EXS 24 Logic Sampler Users Group

I'm not sure how you formed this opinion, since I really haven't offered an
opinion about anything except usage of Translator for client services. I
don't understand your comparison because I am simply acknowledging that
Teddy makes a compelling argument for the use of samples without payment.
You add to this string by pointing out, you must first own the original
recording in order to use it for various types of personal use. It's an
excellent rebuttal to his argument and the kind of thought workout I enjoy
reading on this list. I like what you're saying, but I don't know how you
came to the conclusion that I'm putting forth any kind of argument about
this subject... I haven't really expressed my opinions about it. -Jer (HELP)

> From: "Bjorn Elfstrom" <bjorn@...>
> Organization: Solution 42
> Reply-To: exs-users@yahoogroups.com
> Date: Tue, 12 Feb 2002 11:28:42 +0200
> To: <exs-users@yahoogroups.com>
> Subject: Re: [exs] Re: New patch: Congaloop
> 
> Hmm,
> 
> Seems to me that you ("HELP" & Teddy, primarily) are speaking about apples
> and oranges. AFAI understood Teddy was speaking about lifting samples (vs.
> re-recording them) from published records. Therefore his conclusion that
> it's OK as long as you don't publish it seems valid to me. You have, after
> all, bought the original work and you are allowed to store it on other media
> than the original for *personal* use. This, of course, assuming that you
> *did* buy the legit piece of work in the first place ;-).
> 
> 'HELP' was OTOH speaking about samples specifically made for using in
> compositional work. And here, again AFAI understand, you cross IP
> infringement line the minute you copy, store, or use the stuff (that you
> have not bought the right to use), even it it'd be just for "personal" use.
> 
> So, two very different scenarios there, methinks.
> 
> rgds,
> 
> Björn Elfström
> 
> ['HELP' argued:]
>> Compelling argument, although sample vendors will no doubt disagree. You
> do
>> a good job of articulating a strong argument however. Thanks for your
>> perspective.
> 
> [Teddy argued:]
> 
>>> actually, as far as I know sorenv is right. I am published by EMI and I
> have
>>> to clear all the samples I use on song demos with them. If I use a
> sample in
>>> a song that I lifted I have to list that sample on my song form so EMI
> can
>>> clear it IF IT BECOMES SOMETHING THAT IS GOING TO GET RELEASED. Do you
> think
>>> they clear every sample I used? hell no, that would take too much
> manpower.
>>> They only have to clear them when something's getting released. I also
> doubt
>>> this applies to single shot samples, only phrases longer than 3 or 4
> notes.
> 
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