----- Original Message -----
From: Johnny Tomasello
To: emax@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Tuesday, November 29, 2011 9:21 PM
Subject: Re: [emax] Just got my mac classic II
Yeah, I've tried to boot without the floppy in the drive, but it won't look to the external SCSI Zip. I tested my MPC 3000's CF reader (spyrus) set ti SCSI ID 0, with the Emax, but it didn't work.
I'll have to contact Ted about the cards.
Thanks, everyone, for your input.
Sent from my iPhone
On Nov 29, 2011, at 4:05 PM, "jammie" <jammie.emma@...> wrote:
> i know that in the emax sehd os that it only saw scsi id0 and would only boot and save and load from scsi id0 but i thuoght that the plus os you were able to choose any scsi and load from it do you try and load with no floppy disk in
>
> as if you leavre floppy disk in it will always boot from that first unless it has no os and then it will boot from scsi
>
> i have cf drives in mine so i have never used external drives
>
> and before that i had a miniscribe 20mb drive that came with the unit
>
> and also a ez135 drive by syquest that was a good drive and
> and could be set to any scsi id
>
> the scsi to atapi cards from ted and a ide zip 100 drive in an external case would work as they are able to set to scsi id 0
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Johnny Tomasello
> To: emax@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Tuesday, November 29, 2011 8:06 PM
> Subject: Re: [emax] Just got my mac classic II
>
> Thanks for the info. And forgive me if any of this is redundant.
>
> I have done all of that - format, copy OS from floppy using the Plus OS, downloaded the addendum - but it still won't boot or even try to load the OS for editing from the SCSI drive.
>
> Is there a step I'm missing? Something that tells the unit to look to the SCSI device for the OS? I can tell the Emax to look to whichever SCSI ID with the Plus transpose SCSI ID selection feature. But so far, it only seems to work for saving and loading. I know I've read somewhere that the Emax (it's the first Emax, not the 2) can only boot from SCSI ID 0. I would like for that to be untrue. Otherwise, I'll have to go ahead with the SD card upgrade. Which is fine. But is down toward the bottom of the list at this point.
>
> Thanks again for all the info, and any further advice.
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On Nov 29, 2011, at 2:14 PM, "jammie" <jammie.emma@...> wrote:
>
> > hd plus
> >
> > you need to go into special 0
> >
> > then go to format scsi drive make sure you set the transpose button to scsi 5 id for the zip
> >
> > then press yes it will then say os from hd use the yes no buttons to set to floppy it will use the floppy for the os
> >
> > the press enter button it will say all memeory will be arrased
> >
> > press yes
> >
> > then it will load the os into the internal memory
> >
> > then it will say all data on scsi disk will be arrased press yes it will format the disk and add the os it takes about 4 seconds to format and put os on
> >
> > you need to download the addendum scsi pdf
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: Johnny Tomasello
> > To: emax@yahoogroups.com
> > Sent: Tuesday, November 29, 2011 5:28 PM
> > Subject: Re: [emax] Just got my mac classic II
> >
> > I'm a bit confused on the first bit of advice in your email, you said to use the Plus OS first, then said not to use it, but the SEHD OS instead.
> >
> > I'm using the Plus OS on my Emax SE, which I upgraded to have SCSI. The Plus OS allows me to change the SCSI ID to 5 or 6 to accommodate the external Zip, but whenever I try to use a different part of the OS, it still looks to the floppy. I've tried saving the OS to the Zip, without luck.
> >
> > Is there a specific method to saving the OS to Zip that I may be doing wrong? And also, one more time, which OS should I be using, HD Plus, or SEHD?
