EXS 24 Logic Sampler Users Group

Please Man....stop making it so complicated. If you release an album with our 
samples combined with others to make a musical work...that's music. If you 
release a sampling CD that from our material, that is licensed to others that 
is theft.

Let's not get into the boring specifics OK. I'd be happy to turn you on to 
numerous copyright attorneys that can explain all the details, case law and 
legal precedents. It's not as gray as you think.

But I agree that this is way off topic and we have beaten this horse beyond 
death!

-EP

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>That's not simple imo.  Really, I'm not making propaganda for any 
>sort of illegal activity here.  I just think that all this copyright 
>& licensing stuff has extremely fuzzy borders -- and that this will 
>never change, no matter how hard everyone tries to protect his/her 
>own work.
>Define "not isolated" for instance.  There's plenty of modern music 
>that has loads of isolated sounds -- a "pling" here and a "ploing" 
>there.  Where is the border between music and non-music?  What 
>percentage of the duration of a piece may consist of isolated sounds 
>before it is no longer "music"???
>Heck, John Cage even wrote a piece consisting of 4'33 of silence -- 
>and now some sod is being sued by Cage's family for copyright 
>infringement on that, since he also recorded a piece of silence or 
>whatever.  If that is not fuzzy, then what is?
>
>>Believe me, we have many more problems with out and out piracy than people
>>trying to do the crazy hypothetical situations everyone is firing at me
>here.
>>The people breaking the law are not so subtle!
>
>Sure, if I wanted to break the law, I would simply burn a copy of 
>your CDs somehow.  Way easier than the hypothetical scenario outlined 
>before.  Still the very fact that there can be no completely 
>clear-cut borders between "theft" and "original work as condoned by 
>the license" is interesting in itself.