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Translator,the Ugly Truth

2003-10-04 by Jonathan Gibson

Is anyone using Chicken Systems Translator?I have had several 
fascinating adventures with it.Version 2.0 claimed to translate for 
EXS,but did not.Updated to 2.5,which did do EIII,but not EOS.2.7 
worked well for EIII,ok for EOS,but there were many dud 
instruments.2.8 
now features numerous duds for EIII,and EOS derived instruments show 
up in the EXS with the filter turned all the way down to be 
inaudible.I must then redo the filter and often the amp envelope 
manually and re-store the instrument.A particular favorite of mine 
is the loud clicks at loop points in many instruments.The workaround 
has been to go from the Emu formats into Akai,then burn an Akai disc 
image,then use the EXS' own Akai utility(same for Reason NNXT,by the 
way).This has solved most problems,but some clicking loops remain.I 
would be interested to know what other folks think,and what their 
experience with legacy libraries in general has been.In the 
meantime,I breathlessly await the new wonders to be had from the 
next Translator update.

Re: [EXS] Translator,the Ugly Truth

2003-10-04 by Julie Larson

I've had good luck...haven't translated anything you're working 
with...but Chicken Sys has great tech support....write 'em.  My 
experience with that has been terrific.

regards

julie


On Friday, October 3, 2003, at 07:57  PM, Jonathan Gibson wrote:

> Is anyone using Chicken Systems Translator?I have had several
> fascinating adventures with it.Version 2.0 claimed to translate for
> EXS,but did not.Updated to 2.5,which did do EIII,but not EOS.2.7
> worked well for EIII,ok for EOS,but there were many dud
> instruments.2.8
> now features numerous duds for EIII,and EOS derived instruments show
> up in the EXS with the filter turned all the way down to be
> inaudible.I must then redo the filter and often the amp envelope
> manually and re-store the instrument.A particular favorite of mine
> is the loud clicks at loop points in many instruments.The workaround
> has been to go from the Emu formats into Akai,then burn an Akai disc
> image,then use the EXS' own Akai utility(same for Reason NNXT,by the
> way).This has solved most problems,but some clicking loops remain.I
> would be interested to know what other folks think,and what their
> experience with legacy libraries in general has been.In the
> meantime,I breathlessly await the new wonders to be had from the
> next Translator update.
>
>
>
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>
>
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Re: [EXS] Translator

2003-10-04 by Garth Hjelte

At 12:57 AM 10/4/03 +0000, you wrote:

>Version 2.0 claimed to translate for EXS, but did not. Updated to 
>2.5,which did do EIII, but not EOS.

I can't remember that far back - that was 2 years or so ago.

>2.7 worked well for EIII,ok for EOS,but there were many dud instruments. 
>2.8 now features numerous duds for EIII,and EOS derived instruments show 
>up in the EXS with the filter turned all the way down to be inaudible.I 
>must then redo the filter and often the amp envelope manually and re-store 
>the instrument.

2.9 has been out for several months. (This is Windows BTW)

>loud clicks at loop points in many instruments. The workaround has been to 
>go from the Emu formats into Akai,then burn an Akai disc image,then use 
>the EXS' own Akai utility (same for Reason NNXT,by the way). This has 
>solved most problems, but some clicking loops remain.

We'll go through some regressive tests with our test CD's with both E3 and 
EOS stuff, to the EXS-24 format. Feel free to use our Bug Reports page (see 
the manual) to submit anything and we'll look at it, that's probably the 
most effective solution as we can see what you're dealing with. That may 
have been the best solution back then for you instead of the workaround - 
please feel free to call us or email us with any issue.

I do know that we changed our engine to accommodate MarkII stuff back 
around 2.7 and 2.8, that's probably the source of the problems. The Emu 
filters were tricky to table and map, especially since MarkII made 
available a couple more filter algorithms.

Garth Hjelte
Sampler User

Re: [EXS] Translator, the Ugly Truth

2003-10-04 by Bob Vandiver

> I've had good luck...haven't translated anything you're working
> with...but Chicken Sys has great tech support....write 'em.  My
> experience with that has been terrific.
> 
> regards
> 
> julie

You know I really wish I could agree with you about this but I cannot. One
of the supposed features of the Translator web site is a sign-up for a
newsletter. I have signed up more than once but have yet to receive a
newsletter.  One function of a newsletter would be to alert users that a new
version has been posted.

I have also been waiting for the version that would support the EXS II on
the Mac but so far it is not there yet. Or so I think.