> >
> > Sent from my iPhone
> >
> > On Nov 29, 2011, at 12:15 PM, "jammie" <jammie.emma@...> wrote:
> >
> > > you need the plus os then you can set the drive for scsi id 5 which is what the external zip termination is set to
> > >
> > > then you will be able to load os from it just save the settings with the os to the zip drive and then it will load from that zip drive you must be using the sehd os and not the plus os
> > >
> > > best and easiest options is emxp and a pc and the rs usb transfer unit dont need the sd2 then but you will have to do the presets in the machine
> > >
> > > sd2 is good for creating the whole bank and presets and dumping thewhole bank file to the emax its the only way other than dumping the emax banks by the usb divice
> > >
> > > i also use turbo synth and soft synth which does the spectral synthesis
> > >
> > > but the best machine for spectral synthesis is the old 8bit and 16bit version of the fairlight as it showed the waveform as wavetable 3d view of each cycle and you could set a single cycle wave at the end and morph to that cycle
> > >
> > > and its still the only machine to do it and the ppg waveterm
> > >
> > > and the waldorf wave can do it
> > >
> > > 2 of my best kept synths along with my EII EIII
> > >
> > > my korg dss1 with 24mb upgrade and usb drive
> > >
> > > my korg t1and t3ex and the dsm1 sampler that i add extra pcm waveforms to
> > >
> > > my roland samplers that are just great
> > >
> > > and the kawai k5m and k5000r just amazing
> > >
> > > and my sy99 and the single cycle waveforms and fm modulation by the samples nothing like it in hardware or software
> > >
> > > i love the hardware and never sold it i use the software
> > >
> > > but what is great is just turning on a synth and start playing straight away with out waiting for it to load up a long time os
> > >
> > > and changing presets at a blink of an eye un like softsynths that can have massive delays
> > >
> > > on my sy99 i can load up 64 patche press a button and im playing that patch pess another button and im playing the next patch as quick as that
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: Johnny Tomasello
> > > To: emax@yahoogroups.com
> > > Sent: Tuesday, November 29, 2011 4:34 PM
> > > Subject: Re: [emax] Just got my mac classic II
> > >
> > > I'm using MIDI sample dump, I haven't tried the 422 connection yet, because I don't have the cable, and haven't set aside time to build a proper one.
> > >
> > > After replacing the backlight in the Emax, and adding a new mother board with the SCSI connection, testing that and getting it working, only to find I couldn't load the OS from any SCSI ID besides 0 (making my external Zip just a sound storage medium - not what I really wanted from the upgrade - you know how excruciating it is editing on the Emax while loading the OS from floppy) I got a bit tired of building, repairing, and testing this machine. I'll go back to it and work out the slim floppy and CF card options, as well as the 422 and transfer stuff, but, wow, I needed to get some actual music done too.
> > >
> > > That's all in addition to new backlight for the s950, s1100, and SP12 (and all new sliders) and the the OS update and pad replacements for the Sequential 440. And an entire studio rewire.
> > >
> > > For the last couple of months, I've had the best maintained, lowest production output studio of my entire life.
> > >
> > > This is what I went through before Thanksgiving:
> > >
> > > http://hifidesign.net/POST/STUDIO_REWIRE.gif
> > >
> > > Sent from my iPhone
> > >
> > > On Nov 29, 2011, at 11:05 AM, Francis Cote <francis.cote@...> wrote:
> > >
> > > > You are right. OS 9 enabled to bridge between the two.
> > > >
> > > > Seriously, removing half a functionality which disables backward
> > > > compatibility for no apparent reason is really stupid. I haven't updated my
> > > > MBP to Lion yet because I have more and more of a back taste of the Apple
> > > > control over everything. I got an Android phone for that reason (and I'm a
> > > > Java developer). If I can't do what I want with the machines I buy, then
> > > > there is a problem.
> > > > Anyways! That's a whole other subject.
> > > >
> > > > Back to the subject at hand. I had searched for ways to transfer the files
> > > > and it's just complicated (for the above reasons). The easiest, I think,
> > > > will be FTP. The other file sharing protocols are either not supported or
> > > > has changed.
> > > >
> > > > As for Alchemy, I haven't tried enough of both to compare. My music
> > > > equipment is piled up in a corner of the basement because I have to fix a
> > > > few things in the house. I got the Quadra by chance on local adds. Then I
> > > > just made sure it worked and that I could use the softwares.
> > > >
> > > > Why is the transfer so slow? Are you using MIDI sample dump or the RS422
> > > > connection?
