EXS 24 Logic Sampler Users Group

Woops, the earlier Compaq comment I was referring to was on the laptop users
group, not this one. So disregard the reference.

> From: <HELP@...>
> Reply-To: exs-users@yahoogroups.com
> Date: Mon, 21 Jan 2002 17:53:07 -0500
> To: <exs-users@yahoogroups.com>
> Subject: Re: [exs] GIGA support?
> 
> Compaq servers are much better than the consumer client models. I've found
> Dell servers to be more stable, but Compaq does a decent job on the server
> side. My earlier Compaq comment was a bit rash.
> 
>> From: "Richmond, James (James) ** CTR **" <richmondj@...>
>> Reply-To: exs-users@yahoogroups.com
>> Date: Mon, 21 Jan 2002 15:20:39 -0000
>> To: <exs-users@yahoogroups.com>
>> Subject: RE: [exs] GIGA support?
>> 
>> Hiya Ned, 
>> 
>> Well I have 3 computer desks set up in a U. each desk has 3 tiers.
>> Stage Left has two 17 inch monitors attached to my Giga PC, mixing
>> console under it with mouse and keyboard under that.
>> Stage right are two 15 inch monitors attached to each soft synth PC.
>> They have Audiophile 24/96 cards so they have midi and audio taken care
>> of by both PC.
>> In the middle is my Mac with two 17 inch monitors and space under it for
>> 24 channels of Logic Control... (Like get to it already :-) ) when it is
>> released.
>> 
>> yes, it can be a pain to find things at time.
>> I am getting good at keeping it all organised...
>> 
>> Fan noise isnt an issue as I use moderately long cable runs and have all
>> the PCs in a Compaq 72 unit server rack that my work was throwing out
>> that sits at the back of the studio. I use quiet PC power supplies
>> anyway. The only noisy computer is the Mac.
>> The whole studio runs off an APS UPS that gives me 40 minutes of power
>> in case of a blackput (Work were going to throw that away too)
>> It works, it is flexible.
>> I know what you are getting at with your point but think of it like
>> having standalone hardware samplers/synths but having them attached to
>> 17 inch monitors.
>> My biggest gripe with it all is I cannot find a way of launching
>> multiple instances of Reaktor/softsynths on the one PC.
>> My PC's can easily run Reaktor, Pro 52, FM7, B4 all at once, but only
>> one instance of each. I dont want to run them in a program shell (ie
>> logic as vsti's) but I also dont want to install Reaktor on two PC's and
>> I am not licensed to do so even if I wanted to. It is a pain. I am
>> always bouncing to disk or capturing soft synth midi tracks to harddisk.
>> 
>> Logic Mac is still the heart of the studio. I cant trigger anything
>> without it. Nothing really crashes. Actually... Nothing crashes except I
>> occassionally get asio timing issues when running lots of waves plugs
>> but that is common to all methinks.
>> 
>> One wish is a control surface to control my PC softsynths via the Mac. I
>> am hoping I can do it with Logic Control, if not then maybe a Kenton
>> device will come and play.
>> 
>> But a shitlaod easier than trying to edit a real DX7, or my 1080. Yes I
>> know there is sound diver, I have it, I dont use it much... this way
>> suit my way of working more.
>> Having to buy multiple U8's and AMT8's was a major expense but as all
>> the M-Audio cards are multi client now I dont have to have multiple
>> cards too.
>> The biggest expense were the PC's but I managed to cut costs by buying
>> just PCU's, RAM and Cases/Power Supplies. All the other bits were either
>> bits I had kicking around from previous systems or (in the case of all
>> the monitors) bits of hardware they were chucking out when my office
>> went flat panel.
>> 
>> If anyone has 3 x rackmount PC ATX computer cases they want to sell for
>> a bargain price, let me know. :-)
>> 
>> Basically (getting to the point and yes it has been a slow day) the Mac
>> does its job of running everything and working, and the PC's do their
>> jobs of coming when there master calls....
>> 
>> FETCH!... arf arf arf... :-)
>> 
>> James
>> 
>> 
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Ned Bouhalassa [mailto:ned@...]
>> Sent: 21 January 2002 14:55
>> To: exs-users@yahoogroups.com
>> Subject: Re: [exs] GIGA support?
>> 
>> 
>> Murray,
>> 
>> Thanks for the get-a-PC-as-second-computer advice,
>> but I won't.
>> 
>> I was wondering though, how do people who use both
>> a Mac and a PC manage their work space? I mean,
>> aren't we talking double computer keyboards,
>> double mice (oh-oh, now which do I click now?),
>> double monitors (that's not hard), double MIDI
>> interfaces, double storage hierarchical issues
>> (where does that ReCycled drum loop B MIDI file go
>> again?), figuring out which computer is master,
>> double fan noise, double bugs (!!)...
>> 
>> And then there's the whole issue of how one
>> manages to, for eg, compose a piece that use
>> strings from the Gigasampler, and a softsynth bass
>> line from Absynth on their Mac, both triggered
>> from the same Logic sequence, etc. It just seems
>> so bloody complicated, no?
>> 
>> Why not just convince the company, in this case
>> GigaStudio, to make a Mac version, or simply make
>> EXS support the Giga format?
>> 
>> My less-than-3-per-cent-of-the-market 2 cents.
>> 
>> Ned
>> 
>> Murray McDowall wrote:
>> 
>>> BTW many Mac users who want to take advantage of that program get a PC
>>> built to run it -- you don't need a very expensive box to run it --
>> just a
>>> PIII, a good sound card and 256 -512 of RAM. It is pretty cheap and
>> easy to
>>> work with compared to an outboard sampler and of course there are a
>> stack
>>> of PC only bits of software that you can run on a PC if you have one
>> and
>>> keep Logic Mac as your main system.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> http://www.nedfx.com
>> 
>> Ned Bouhalassa
>> 
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