I recently looked at the Translator site and noticed that the Mac version
has been ramped up considerably since I last looked but my studio is all
packed up so I cannot install this new version. This of course is my fault
but most software (including Logic) publishes a Readme stating what is added
or fixed in each update. Not Translator.

Bob Vandiver

Re: [EXS] Translator,the Ugly Truth

2003-10-04 by Nikko

Who could trust a company called Chicken System? Are they selling fast food?

Nikko
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----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Julie Larson" <julielarson@...>
To: <exs-users@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Saturday, October 04, 2003 5:27 AM
Subject: Re: [EXS] Translator,the Ugly Truth


I've had good luck...haven't translated anything you're working 
with...but Chicken Sys has great tech support....write 'em.  My 
experience with that has been terrific.

regards

julie


On Friday, October 3, 2003, at 07:57  PM, Jonathan Gibson wrote:

> Is anyone using Chicken Systems Translator?I have had several
> fascinating adventures with it.Version 2.0 claimed to translate for
> EXS,but did not.Updated to 2.5,which did do EIII,but not EOS.2.7
> worked well for EIII,ok for EOS,but there were many dud
> instruments.2.8
> now features numerous duds for EIII,and EOS derived instruments show
> up in the EXS with the filter turned all the way down to be
> inaudible.I must then redo the filter and often the amp envelope
> manually and re-store the instrument.A particular favorite of mine
> is the loud clicks at loop points in many instruments.The workaround
> has been to go from the Emu formats into Akai,then burn an Akai disc
> image,then use the EXS' own Akai utility(same for Reason NNXT,by the
> way).This has solved most problems,but some clicking loops remain.I
> would be interested to know what other folks think,and what their
> experience with legacy libraries in general has been.In the
> meantime,I breathlessly await the new wonders to be had from the
> next Translator update.
>
>
>
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>
>
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Re: [EXS] Translator,the Ugly Truth

2003-10-04 by Hendrik Jan Veenstra

On a fine day, 04-10-2003, Nikko wrote:

>Who could trust a company called Chicken System? Are they selling fast food?

Well, that makes sense, yeah: don't trust a company whose name you find silly.

So, let's see... how about
- digitalfishphones
- steinberg (stone mountain -- what's that got to do with anything?)
- ohmforce
- rumpelrausch
- beatnik
- ragtime (it's a frikin' DTP-package!)
- stairways software (Interarchy)
- zero G software (Limewire)
- etc...

All companies you realy can't trust...
-- 
Hendrik Jan Veenstra   h @ k n o w a r e . n l
Omega Art: http://www.omega-art.com/

Re: [EXS] Translator,the Ugly Truth

2003-10-04 by Colin Shapiro

>- digitalfishphones
>- steinberg (stone mountain -- what's that got to do with anything?)
>- ohmforce
>- rumpelrausch
>- beatnik
>- ragtime (it's a frikin' DTP-package!)
>- stairways software (Interarchy)
>- zero G software (Limewire)
>- etc...
>
>All companies you realy can't trust...

:-)
Not to mention companies named after trickery or fruit:
Emagic, Apple.........

Re: [EXS] Translator,the Ugly Truth

2003-10-04 by Nikko

h\ufffdh\ufffd, you forgot :
Virgin (want to fly high?)
Apple (selling fruits?)
Creamware (haha, who can translate)
Excite (seach what?)
Cubase (in french this means 'base of bud')

well who can tell me why it si called Chicken system? Real Chickens have a
really bad reputation in term of hi-tech, intelligence, and Friendship. In
France we call the cops : chicken :)



----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Hendrik Jan Veenstra" <h@...>
To: <exs-users@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Saturday, October 04, 2003 3:44 PM
Subject: Re: [EXS] Translator,the Ugly Truth


> On a fine day, 04-10-2003, Nikko wrote:
>
> >Who could trust a company called Chicken System? Are they selling fast
food?
>
> Well, that makes sense, yeah: don't trust a company whose name you find
silly.
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>
> So, let's see... how about
> - digitalfishphones
> - steinberg (stone mountain -- what's that got to do with anything?)
> - ohmforce
> - rumpelrausch
> - beatnik
> - ragtime (it's a frikin' DTP-package!)
> - stairways software (Interarchy)
> - zero G software (Limewire)
> - etc...
>
> All companies you realy can't trust...
> -- 
> Hendrik Jan Veenstra   h @ k n o w a r e . n l
> Omega Art: http://www.omega-art.com/
>
>
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Re: [EXS] Translator

2003-10-04 by Nikko

What was the previous name? Pankakes Labs? Nudegets Corp.? BullSharks LLC:)


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Garth Hjelte" <garth@...>
To: <exs-users@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Saturday, October 04, 2003 6:42 PM
Subject: Re: [EXS] Translator


> At 02:52 PM 10/4/03 +0200, you wrote:
>
> >Who could trust a company called Chicken System? Are they selling fast
food?
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>
> Well, if it means anything, it was a step up from our previous name. =)
>
> Garth Hjelte
> Sampler User
>
>
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Re: [EXS] Translator

2003-10-04 by Garth Hjelte

At 02:52 PM 10/4/03 +0200, you wrote:

>Who could trust a company called Chicken System? Are they selling fast food?

