few 
extra coords that i dont use, but othwerwise same Voltage and Ampere on the 
outputs)..

hopefully, this 80W should be more than sufficient to run a zipdrive on, 
escpeicllay when i remove both floppy and harddrive...

;)

//Micke

On Tue, 05 Oct 2004 10:39:14 -0400, John Silveria wrote 
> On 5 Oct 2004 at 15:18, Micke Askern\ufffds spoke unto me: 
> 
> > One of these emaxes also came equipped with an internal hd, but as it 
> > is closing in on 20 years old, I'm thinking of putting in an old scsi 
> > zip 100 drive into it instead and all that.. 
> 
> Remember if you are not going to do the external Zip Mod you will need to 
make sure 
> the new power supply can handle the Zip, the original power supply can't. 
> 
> > BUT ... my problem is: how do i transfer the os from the harddrive (or 
> > from diskette) to the zipdrive that i was plannign on making internal? 
> 
> When you run the format command from any bootable media (floppy or hard 
drive) it 
> automatically copies the OS as part of the process. 
> 
> > Also, if i've read it correctly on emulatorarchive, all i really need 
> > to do is take out the harddrive, and set my zipdrive as SCSI id 100 
> > and it should hopefully try to boot from the zipdrive instead.. 
> 
> If you have the Zip set to the same ID as the hard drive then yes, it will 
try to boot from 
> the SCSI ID assigned to the hard drive first. 
> 
> > BUT .. the emax doesnt support larger drives than 20 MB ... so ... i 
> > take it i need to format the zipdisk into a format the emax can 
> > understand.. 
> 
> The only way to format a srive for Emax use is with the Emax itself, it has 
it's own 
> proprietary format scheme. It will ignore anything beyond the 20Mb it can 
format. 
> 
> > of course, to make matters harder, the old emaxes i was given had been 
> > given a rather crude paint job, and this none of the old menu buttons 
> > are visible, so i really have no idea what button does what at this 
> > point .. ;) 
> 
> Download the manual in pdf format from wither my site or the Emulator 
Archive. It's not 
> as good as having the menu on the unit itself, but what can you do! 
> 
> > I am refurbishing the emaxes for live use with my band .. i'll post 
> > images when the first one is ready ;) 
> > 
> > in the mean time, i'd appreciate a little help .. also .. where can i 
> > change what midi channel the emax is transmitting on? 
> 
> I can't quite remember it's been a long time, but it should be somewhere in 
the Master | 
> Special\ufffd menu. Try pressing Master then using the slider to see the name of 
all the 
> menus, I think it might be Master | 0 (Special) | 2 Midi Master\ufffd .. but hat 
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In a message dated 10/5/2004 4:08:34 AM Eastern Daylight Time, "monson05" <monson05@...> writes:

>
>
>---Hi
>
>My FD (Emax II) go to hell! And I reestablish a conntact with some
>"master" in the digital world adn he rapleced my FD with the FD from 
>Roland synth. I dont know from wich model, but \ufffdI can say "It works 
>as a new one"! \ufffdThe guys from route66 wants 100$. too much too much.
>
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I can't answer that.. Rob at Emulator Archive has the lowdown on the actual internal 
parts. 

On 5 Oct 2004 at 16:55, Micke Askernäs spoke unto me:

> Thanks for your answers, John...
> 
> However, one quick question:
> 
> How powerful is/was the original Emax power supplys?
> 
> since mine were fried, i managed to fit two 80W supplys i bought 12
> years ago and never used into the each of my emaxes, and it seems to
> have worked just fine since then, and since it has basically the same
> specifications (a few extra coords that i dont use, but othwerwise
> same Voltage and Ampere on the outputs)..
> 
> hopefully, this 80W should be more than sufficient to run a zipdrive
> on, escpeicllay when i remove both floppy and harddrive...
> 
> ;)
> 
> //Micke
> 
> On Tue, 05 Oct 2004 10:39:14 -0400, John Silveria wrote 
> > On 5 Oct 2004 at 15:18, Micke Askernäs spoke unto me: 
> > 
> > > One of these emaxes also came equipped with an internal hd, but as
> > > it is closing in on 20 years old, I'm thinking of putting in an
> > > old scsi zip 100 drive into it instead and all that.. 
> > 
> > Remember if you are not going to do the external Zip Mod you will
> > need to 
> make sure 
> > the new power supply can handle the Zip, the original power supply
> > can't. 
> > 
> > > BUT ... my problem is: how do i transfer the os from the harddrive
> > > (or from diskette) to the zipdrive that i was plannign on making
> > > internal? 
> > 
> > When you run the format command from any bootable media (floppy or
> > hard 
> drive) it 
> > automatically copies the OS as part of the process. 
> > 
> > > Also, if i've read it correctly on emulatorarchive, all i really
> > > need to do is take out the harddrive, and set my zipdrive as SCSI
> > > id 100 and it should hopefully try to boot from the zipdrive
> > > instead.. 
> > 
> > If you have the Zip set to the same ID as the hard drive then yes,
> > it will 
> try to boot from 
> > the SCSI ID assigned to the hard drive first. 
> > 
> > > BUT .. the emax doesnt support larger drives than 20 MB ... so ...
> > > i take it i need to format the zipdisk into a format the emax can
> > > understand.. 
> > 
> > The only way to format a srive for Emax use is with the Emax itself,
> > it has 
> it's own 
> > proprietary format scheme. It will ignore anything beyond the 20Mb
> > it can 
> format. 
> > 
> > > of course, to make matters harder, the old emaxes i was given had
> > > been given a rather crude paint job, and this none of the old menu
> > > buttons are visible, so i really have no idea what button does
> > > what at this point .. ;) 
> > 
> > Download the manual in pdf format from wither my site or the
> > Emulator 
> Archive. It's not 
> > as good as having the menu on the unit itself, but what can you do! 
> > 
> > > I am refurbishing the emaxes for live use with my band .. i'll
> > > post images when the first one is ready ;) 
> > > 
> > > in the mean time, i'd appreciate a little help .. also .. where
> > > can i change what midi channel the emax is transmitting on? 
> > 
> > I can't quite remember it's been a long time, but it should be
> > somewhere in 
> the Master | 
> > Special  menu. Try pressing Master then using the slider to see the
> > name of 
> all the 
> > menus, I think it might be Master | 0 (Special) | 2 Midi Master  ..
> > but hat 
> could be wrong 
> > too .. 
> > -- 
> >                            John Silveria II 
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Hi
Agreed, it should be more than enough once the hard disk is out the way -
thats what eats up the current.
Remember Emax will only boot from floppy and SCSI ID 0, so set internal SCSI
to 0.

