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Re: [exs] GIGA support?

2002-01-21 by HELP@MusicBootCamp.com

Compaq servers are much better than the consumer client models. I've found
Dell servers to be more stable, but Compaq does a decent job on the server
side. My earlier Compaq comment was a bit rash.

> From: "Richmond, James (James) ** CTR **" <richmondj@...>
> Reply-To: exs-users@yahoogroups.com
> Date: Mon, 21 Jan 2002 15:20:39 -0000
> To: <exs-users@yahoogroups.com>
> Subject: RE: [exs] GIGA support?
> 
> Hiya Ned, 
> 
> Well I have 3 computer desks set up in a U. each desk has 3 tiers.
> Stage Left has two 17 inch monitors attached to my Giga PC, mixing
> console under it with mouse and keyboard under that.
> Stage right are two 15 inch monitors attached to each soft synth PC.
> They have Audiophile 24/96 cards so they have midi and audio taken care
> of by both PC.
> In the middle is my Mac with two 17 inch monitors and space under it for
> 24 channels of Logic Control... (Like get to it already :-) ) when it is
> released.
> 
> yes, it can be a pain to find things at time.
> I am getting good at keeping it all organised...
> 
> Fan noise isnt an issue as I use moderately long cable runs and have all
> the PCs in a Compaq 72 unit server rack that my work was throwing out
> that sits at the back of the studio. I use quiet PC power supplies
> anyway. The only noisy computer is the Mac.
> The whole studio runs off an APS UPS that gives me 40 minutes of power
> in case of a blackput (Work were going to throw that away too)
> It works, it is flexible.
> I know what you are getting at with your point but think of it like
> having standalone hardware samplers/synths but having them attached to
> 17 inch monitors.
> My biggest gripe with it all is I cannot find a way of launching
> multiple instances of Reaktor/softsynths on the one PC.
> My PC's can easily run Reaktor, Pro 52, FM7, B4 all at once, but only
> one instance of each. I dont want to run them in a program shell (ie
> logic as vsti's) but I also dont want to install Reaktor on two PC's and
> I am not licensed to do so even if I wanted to. It is a pain. I am
> always bouncing to disk or capturing soft synth midi tracks to harddisk.
> 
> Logic Mac is still the heart of the studio. I cant trigger anything
> without it. Nothing really crashes. Actually... Nothing crashes except I
> occassionally get asio timing issues when running lots of waves plugs
> but that is common to all methinks.
> 
> One wish is a control surface to control my PC softsynths via the Mac. I
> am hoping I can do it with Logic Control, if not then maybe a Kenton
> device will come and play.
> 
> But a shitlaod easier than trying to edit a real DX7, or my 1080. Yes I
> know there is sound diver, I have it, I dont use it much... this way
> suit my way of working more.
> Having to buy multiple U8's and AMT8's was a major expense but as all
> the M-Audio cards are multi client now I dont have to have multiple
> cards too.
> The biggest expense were the PC's but I managed to cut costs by buying
> just PCU's, RAM and Cases/Power Supplies. All the other bits were either
> bits I had kicking around from previous systems or (in the case of all
> the monitors) bits of hardware they were chucking out when my office
> went flat panel.
> 
> If anyone has 3 x rackmount PC ATX computer cases they want to sell for
> a bargain price, let me know. :-)
> 
> Basically (getting to the point and yes it has been a slow day) the Mac
> does its job of running everything and working, and the PC's do their
> jobs of coming when there master calls....
> 
> FETCH!... arf arf arf... :-)
> 
> James
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Ned Bouhalassa [mailto:ned@...]
> Sent: 21 January 2002 14:55
> To: exs-users@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: Re: [exs] GIGA support?
> 
> 
> Murray,
> 
> Thanks for the get-a-PC-as-second-computer advice,
> but I won't.
> 
> I was wondering though, how do people who use both
> a Mac and a PC manage their work space? I mean,
> aren't we talking double computer keyboards,
> double mice (oh-oh, now which do I click now?),
> double monitors (that's not hard), double MIDI
> interfaces, double storage hierarchical issues
> (where does that ReCycled drum loop B MIDI file go
> again?), figuring out which computer is master,
> double fan noise, double bugs (!!)...
> 
> And then there's the whole issue of how one
> manages to, for eg, compose a piece that use
> strings from the Gigasampler, and a softsynth bass
> line from Absynth on their Mac, both triggered
> from the same Logic sequence, etc. It just seems
> so bloody complicated, no?
> 
> Why not just convince the company, in this case
> GigaStudio, to make a Mac version, or simply make
> EXS support the Giga format?
> 
> My less-than-3-per-cent-of-the-market 2 cents.
> 
> Ned
> 
> Murray McDowall wrote:
> 
>> BTW many Mac users who want to take advantage of that program get a PC
>> built to run it -- you don't need a very expensive box to run it --
> just a
>> PIII, a good sound card and 256 -512 of RAM. It is pretty cheap and
> easy to
>> work with compared to an outboard sampler and of course there are a
> stack
>> of PC only bits of software that you can run on a PC if you have one
> and
>> keep Logic Mac as your main system.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> http://www.nedfx.com
> 
> Ned Bouhalassa
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