Well, if it means anything, it was a step up from our previous name. =)

Garth Hjelte
Sampler User

Re: [EXS] Translator

2003-10-04 by Garth Hjelte

At 12:42 AM 10/4/03 -0700, you wrote:

>One of the supposed features of the Translator web site is a sign-up for a
>newsletter. I have signed up more than once but have yet to receive a
>newsletter.  One function of a newsletter would be to alert users that a new
>version has been posted.

I wouldn't say it's a "feature" of the program, but yes, you're right, they 
haven't been coming out.

>but most software (including Logic) publishes a Readme stating what is added
>or fixed in each update. Not Translator.

No, it's there - on the Mac it even has nice silly capital letters that say 
IMPORTANT. It's sparse on the Mac, though, if that's what you mean.

(We had an awful experience with a piece of software we use, where their 
history files were not accurate and it caused us quite a bit of grief. 
History files are very important.)

If anyone has any questions, you can call us toll-free in the US, 8-5 
Central time anytime, or email us, and we are usually prompt in addressing 
anything. Our apologies in advance if we fall through with anything.

BTW, with the original poster, we dipped into the code a bit last night and 
did some testing (we hadn't done any regressive testing in about 45 days 
with the EXS, so it was good to do. I didn't find any looping issues, that 
must have been related to something else a long time ago. I did find a 
couple things otherwise, and they are fixed and are due up next bat-time 
and channel.

The next Mac build have some significant feature improvements as well, I'll 
announce them when they are released.

Garth Hjelte
Sampler User

Re: [EXS] Translator

2003-10-04 by Garth Hjelte

At 04:58 PM 10/4/03 +0200, you wrote:

>well who can tell me why it IS called Chicken system? Real Chickens have a
>really bad reputation in term of hi-tech, intelligence

Well, I've got to agree with you there. Seen the movie Chicken Run?

>and Friendship.

I was going to say "baloney", but after seeing chickens get along with each 
other, you're right.

The city I live in is home to one of the biggest turkey producers in the 
United States, Jennie-O. (It's the only reason it's on the map. Some of you 
may remember the Jennie-O commercials where they made fun of the City 
(Willmar), Nobody here thought they were funny. But then again, nobody here 
that Fargo was a good movie either.)

When the "toms" (male turkeys) are born, they are debeaked by a microwave 
beam in this little machine. They are debeaked because they'd peck each 
other to death in the barns they are raised in.

(Side note, we wrote software that controls these debeaking machines and 
the reporting mechanisms behind them.)

Seriously, though, in America, where the first thing that comes to mind 
when you say "chicken" is Colonel Sanders, it's a "friendly" term. In the 
South, it's even friendlier.

>> > >Who could trust a company called Chicken System? Are they selling 
>> fast food?
> > Well, if it means anything, it was a step up from our previous name. =)
>What was the previous name? Pankakes Labs? Nudegets Corp.? BullSharks LLC:)

The origination of the name is this: in valiant search of a company name in 
the mid-80's, during which the decade produced a bland assortment of 
creative company and band names, under much study, thought, and 
consideration - all lasting under 30 seconds - we came up with (drum roll) 
"Rubber Chicken Software Co." - featuring "no joke samples." Certainly a 
name that can be trusted with all your valuables and loved ones.

Since then, for a couple reasons, I (me) wanted to get rid of the name due 
to some funny associations that the term "rubber chicken" alludes to that I 
was too naive to realize. (I'm skipping a really funny story about this 
here, for brevity.) However, it was apparent to us that only a small 
minority of persons knew about that association, and the rest (maybe 90%, 
and my associates) loved the name. I even got dates because of it, before I 
was married. (Those are other really funny stories - not the dates - but 
the acquisition of them.)

