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Differences: Emax & Emax II

2005-03-28 by ~*~Amber~*~

I was wondering what the major differences are between the original 
Emax and the Emax II, aside from the Emax II being an upgraded
version 
of the Emax.  I ask because I already have an Emax II keyboard, and 
have the opportunity to purchase a rack mount Emax, and I'd like to 
know if picking up the Emax is worth my while, like if it possesses 
features the Emax II doesn't.

Re: [emax] Differences: Emax & Emax II

2005-03-28 by elmacaco

Yes, magic!!!!

That 12 bit beauty that adds great character to any sound sampled, makes everything more musical, and has a great way of sitting in a mix while still sounding big.

The rack is ideal, the best one to get is a SE HD with the corresponding panel graphics, then you can even add external scsi and have a zip drive, but I don't use too many of the SE features, so a regular emax is cool too if the price is right.
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  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: ~*~Amber~*~ 
  To: emax@yahoogroups.com 
  Sent: Monday, March 28, 2005 5:46 PM
  Subject: [emax] Differences: Emax & Emax II



  I was wondering what the major differences are between the original 
  Emax and the Emax II, aside from the Emax II being an upgraded
  version 
  of the Emax.  I ask because I already have an Emax II keyboard, and 
  have the opportunity to purchase a rack mount Emax, and I'd like to 
  know if picking up the Emax is worth my while, like if it possesses 
  features the Emax II doesn't.





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Re: [emax] Differences: Emax & Emax II

2005-03-29 by JUDITH DEHART

How does that "twelve bit beauty" add better character
to the sound?  I guess I'll call Warner Bros and tell
them it's time to re-record the last two albums so my
keys will "sit" in the mix.
I don't hear this magic difference that you do between
Emax I and II...........I do hear a difference between
Emax (I or II) and my EMU Ultras................The
Ultras can sound a bit cold..(on some samples).
Help me out understanding what the difference is.  If
your talking differences in filters or
what.?...........No offense........we all love
Emax.....but I've used both and like Emax
keyboards....period.
I'm a musician, not a techno detail guy, maybe I just
don't get it.
Share the magic.............
Dave


---------------------------------
Yes, magic!!!!

That 12 bit beauty that adds great character to any
sound sampled, makes everything more musical, and has
a great way of sitting in a mix while still sounding
big.

The rack is ideal, the best one to get is a SE HD with
the corresponding panel graphics, then you can even
add external scsi and have a zip drive, but I don't
use too many of the SE features, so a regular emax is
cool too if the price is right.
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  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: ~*~Amber~*~ 
  To: emax@yahoogroups.com 
  Sent: Monday, March 28, 2005 5:46 PM
  Subject: [emax] Differences: Emax & Emax II



  I was wondering what the major differences are
between the original 
  Emax and the Emax II, aside from the Emax II being
an upgraded
  version 
  of the Emax.  I ask because I already have an Emax
II keyboard, and 
  have the opportunity to purchase a rack mount Emax,
and I'd like to 
  know if picking up the Emax is worth my while, like
if it possesses 
  features the Emax II doesn't.





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  http://www.silveriafamily.com 


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Re: [emax] Differences: Emax & Emax II

2005-03-29 by elmacaco

The filters, the A/D D/A converters, the way stuff sounds when you put it in there, the way it breaks up beautifully when you tune a 10KHz sample down ridiculously, the VCA's, the sound so close to an SP-1200 (great sound reputation, just ask the warner brothers ;) 

In short, magic.  I was saying that the emax would be a good addition to a emax II.  They were engineered very differently, and it is audible, and I'm sure they would complement each other, especially if available cheap.  Are you saying an emax is not a good addition to a setup with an emax II?  Cuz that was the question, do you have to be so condescending about a different opinion?

I also said the way it sits in a mix, not that it sits in a mix, anything can be made to sit or strapped down, but the way the emax does it is very unique, the contrast with acoustic and analog sounds is just great, it's like Dr. Who magic.