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > On Tue, Nov 29, 2011 at 10:34 AM, Johnny Tomasello <johnny@...>wrote:
> > > >
> > > >> **
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >> And also, thanks for the effort updating the group on the Mac pipeline.
> > > >> It's getting a bit difficult to keep up with all of the functionality I'm
> > > >> losing with each successive Mac OS update. The next update after Lion, I'm
> > > >> afraid will only allow for things people will want to do on their iPhones.
> > > >>
> > > >> I've heard rumors that they're discontinuing the Mac Pro towers. They
> > > >> haven't updated the machines for well over a year...
> > > >>
> > > >> Sent from my iPhone - of course.
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >> On Nov 29, 2011, at 9:52 AM, Francis Cote <francis.cote@...> wrote:
> > > >>
> > > >>> What are your other machines?
> > > >>>
> > > >>> I got a Quadra 700 lately with OS 7.1. I used a Zip disk to do it. BUT,
> > > >> it
> > > >>> took 3 machines... Please don't laugh, but on the moment, it was what I
> > > >>> found to work. So here is the chain...
> > > >>>
> > > >>> Downloaded everything on my MBP running Snow Leopard. (My original plan
> > > >> was
> > > >>> to use SheepShave, but for some reason it won't start anymore.)
> > > >>>
> > > >>> Formated the zip disk on the Quadra. When I was doing it on the Powerbook
> > > >>> Wallstreet with OS 9, the Quadra couldn't read it. My wallstree has an
> > > >>> internal VST Zip drive, and I have a PCMCIA CompactFlash in it.
> > > >>>
> > > >>> So I transfered the files from the MBP on a CompactFlash.
> > > >>> Then copied the files from the CF to the Zip disk with the PB G3.
> > > >>> Then I read the files on the Quadra from the Zip disk.
> > > >>>
> > > >>> Complicated a bit, yes. But I'm getting an Ethernet adapter for the
> > > >> Quadra,
> > > >>> then I'll probably setup an FTP server, since we can't rely on either SMB
> > > >>> or Appel Share protocols.
> > > >>>
> > > >>> Point is... If you have a functional Sheep Shaver, I think it should
> > > >> work.
> > > >>> I stopped f'ing around with it after 30 min, and my kitchen table looked
> > > >>> really cool with 3 generations of Macs running at the same time, and I
> > > >> had
> > > >>> I sort of fun after all! I had taken a day off. It was also the day of my
> > > >>> divorce when my wife arrived home... lol
> > > >>>
> > > >>>
> > > >>>
> > > >>> On Tue, Nov 29, 2011 at 7:45 AM, Johnny Tomasello <johnny@...
> > > >>> wrote:
> > > >>>
> > > >>>> **
> > > >>
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>> I'd actually like to know the answer to this as well. Ever since Mac OS
> > > >>>> Snow Leopard they've disabled copying to (but not from) disks formatted
> > > >> on
> > > >>>> older systems. I've tried SCSI as well as floppy, without luck. The only
> > > >>>> thing I could get to work was formatting the disk as an old PC format,
> > > >> but
> > > >>>> then the older Mac truncates the files to 8 letter names with 3 letter
> > > >>>> extensions.
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>> It did used to be as easy as formatting the disk and putting it in the
> > > >> new
> > > >>>> Mac to transfer files. I haven't tried Ethernet, but there's no reason
> > > >> to
> > > >>>> think that would work either.
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>> Sent from my iPhone
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>> On Nov 29, 2011, at 1:39 AM, "jdchevallier" <joel.chevallier@...>
> > > >>>> wrote:
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>>> 30 dollars on craigslist...not too shabby!
> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>> I realize this has likely been covered on the forums, but I've done
> > > >> some
> > > >>>> searching to no avail, so...
> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>> How do get the Sound Designer files or Alchemy onto disks? I've tried
> > > >>>> formatting a floppy in the Mac Classic and then throwing it into my USB
> > > >>>> drive on my new mac...gues that would be too easy.
> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>> If anyone can give me some direction, or even point me to where this
> > > >>>> question has been answered on the forums previously I'd truly
> > > >> appreciate it.
> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>> Thanks guys!
> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>> joel
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