After 11 years, and during a decade that seemed to spawn more creative 
company and band names, we decided to add a "dba" (doing business as) of 
"Chicken Systems, Inc." (we incorporated)

Now, due to your posts, we'll have to change it yet again. Shoot. =)

Garth Hjelte
Sampler User

Re: Translator,the Ugly Truth

2003-10-04 by Nick Batzdorf

>Who could trust a company called Chicken System? Are they selling fast food?
>
>Nikko

You know, this reminds me of when I saw "film critic" Rex Reed go on 
TV say (in a very annoying effeminate voice): "Who wants to see a $50 
million [gigantic in those days] film about Barbara Streisand dressed 
up as a boy?!" He hadn't even seen 'Yenta.' Whether or not it 
deserved to be the historical bomb it turned out to be, a lot of 
livelihoods were at stake, and he had no right to say that.

Now, you're not Rex Reed (thank goodness), hopefully the people on 
this list aren't bovine enough to hang on other peoples' opinions to 
form their own, and this isn't TV. But I think a little bit of 
sensitivity might go a long way.

Translator Pro does an excellent job in my experience, and Garth is a 
very nice fellow who reads this list all the time and bends over 
backwards to be helpful. He also happens to have a silly sense of 
humor, hence the name.

By all means criticize the product if it deserves it, but don't fling turds.

My opinion.
-- 

Nick Batzdorf
818/905-9101, cell 590-9101, fax 905-5434

Re: [EXS] Translator

2003-10-04 by Nikko

Great answer! I've learned a lot about Chickens now :)
Btw I love BBQ chicken (with south's corn) hehe

Nikko



----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Garth Hjelte" <garth@...>
To: <exs-users@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Saturday, October 04, 2003 8:00 PM
Subject: Re: [EXS] Translator


> At 04:58 PM 10/4/03 +0200, you wrote:
>
> >well who can tell me why it IS called Chicken system? Real Chickens have
a
> >really bad reputation in term of hi-tech, intelligence
>
> Well, I've got to agree with you there. Seen the movie Chicken Run?
>
> >and Friendship.
>
> I was going to say "baloney", but after seeing chickens get along with
each
> other, you're right.
>
> The city I live in is home to one of the biggest turkey producers in the
> United States, Jennie-O. (It's the only reason it's on the map. Some of
you
> may remember the Jennie-O commercials where they made fun of the City
> (Willmar), Nobody here thought they were funny. But then again, nobody
here
> that Fargo was a good movie either.)
>
> When the "toms" (male turkeys) are born, they are debeaked by a microwave
> beam in this little machine. They are debeaked because they'd peck each
> other to death in the barns they are raised in.
>
> (Side note, we wrote software that controls these debeaking machines and
> the reporting mechanisms behind them.)
>
> Seriously, though, in America, where the first thing that comes to mind
> when you say "chicken" is Colonel Sanders, it's a "friendly" term. In the
> South, it's even friendlier.
>
> >> > >Who could trust a company called Chicken System? Are they selling
> >> fast food?
> > > Well, if it means anything, it was a step up from our previous name.
=)
> >What was the previous name? Pankakes Labs? Nudegets Corp.? BullSharks
LLC:)
>
> The origination of the name is this: in valiant search of a company name
in
> the mid-80's, during which the decade produced a bland assortment of
> creative company and band names, under much study, thought, and
> consideration - all lasting under 30 seconds - we came up with (drum roll)
> "Rubber Chicken Software Co." - featuring "no joke samples." Certainly a
> name that can be trusted with all your valuables and loved ones.
>
> Since then, for a couple reasons, I (me) wanted to get rid of the name due
> to some funny associations that the term "rubber chicken" alludes to that
I
> was too naive to realize. (I'm skipping a really funny story about this
> here, for brevity.) However, it was apparent to us that only a small
> minority of persons knew about that association, and the rest (maybe 90%,
> and my associates) loved the name. I even got dates because of it, before
I
Show quoted textHide quoted text
> was married. (Those are other really funny stories - not the dates - but
> the acquisition of them.)
>
> After 11 years, and during a decade that seemed to spawn more creative
> company and band names, we decided to add a "dba" (doing business as) of
> "Chicken Systems, Inc." (we incorporated)
>
> Now, due to your posts, we'll have to change it yet again. Shoot. =)
>
> Garth Hjelte
> Sampler User
>
>
>
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Re: [EXS] Translator

2003-10-04 by Nikko

I was just joking a little bit. Btw I'm sure I was not the only one to ask
myself why Chicken System.
I hope no one was hurt. Humour, was the only purpose...