Regards
Rob
  hopefully, this 80W should be more than sufficient to run a zipdrive on,
  escpeicllay when i remove both floppy and harddrive...



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Hi.

I'm looking for a good piano sound for my Emax II. I need a sound with a 
pretty long sustain, I have the 9ft grand right now but that one dies 
too fast I think. If you have one, please contact me!

/jens

Correct!! 68$ + shiping + duty+ tax=???
Thats the bill for me!! Otherwise...yes 68$.

Danilo




--- In emax@yahoogroups.com, mishon66@a... wrote:
> 
> Hummmm that's funny the Emax drives is $68.00 at Route 66 last 
time I checked, wich was 10 min ago.
>  David at Route 66
> 
> 
> In a message dated 10/5/2004 4:08:34 AM Eastern Daylight 
Time, "monson05" <monson05@y...> writes:

> 
> >
> >

Hello again ;)

While disassembling my emaxes it turned out that one of the keys (a D if i 
remember correctly was cracked .. or rather .. broken right whrere the spring 
is supposed to be attached.

I also lack the spring that makes the key stay in upright position..

Is there anyone on this list that has spare parts, or have any idea where I 
can find a replacement key and spring?

I can always superglue they key back together, and it will hold for at least 
a little while, but i still lack the spring that would make it 
operational ... =(

Also, I am searching for the small backplate where the powercord is attached, 
it was also missing on one of the machines, otherwise they both work after 
switching power supplys ;)

the backplate is not that big a deal, I think i can manufacture something 
that would work to have in its place, but an original part would not hurt .. 
so again .. anyone with spare parts ? ;)

any hits would be greatly appreciated !

thanks.. I promise to post lots of pictures when both my emaxes are fixed up 
and gotten their new paintjob and all ;)

//Micke

So I guess no one know's if it's possible to adapt a $5 PC floppy drive 
or an older PC style 720k floppy drive for the EMAX?

I actually managed to score a Miniscribe drive for the emax (the exact 
model# needed which escapes me now) on ebay for $9.95!!!! We'll see how 
long it lasts!! Also got a kinda beat up HD SE Rack with Zip mod and a 
replacement LCD & Control panel board. FrankEnMAX here I come!

_brian

www.falseicons.com
www.soundclick/falseicons

On Oct 6, 2004, at 1:06 AM, monson05 wrote:

>
>  Correct!! 68$ + shiping + duty+ tax=???
>  Thats the bill for me!! Otherwise...yes 68$.
>
>  Danilo
>
>
>
>
>  --- In emax@yahoogroups.com, mishon66@a... wrote:
>  >
>  > Hummmm that's funny the Emax drives is $68.00 at Route 66 last
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>  >� David at Route 66
>  >
>  >
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IF you know what you are doing, almost any IBM compatible floppy can be 
changed to work with the emax. I bought a black drive (don't remember 
brand), and looked at the old drive, followed its circuitry, compared to new 
drive and moved one or two surface-mount jumpers.

***FYI:  I have worked as an electronics tech and have the equipment, and the 
knowledge of what I am doing. 

The drive did not fit directly in however.  And a standard drive leaves a large 
gap. I then had to fabricate a bracket. This took me a good couple of hours 
cutting, drilling, measuring, etc. I have electronics tools. I don't have a 
machine shop. If you really want your emax to work, and if the Route66 drive 
is a straight plug in, correct size and all, do it....

thats just my opinion. I get paid about $20 an hour. By the time I finished, my 
time was probably worth the cost of the Route66 drive.....if not more....

thanks,
Ted

So it does have to do mainly with drive ID assignment, I may even have 
some old drives kicking around that had the switchable jumpers. I also 
manage my family's PC repair shop which has been around since the late 
'70s so I think we might have something around I might not even have to 
solder. Was the drive you used a 1.44 drive?

_brian

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On Oct 7, 2004, at 9:46 PM, djtbs1 wrote:

>
>  IF you know what you are doing, almost any IBM compatible floppy can 
> be
>  changed to work with the emax. I bought a black drive (don't remember
>  brand), and looked at the old drive, followed its circuitry, compared 
> to new
>  drive and moved one or two surface-mount jumpers.
>
>  ***FYI:� I have worked as an electronics tech and have the equipment, 
> and the
>  knowledge of what I am doing.
>
>  The drive did not fit directly in however.� And a standard drive 
> leaves a large
>  gap. I then had to fabricate a bracket. This took me a good couple of 
> hours
>  cutting, drilling, measuring, etc. I have electronics tools. I don't 
> have a
>  machine shop. If you really want your emax to work, and if the 
> Route66 drive
>  is a straight plug in, correct size and all, do it....
>
>  thats just my opinion. I get paid about $20 an hour. By the time I 
> finished, my
>  time was probably worth the cost of the Route66 drive.....if not 
> more....
>
>  thanks,
>  Ted
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