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Re: [exs] Can EXS24 replace a hardware sampler loaded with CDROM's???

2002-01-11 by roman pirie

>> This is an interesting point for me. I have been told by many akai listers
>> that loading a sampler up with CDROMs will kill any sound module. Well I can
>> honestly say that with over 100 CDROMS and my EXS24 and 360Mgs of RAM, I
>> never use the EXS24 for sounds. I use my 32Mgs Korg TR-Rack and my Nord Lead
>> 2.
>> 
> You have to use the machines for the things they're meant for. You can't
> expect EXS to replace a virtual analog synth.
I do not expect the EXS24 to replace a virtual analog of course. But both
the TR-Rack and CDROM's in the EXS24 are sample playback of multisamples to
create usable instruments. Why can't CDROM's sound usable?
> EXS can replace a sound module IF you have the right CD's that are
> _well-programmed_.
> Finding CD's with sounds is easy. Finding well-programmed CD's that
> makes use of most of the features of a sampler are much harder to find.
Name some titles please.
I think you are still referring to the virtual synth comparison. Sample
playback is not that complicated. I don't think the TR-Rack does anything
special. The sounds are well produced though.
> That's where sound modules have an advantage: their ROM soundset is
> fixed within the synth, which means it only has to be compatible with
> the synth parameters of that synth. This means a lot of time can be put
> in programming the sounds to make optimal use of the synth's parameters.
All the CDROM's I loaded into my CD3000XL (sounded crappy) were only basic
multisamples. Are there CDrom libraries that use sampler parameters well. I
didn't think it was that necessary or even used for stuff like pianos. You
wouldn't really use a filter on most instruments.
> I have a couple of sample CD's which are great, e.g. I have a CD with
> guitar sounds that beats any soundmodule. However, I haven't found
> enough well-programmed sample libraries yet to cover all instruments a
> sound module covers. So for the time being:
What titles? Which instruments are covered?
>> Do I need to go and spend a few thousand on a Roland JV5080 fully loaded to
>> satisfy my sounds cravings???
>> 
> Depending on your needs, this might be the case.
> 
I listen to songs old and new and want certain sounds I hear in my sound
library. Like a piano from a particular reggae song (probably a DX7) or a
pad etc etc. It would be a dream to be able to buy sample libraries of these
sounds instead of hunting down and filling up ergonomic studio space with an
old keyboard. I presume that most of the time having the real thing gives
you editing potential that having a multisample doesn't give. I'm frustrated
because my old MS20 sounds really good for fat synth bass but is non midi
and my Nord Lead 2 is midi but doesn't have the pleasing fat distortion etc.
Maybe putting the nord through something would help. I could get a kenton
midi cv thingy. Oops I'm thinking aloud now. Please help me with my sounds
frustration people....
What do you guys use for sounds. I couldn't find a useable rhodes sound
anywhere until I got the EVP88. Apparently the artful dodger 'rewind' song
used the JV1080 for the rhodes and it is nice IMHO. SHeez how much memory
does a JV1080 have?
I crave useable sounds. I still haven't found a way to organise my nords
edited patches. Soundiver is difficult to learn IMO.
Grumble.

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