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Re: [exs] EXS24 Improvements desired

2001-04-13 by Jos Jansen - Big Orange Music

I totally agree on all points. Especially point nr. 1. The whole advantage
of the EXS is the incredible speed you have when working with it. When it is
scanning all instruments (yes, I have 10.000 instruments also) you loose a
lot of time.
Maybe a good solution for this problem is only to scan the instruments at
the startup of logic, or maybay when starting up a new song. Tnhat would
help alot.

Another point: when I use the key command: Backup all USED samples, it works
great, but it would be very nice if there would be the possibillity to
append to to this backup. In other words: when you've already backed up your
instruments and samples you should be able to only save the changes of you
song in the same folder that you used to backup your files. Now, everytime I
choose to backup my used samples in a logic session it wants me to create a
new folder (with a new name) and it is backing up what was already there.

Compare it to the function in Sounddiver: "Append to library" Only the new
files are backed up and the doubles can be deleted if you wish.

I ralso really agree with point nr 2 as written below. When you are editing
an instrument youy should be able to hear it, even when it is not selected
in the arrange.

Anyway, emagic thanks for this  great product, and hope you can fix these
(big) things.

Jos

From: onelist@...
Reply-To: exs-users@yahoogroups.com
Date: Thu, 12 Apr 2001 20:29:25 -0000
To: exs-users@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [exs] EXS24 Improvements desired


I am happy with the latest version of the EXS24 but I have 4 wishes
for improvement... I sincerely hope that the Developers at Emagic
read this list....

1. I have over 10,000 instruments that are in my sampler instruments
folder. Call me crazy, but I like it this way.  Logic takes about 5
minutes to start up while scanning this folder (on a G4 400). Also,
sometimes in the middle of working, the mouse pointer will turn to an
hourglass and I will be locked out of the program for a few minutes
while it does some thinking... I am a programmer and I would be
willing to bet that the developers are using some kind of iterative
hierarchical data structure (tree) to store all of your instruments
in that neato little flip menu and whenever you do anything that
might change it (like saving a new instrument) it has to re-scan or
traverse that entire tree which is a complete waste of time... One
elegant solution would be to remove the need for pre-scanning (which
I am guessing is a limitation due to the fact that plugins must get
their resources from pre-defined folders) and replace the flip menu
with a standard Mac OS dialog that allowed you to load the instrument
from anywhere on your hard drive, CD roms, etc...

2. When editing an instrument, pressing a key on the keyboard should
play that instrument, whether you are on the right track in the
arrange or not... just my opinion.... Also it would be nice to be
able to audition the instruments from the "open" dialog (if we ever
get one) without having to load them...

3. (Artistic request - hence most important) On the topic of VELOCITY
ZONES.  Ok, so as of this moment they allow you to set
velocity "windows" for zones and groups, which is ok, but they can do
better.  For example, if you have zones with overlapping velocity
windows then when velocity is in that overlap area, the zones should
be mixed together... as it is right now, it seems one arbitrarily
plays over the other, probably in reverse zone order....  The ideal
situation would be one in which you didn't even have to specify these
zones, but could just say "OK here's the three samples for this key
range, crossfade inbetween them as I play harder".  In reality,
instruments don't "switch" between loud and soft tones, they FADE
from one to the other... actually, it's more like they MORPH, but I
would accept FADING.

4. get rid of hard coded limitations... for example, there is no way
to have a sound get softer as you play harder.  Sample start point
can't be set to move closer to the beginning of the file as you play
softer etc... there are probably 10 other artificial constraints like
this that seem arbitrary and pointless...

Thanks for making a great product, and I hope my voice is heard when
developing the next revision... Thanks!!!


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