EXS 24 Logic Sampler Users Group

You obviously don't do much of your own kit building. That's cool. I guess
the EXS24 isn't useful for you in that case.

> From: roman pirie <romanp@...>
> Reply-To: exs-users@yahoogroups.com
> Date: Fri, 11 Jan 2002 23:06:51 +1300
> To: <exs-users@yahoogroups.com>
> Subject: Re: [exs] Can EXS24 replace a hardware sampler loaded with CDROM's???
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>>> This is an interesting point for me. I have been told by many akai listers
>>> that loading a sampler up with CDROMs will kill any sound module. Well I can
>>> honestly say that with over 100 CDROMS and my EXS24 and 360Mgs of RAM, I
>>> never use the EXS24 for sounds. I use my 32Mgs Korg TR-Rack and my Nord Lead
>>> 2.
>>> 
>> You have to use the machines for the things they're meant for. You can't
>> expect EXS to replace a virtual analog synth.
> I do not expect the EXS24 to replace a virtual analog of course. But both
> the TR-Rack and CDROM's in the EXS24 are sample playback of multisamples to
> create usable instruments. Why can't CDROM's sound usable?
>> EXS can replace a sound module IF you have the right CD's that are
>> _well-programmed_.
>> Finding CD's with sounds is easy. Finding well-programmed CD's that
>> makes use of most of the features of a sampler are much harder to find.
> Name some titles please.
> I think you are still referring to the virtual synth comparison. Sample
> playback is not that complicated. I don't think the TR-Rack does anything
> special. The sounds are well produced though.
>> That's where sound modules have an advantage: their ROM soundset is
>> fixed within the synth, which means it only has to be compatible with
>> the synth parameters of that synth. This means a lot of time can be put
>> in programming the sounds to make optimal use of the synth's parameters.
> All the CDROM's I loaded into my CD3000XL (sounded crappy) were only basic
> multisamples. Are there CDrom libraries that use sampler parameters well. I
> didn't think it was that necessary or even used for stuff like pianos. You
> wouldn't really use a filter on most instruments.
>> I have a couple of sample CD's which are great, e.g. I have a CD with
>> guitar sounds that beats any soundmodule. However, I haven't found
>> enough well-programmed sample libraries yet to cover all instruments a
>> sound module covers. So for the time being:
> What titles? Which instruments are covered?
>>> Do I need to go and spend a few thousand on a Roland JV5080 fully loaded to
>>> satisfy my sounds cravings???
>>> 
>> Depending on your needs, this might be the case.
>> 
> I listen to songs old and new and want certain sounds I hear in my sound
> library. Like a piano from a particular reggae song (probably a DX7) or a
> pad etc etc. It would be a dream to be able to buy sample libraries of these
> sounds instead of hunting down and filling up ergonomic studio space with an
> old keyboard. I presume that most of the time having the real thing gives
> you editing potential that having a multisample doesn't give. I'm frustrated
> because my old MS20 sounds really good for fat synth bass but is non midi
> and my Nord Lead 2 is midi but doesn't have the pleasing fat distortion etc.
> Maybe putting the nord through something would help. I could get a kenton
> midi cv thingy. Oops I'm thinking aloud now. Please help me with my sounds
> frustration people....
> What do you guys use for sounds. I couldn't find a useable rhodes sound
> anywhere until I got the EVP88. Apparently the artful dodger 'rewind' song
> used the JV1080 for the rhodes and it is nice IMHO. SHeez how much memory
> does a JV1080 have?
> I crave useable sounds. I still haven't found a way to organise my nords
> edited patches. Soundiver is difficult to learn IMO.
> Grumble.
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