The Emax II is far less interesting to me, but still good, great digital filters, they sound very good, but it is just not interesting enough for me, It delivers different things than the emax, things that don't interest me, but might interest you.  I also have an S6000 sampler, and it is far less interesting to me compared to the emax, even with all the FX and filter types available.  I like my samplers to have character, to give something more back than what I put into it.  I find 12 bit samplers do this more for my tastes, then again, I am not trying to play it like a piano, There are other things for that, like pianos ;)  but it depends what you're going for.

The Emax just does that for me, I am getting deeper and deeper into what it can do, and I don't  think I'll run out soon.  I embrace aliasing, and am not a techno guy, but I try to hear music in what others may not be able to, that's my thing, I love it in my music and I love searching for it.  With the emax, it is easy to find and more rewarding than I expected.  I am a musician too, but I know my tools  inside and out, it helps me get more out of them.

Two WB albums?  I'd love to hear them, I'm glad stuff with old samplers is still being released!
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  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: JUDITH DEHART 
  To: emax@yahoogroups.com 
  Sent: Tuesday, March 29, 2005 1:36 AM
  Subject: Re: [emax] Differences: Emax & Emax II


  How does that "twelve bit beauty" add better character
  to the sound?  I guess I'll call Warner Bros and tell
  them it's time to re-record the last two albums so my
  keys will "sit" in the mix.
  I don't hear this magic difference that you do between
  Emax I and II...........I do hear a difference between
  Emax (I or II) and my EMU Ultras................The
  Ultras can sound a bit cold..(on some samples).
  Help me out understanding what the difference is.  If
  your talking differences in filters or
  what.?...........No offense........we all love
  Emax.....but I've used both and like Emax
  keyboards....period.
  I'm a musician, not a techno detail guy, maybe I just
  don't get it.
  Share the magic.............
  Dave


  ---------------------------------
  Yes, magic!!!!

  That 12 bit beauty that adds great character to any
  sound sampled, makes everything more musical, and has
  a great way of sitting in a mix while still sounding
  big.

  The rack is ideal, the best one to get is a SE HD with
  the corresponding panel graphics, then you can even
  add external scsi and have a zip drive, but I don't
  use too many of the SE features, so a regular emax is
  cool too if the price is right.


    ----- Original Message ----- 
    From: ~*~Amber~*~ 
    To: emax@yahoogroups.com 
    Sent: Monday, March 28, 2005 5:46 PM
    Subject: [emax] Differences: Emax & Emax II



    I was wondering what the major differences are
  between the original 
    Emax and the Emax II, aside from the Emax II being
  an upgraded
    version 
    of the Emax.  I ask because I already have an Emax
  II keyboard, and 
    have the opportunity to purchase a rack mount Emax,
  and I'd like to 
    know if picking up the Emax is worth my while, like
  if it possesses 
    features the Emax II doesn't.





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    http://www.silveriafamily.com 


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Re: [emax] Differences: Emax & Emax II

2005-03-29 by JUDITH DEHART

AT LAST!!!!
A great answer to this question.
Sorry if I sounded condescending........I've heard I'm
hard to work with sometimes...........maybe it's true.
I'ld love to hear more passionate discussion from this
group and feel free to let me have it if I sound
condescending.........it's really directed at not
hearing the "why" that goes along with opinions that
are expressed.  That's the part that expands all of
our understanding. 
Thanks for taking the time to give a detailed "why".
Dave


---------------------------------
The filters, the A/D D/A converters, the way stuff
sounds when you put it in there, the way it breaks up
beautifully when you tune a 10KHz sample down
ridiculously, the VCA's, the sound so close to an
SP-1200 (great sound reputation, just ask the warner
brothers ;) 

In short, magic.  I was saying that the emax would be
a good addition to a emax II.  They were engineered
very differently, and it is audible, and I'm sure they
would complement each other, especially if available
cheap.  Are you saying an emax is not a good addition
to a setup with an emax II?  Cuz that was the
question, do you have to be so condescending about a
different opinion?

