Lori-
No, you can use the HD OS for use with SCSI interface on an internal CF
reader.
If you have one of the blue Zip drives, you cannot boot from it- it is not
SCSI ID 0, it is probably ID 5 or ID 6.
A CF reader allows you to boot the Emax from it like a HD without using the
floppy anymore as it can be set to ID0, basically truly replacing a HD.
The whole feature of PLUS 1.0 OS is to allow access of SCSI ID other than 0.
Please see my website for further detail about CF readers
http://djtbs1.wordpress.com/2010/10/04/some-install-related-pics/#
Also- with EMXP you can make a PLUS 1.0 disk pretty easy.
Format a disk in Emax with current OS.
Go to PC, and using EMXP write the OS.
-or-
If you have DOS (files available on the group I do believe), you can do it
this way without all the OmniFlop stuff...
1) Format a floppy in Emax
2) Boot PC from DOS floppy (or DOS partition, which is what I have on my PC)
3) Using EMXUTIL (also available on the group- put it on a floppy)
Start EMXUTIL and create the OS disk from the PLUS 1.0 OS on the group.
This is how I create my SE Update disks when people send me their logic
boards to get SCSI installed and don't have SE....
Regards,
Ted
On Fri, Sep 14, 2012 at 9:21 PM, loricruzer <loricruzer@...> wrote:
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>
> Hi MAP,
>
> Thanks so much for taking time to address my situation.
>
> No, I have not recieved any further assistance.
>
> I called a computer tech friend, we set up 'Team Viewer' to network the
> pc's and walked through it. Loaded Omniflop, then were in the process of
> loading EMXP. We left off with having to format some sub files, then ran
> out of time. Now that he knows what I need, he will go through the process
> and then hook up and walk me through it.
>
> To be honest with you, I really am not interested in EMXP at all at this
> point. Perhaps later, but for now I just need a floppy with the Emax SE
> Plus 1.0 OS to support the SCSI interface. That will enable me to use the
> Zip drive for the Emax 1 library that I purchased on zip disks. That is my
> dilemna.
>
> I can make a copy of my current OS 1.1 in a few seconds and drop in the
> mail tomorrow at a nominal cost. I was hoping that one of the group members
> might do that for me.
>
> So, thanks for the links for the floppy samples. I'll check it out, if I
> can buy one of their floppys with OS 1.0 , I'm good.
>
> I do have the correct high quality DS/DD disks, nos sealed.
>
> Again, I only need to use the Zip drive because I have the Emax 1 original
> sound library on zip disks. I don't know how a CF card reader works,
> wouldn't I still need the SCSI interface, and therefore would also need the
> 1.0 OS floppy to recognize it ?
>
> I'll work on the pix of the Emax SE Plus.
>
>
> Regards,
> Lori
>
> --- In emax@yahoogroups.com, "Michael Padilla" <mpadilla@...> wrote:
> >
> > Hi, I don't know if you've received further assistance from our esteemed
> group. You will find that this group includes several of the de facto
> authorities on keeping these musical instruments preserved (not me!).
> >
> > If you don't want to spend time trying to get the EMXP programme to
> work, you may want to just consider buying new floppy disk samples from one
> of the long-established sample vendors, such as kidnepro.com or
> northstarsamples.com (both of whom I have purchased samples from since
> the 80s). I expect that they can ship their samples loaded with the Emax
> Plus 1.0 software (I would confirm that with each of them first). Remember
> that the floppy disks that the Emax requires are the harder-to-find
> double-sided, double-density disks (DS/DD), which both of those vendors
> have. No, I have nothing to do with either vendor, just a past customer.
> >
> > Others here may be able to speak more fully to storage on a ZIP drive
> via SCSI, but since your Emax PLUS has the SCSI port built in, you may wish
> to consider getting a SCSI CF card reader, which is quicker and more
> reliable. Much has been written on that subject in the archives for this
> group.
> >
> > Speaking of the Emax Plus, that is a quite rare machine, and I've only
> happened across a handful of them since purchasing my Emax SE (rev 2) new
> in '87. It would be great (to further document this variation of Emax) if
> you could upload a picture(s) of the front panel (or email me a picture).
> The keyboard version in particular had at least two different known
> variations in the panel graphics.
> >
> > Congratulations on getting what I consider a still unique and rewarding
> musical instrument. Best wishes.
> >
> > MAP
> >
> >
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: loricruzer
> > To: emax@yahoogroups.com
> > Sent: Monday, September 10, 2012 9:22 PM
> > Subject: [emax] Re: Emax SE Plus (non HD) Need OS 1.0 to support SCSI
> >
> >
> >
> > Hi,
> >
> > I downloaded the EMXP on my pc and read through it, at least as far as I
> could get before meltdown. If I understand correctly, I have to download
> the Omniflop then the EMXP then go from there.
> > The problem is that we have two pc's and two laptops here but the only
> one with a floppy drive is not my personal computer.
> >
> > I can see that if I want to really use the features of EMXP, then I'll
> have to buy an extra pc with XP and an internal floppy drive.
> >
> > At this point , I just need the 1.0 OS for Emax SE Plus on floppy so
> that I can at least access the sound library that I purchased on Zip 100
> disks.
