EXS 24 Logic Sampler Users Group

--- In exs-users@yahoogroups.com, Hendrik Jan Veenstra 
<h@k...> wrote:
> On a fine day, 18-08-2003, teddybut wrote:
> 
> >  > On a fine day, 17-08-2003, HJV wrote:
> >
> >  > I didn't automate by moving the EXS faders, but by
> >  > hyperdrawing in Arrange.  Still shouldn't make a difference 
though.
> >[...]
> >
> >aha, now it's all starting to make sense. To me, automating 
means you are
> >moving the controls and recording the automation. Hyper 
drawing is Hyper
> >drawing. Ah, modern terminology.
> 
> :-)  Well, to me automating is making the software do 
something 
> automatically that I'd otherwise have to do by hand.  So that 
> includes both 'turning dials' and 'hyperdrawing'.

well ladida for us! hahahaha
I'll give you that one. But it is ambiguous in this context where it 
actually matters.
Apparently you are not into ambiguous-ness, according to the 
below....

> >  > I guess by 'downbeat' you mean bar 1, tick 1, right?
> >
> >yes, old school musician terminology.
> >2, 3, 4, BOOM, it's a downbeat.
> 
> Confusing imo, as every bar has a downbeat, and you 
specifically 
> meant the downbeat of bar 1.  'Bar 1 tick 1' is less ambiguous. 
 But 
> who cares? :-)

exactly, who cares indeed! However, in my language (American 
rock/jazz musician semi English) we can use the word 
"downbeat" for both of those things and because of the context 
we understand whassup. i.e. if i say to my musician friend, "I'm 
going to miss the downbeat of the gig". I mean that I will miss 
the first downbeat of the gig, not every downbeat of every bar. If I 
say, "could we hit the downbeat harder when we get to the 
chorus?" I obviously mean just in that spot, not necesarrily at the 
beginning of the song. there you go, stupid English 101... 
hahaha...

> Weird indeed, esp. since this is the 1st time I encounter a 
parameter 
> that _has_ to have an automation event at the very 1sttick of the 
> song.

I really don't understand that automation behavior, but I can live 
with the consequences.
> 
> Anyway, glad we got this one sorted out alright.
 
me too, whew... thanks for your in depth help.

teddybut