I also said the way it sits in a mix, not that it sits
in a mix, anything can be made to sit or strapped
down, but the way the emax does it is very unique, the
contrast with acoustic and analog sounds is just
great, it's like Dr. Who magic.

The Emax II is far less interesting to me, but still
good, great digital filters, they sound very good, but
it is just not interesting enough for me, It delivers
different things than the emax, things that don't
interest me, but might interest you.  I also have an
S6000 sampler, and it is far less interesting to me
compared to the emax, even with all the FX and filter
types available.  I like my samplers to have
character, to give something more back than what I put
into it.  I find 12 bit samplers do this more for my
tastes, then again, I am not trying to play it like a
piano, There are other things for that, like pianos ;)
 but it depends what you're going for.

The Emax just does that for me, I am getting deeper
and deeper into what it can do, and I don't  think
I'll run out soon.  I embrace aliasing, and am not a
techno guy, but I try to hear music in what others may
not be able to, that's my thing, I love it in my music
and I love searching for it.  With the emax, it is
easy to find and more rewarding than I expected.  I am
a musician too, but I know my tools  inside and out,
it helps me get more out of them.

Two WB albums?  I'd love to hear them, I'm glad stuff
with old samplers is still being released!
Show quoted textHide quoted text
  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: JUDITH DEHART 
  To: emax@yahoogroups.com 
  Sent: Tuesday, March 29, 2005 1:36 AM
  Subject: Re: [emax] Differences: Emax & Emax II


  How does that "twelve bit beauty" add better
character
  to the sound?  I guess I'll call Warner Bros and
tell
  them it's time to re-record the last two albums so
my
  keys will "sit" in the mix.
  I don't hear this magic difference that you do
between
  Emax I and II...........I do hear a difference
between
  Emax (I or II) and my EMU Ultras................The
  Ultras can sound a bit cold..(on some samples).
  Help me out understanding what the difference is. 
If
  your talking differences in filters or
  what.?...........No offense........we all love
  Emax.....but I've used both and like Emax
  keyboards....period.
  I'm a musician, not a techno detail guy, maybe I
just
  don't get it.
  Share the magic.............
  Dave


  ---------------------------------
  Yes, magic!!!!

  That 12 bit beauty that adds great character to any
  sound sampled, makes everything more musical, and
has
  a great way of sitting in a mix while still sounding
  big.

  The rack is ideal, the best one to get is a SE HD
with
  the corresponding panel graphics, then you can even
  add external scsi and have a zip drive, but I don't
  use too many of the SE features, so a regular emax
is
  cool too if the price is right.


    ----- Original Message ----- 
    From: ~*~Amber~*~ 
    To: emax@yahoogroups.com 
    Sent: Monday, March 28, 2005 5:46 PM
    Subject: [emax] Differences: Emax & Emax II



    I was wondering what the major differences are
  between the original 
    Emax and the Emax II, aside from the Emax II being
  an upgraded
    version 
    of the Emax.  I ask because I already have an Emax
  II keyboard, and 
    have the opportunity to purchase a rack mount
Emax,
  and I'd like to 
    know if picking up the Emax is worth my while,
like
  if it possesses 
    features the Emax II doesn't.





    Emax and Emax II User's Group Website

    http://www.silveriafamily.com 


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Re: [emax] Differences: Emax & Emax II

2005-03-29 by elmacaco

No Problem, I was up late sampling into the emax, so I was full of the 'afterglow' ;)
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  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: JUDITH DEHART 
  To: emax@yahoogroups.com 
  Sent: Tuesday, March 29, 2005 11:54 AM
  Subject: Re: [emax] Differences: Emax & Emax II


  AT LAST!!!!
  A great answer to this question.
  Sorry if I sounded condescending........I've heard I'm
  hard to work with sometimes...........maybe it's true.
  I'ld love to hear more passionate discussion from this
  group and feel free to let me have it if I sound
  condescending.........it's really directed at not
  hearing the "why" that goes along with opinions that
  are expressed.  That's the part that expands all of
  our understanding. 
  Thanks for taking the time to give a detailed "why".
  Dave