> >
> > Maybe someone in the user group has one or may be willing to make one
> for me and send it. I would be more than happy to pay for the material,
> time, energy, and postage for it.
> >
> > Again, I'm new here,and I'm not sure how this works or if it's even ok
> to ask if anyone can just sell me the correct OS disk ?
> >
> > I plan to keep this unit, so I'll be looking to eventually buy another
> PC with the correct system just for the Emax. Too bad I can't use my
> laptop, but according to EMXP, the pc has to have an 'internal' floppy
> drive.
> >
> > Anyway, I'm thinking that a lot of group members will see this, maybe
> someone can supply the disk ? The only thing is that I can't post my
> personal info. here so they will have to email me direct.
> >
> > loricruzer@...
> >
> > I would really appreciate the help.
> >
> > Regards,
> > Lori
>
> >
> > --- In emax@yahoogroups.com, Ted Summers <djtbs1@> wrote:
> > >
> > > Emax PLUS OS rev 4.0 is for use with the EmuSer Serial interface box.
> > > It SHOULD work, but as I don't have the EmuSer box, I use the PLUS OS
> 1.0.
> > >
> > > PLUS OS 1.0 will work even if you don't have an internal HD.
> > >
> > > Read the EMXP for instructions how to use the program.
> > > It is a menu option in the program to write an OS to a disk.
> > >
> > >
> > > On Sep 10, 2012, at 5:41 PM, loricruzer wrote:
> > >
> > >
> > > Hi,
> > > I went to the EMXP site and there is listed under Emax , the Emax Plus
> 1.0 OS (upgraded rev. 4.0) . Is that the one I should use ? In my previous
> post, I was referring to the User Group's Files where they have one that is
> 'Emax SE Plus HD' ? Which should I use, are they the same ? I read on EMXP
> that the OS listed there is enhanced. There is also a disclaimer for usage
> , which is probably just a matter of protocol.
> > >
> > > Please advise.
> > >
> > > Thanks again for your help,
> > > LC
> > > --- In emax@yahoogroups.com, "loricruzer" <loricruzer@> wrote:
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Hi,
> > > > Thanks for answering my questions. I'm not quite clear on which file
> to choose, I only saw the 1.0 OS for Emax SE Plus HD. My Emax does not have
> an internal HD. Is it ok to use the 1.0 OS for the HD model, are they the
> same ?
> > > >
> > > > Also; #2. Write OS image with EMXP .
> > > > I've been to their site and read through some things, but I am not
> at this point smart enough to implement EMXP. Maybe you could advise me how
> to 'Write OS image with EMXP' ?
> > > >
> > > > Thanks for the knob info. , the machine is beautiful, but the
> missing knob bugs me. I'll try to order from them.
> > > >
> > > > Regards,
> > > > LC
> > > > --- In emax@yahoogroups.com, Ted Summers <djtbs1@> wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > Yes, PLUS OS 1.0 is the right OS.
> > > > > I haven't had any problem with any files from files section on the
> group.
> > > > > Sounds like TrendMicro is giving you a false positive.
> > > > >
> > > > > 1) Format a disk in Emax unit
> > > > > 2) Write OS image with EMXP
> > > > > 3) Boot Emax with the new unit.
> > > > > 4) Verify holding "Transpose" shows you a SCSI ID so you could
> select an external drive ID 1 besides 0
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > The black caps you can get from EPR Electronics.
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > On Sep 10, 2012, at 3:35 PM, loricruzer wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > Hi Everyone,
> > > > > I am new to the site and would like to know if anyone can help
> with my Emax SE Plus (non HD) keyboard ?
> > > > > I purchased the unit super clean, but no OS disk. So I purchased
> an OS disk that was for an Emax SE rev. 1.1 and the unit worked. The next
> thing is that I purchased an Emax library on zip 100 disks. When I hooked
> up the Zip drive, it wouldn't work. I read through this forum and realized
> that I actually have a model 2100 Emax SE Plus with SCSI (non HD version).
> The 'Plus' decal is gone.
> > > > >
> > > > > So, from what I've read here, I need the OS that supports the SCSI
> feature. That is the 1.0 OS for Emax SE Plus ? Is that the same one as the
> one in the files section marked Emax SE Plus HD ? Can anyone direct me to ,
> or can provide the correct OS for my Emax ? I would need the simple method,
> download it, then burn it to floppy. I only have one pc here that has a
> floppy drive, it's running XP Pro. I really am not up to par with the EMXP
> stuff, but I do plan to get there. At this point, I just want to get the
> SCSI drive and the Zip drive up and running to have some sounds. I did try
> sampling one of my other synths into the Emax, worked great although I am a
> complete novice at sampling, I'll learn as I go.
> > > > > Also, when I tried to access any of the files, my Trend Micro
> flags it all as 'Dangerous Page'. Is that normal ?
> > > > > Last of all, the unit I purchased is super clean, however it is
> missing one of the little black slider caps for the volume. Does anyone
> have one for sale ?
> > > > > Long post, thanks for the patience. Any advice would be
> appreciated.
> > > > >
> > > > > Regards,
> > > > > LC
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