  ---------------------------------
  The filters, the A/D D/A converters, the way stuff
  sounds when you put it in there, the way it breaks up
  beautifully when you tune a 10KHz sample down
  ridiculously, the VCA's, the sound so close to an
  SP-1200 (great sound reputation, just ask the warner
  brothers ;) 

  In short, magic.  I was saying that the emax would be
  a good addition to a emax II.  They were engineered
  very differently, and it is audible, and I'm sure they
  would complement each other, especially if available
  cheap.  Are you saying an emax is not a good addition
  to a setup with an emax II?  Cuz that was the
  question, do you have to be so condescending about a
  different opinion?

  I also said the way it sits in a mix, not that it sits
  in a mix, anything can be made to sit or strapped
  down, but the way the emax does it is very unique, the
  contrast with acoustic and analog sounds is just
  great, it's like Dr. Who magic.

  The Emax II is far less interesting to me, but still
  good, great digital filters, they sound very good, but
  it is just not interesting enough for me, It delivers
  different things than the emax, things that don't
  interest me, but might interest you.  I also have an
  S6000 sampler, and it is far less interesting to me
  compared to the emax, even with all the FX and filter
  types available.  I like my samplers to have
  character, to give something more back than what I put
  into it.  I find 12 bit samplers do this more for my
  tastes, then again, I am not trying to play it like a
  piano, There are other things for that, like pianos ;)
  but it depends what you're going for.

  The Emax just does that for me, I am getting deeper
  and deeper into what it can do, and I don't  think
  I'll run out soon.  I embrace aliasing, and am not a
  techno guy, but I try to hear music in what others may
  not be able to, that's my thing, I love it in my music
  and I love searching for it.  With the emax, it is
  easy to find and more rewarding than I expected.  I am
  a musician too, but I know my tools  inside and out,
  it helps me get more out of them.

  Two WB albums?  I'd love to hear them, I'm glad stuff
  with old samplers is still being released!


    ----- Original Message ----- 
    From: JUDITH DEHART 
    To: emax@yahoogroups.com 
    Sent: Tuesday, March 29, 2005 1:36 AM
    Subject: Re: [emax] Differences: Emax & Emax II


    How does that "twelve bit beauty" add better
  character
    to the sound?  I guess I'll call Warner Bros and
  tell
    them it's time to re-record the last two albums so
  my
    keys will "sit" in the mix.
    I don't hear this magic difference that you do
  between
    Emax I and II...........I do hear a difference
  between
    Emax (I or II) and my EMU Ultras................The
    Ultras can sound a bit cold..(on some samples).
    Help me out understanding what the difference is. 
  If
    your talking differences in filters or
    what.?...........No offense........we all love
    Emax.....but I've used both and like Emax
    keyboards....period.
    I'm a musician, not a techno detail guy, maybe I
  just
    don't get it.
    Share the magic.............
    Dave


    ---------------------------------
    Yes, magic!!!!

    That 12 bit beauty that adds great character to any
    sound sampled, makes everything more musical, and
  has
    a great way of sitting in a mix while still sounding
    big.

    The rack is ideal, the best one to get is a SE HD
  with
    the corresponding panel graphics, then you can even
    add external scsi and have a zip drive, but I don't
    use too many of the SE features, so a regular emax
  is
    cool too if the price is right.


      ----- Original Message ----- 
      From: ~*~Amber~*~ 
      To: emax@yahoogroups.com 
      Sent: Monday, March 28, 2005 5:46 PM
      Subject: [emax] Differences: Emax & Emax II



      I was wondering what the major differences are
    between the original 
      Emax and the Emax II, aside from the Emax II being
    an upgraded
      version 
      of the Emax.  I ask because I already have an Emax
    II keyboard, and 
      have the opportunity to purchase a rack mount
  Emax,
    and I'd like to 
      know if picking up the Emax is worth my while,
  like
    if it possesses 
      features the Emax II doesn't.





      Emax and Emax II User's Group Website

      http://www.silveriafamily.com 


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