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Nikko" <nicolas@...>
To: <exs-users@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Saturday, October 04, 2003 9:52 PM
Subject: Re: [EXS] Translator


> Great answer! I've learned a lot about Chickens now :)
> Btw I love BBQ chicken (with south's corn) hehe
>
> Nikko
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Garth Hjelte" <garth@...>
> To: <exs-users@yahoogroups.com>
> Sent: Saturday, October 04, 2003 8:00 PM
> Subject: Re: [EXS] Translator
>
>
> > At 04:58 PM 10/4/03 +0200, you wrote:
> >
> > >well who can tell me why it IS called Chicken system? Real Chickens
have
> a
> > >really bad reputation in term of hi-tech, intelligence
> >
> > Well, I've got to agree with you there. Seen the movie Chicken Run?
> >
> > >and Friendship.
> >
> > I was going to say "baloney", but after seeing chickens get along with
> each
> > other, you're right.
> >
> > The city I live in is home to one of the biggest turkey producers in the
> > United States, Jennie-O. (It's the only reason it's on the map. Some of
> you
> > may remember the Jennie-O commercials where they made fun of the City
> > (Willmar), Nobody here thought they were funny. But then again, nobody
> here
> > that Fargo was a good movie either.)
> >
> > When the "toms" (male turkeys) are born, they are debeaked by a
microwave
> > beam in this little machine. They are debeaked because they'd peck each
> > other to death in the barns they are raised in.
> >
> > (Side note, we wrote software that controls these debeaking machines and
> > the reporting mechanisms behind them.)
> >
> > Seriously, though, in America, where the first thing that comes to mind
> > when you say "chicken" is Colonel Sanders, it's a "friendly" term. In
the
> > South, it's even friendlier.
> >
> > >> > >Who could trust a company called Chicken System? Are they selling
> > >> fast food?
> > > > Well, if it means anything, it was a step up from our previous name.
> =)
> > >What was the previous name? Pankakes Labs? Nudegets Corp.? BullSharks
> LLC:)
> >
> > The origination of the name is this: in valiant search of a company name
> in
> > the mid-80's, during which the decade produced a bland assortment of
> > creative company and band names, under much study, thought, and
> > consideration - all lasting under 30 seconds - we came up with (drum
roll)
> > "Rubber Chicken Software Co." - featuring "no joke samples." Certainly a
> > name that can be trusted with all your valuables and loved ones.
> >
> > Since then, for a couple reasons, I (me) wanted to get rid of the name
due
> > to some funny associations that the term "rubber chicken" alludes to
that
> I
> > was too naive to realize. (I'm skipping a really funny story about this
> > here, for brevity.) However, it was apparent to us that only a small
> > minority of persons knew about that association, and the rest (maybe
90%,
> > and my associates) loved the name. I even got dates because of it,
before
> I
> > was married. (Those are other really funny stories - not the dates - but
> > the acquisition of them.)
> >
> > After 11 years, and during a decade that seemed to spawn more creative
> > company and band names, we decided to add a "dba" (doing business as) of
> > "Chicken Systems, Inc." (we incorporated)
> >
> > Now, due to your posts, we'll have to change it yet again. Shoot. =)
> >
> > Garth Hjelte
> > Sampler User
> >
> >
> >
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Re: [EXS] Translator,the Ugly Truth

2003-10-05 by James Ryan

Garth from Chicken Systems reads and posts to the Logic forum on a pretty regular basis.  He will address this issue if he's aware of it.  I've found in his case that calling him at the tech support number or emailing him directly works wonders in getting things fixed.  He will ask you to email or post to him the file in question with the error log, and they will fix the problem.

James Ryan
A Translator and CDXtract user.
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  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Jonathan Gibson 
  To: exs-users@yahoogroups.com 
  Sent: Friday, October 03, 2003 8:57 PM
  Subject: [EXS] Translator,the Ugly Truth


  Is anyone using Chicken Systems Translator?I have had several 
  fascinating adventures with it.Version 2.0 claimed to translate for 
  EXS,but did not.Updated to 2.5,which did do EIII,but not EOS.2.7 
  worked well for EIII,ok for EOS,but there were many dud 
  instruments.2.8 
  now features numerous duds for EIII,and EOS derived instruments show 
  up in the EXS with the filter turned all the way down to be 
  inaudible.I must then redo the filter and often the amp envelope 
  manually and re-store the instrument.A particular favorite of mine 
  is the loud clicks at loop points in many instruments.The workaround 
  has been to go from the Emu formats into Akai,then burn an Akai disc 
  image,then use the EXS' own Akai utility(same for Reason NNXT,by the 
  way).This has solved most problems,but some clicking loops remain.I 
  would be interested to know what other folks think,and what their 
  experience with legacy libraries in general has been.In the 
  meantime,I breathlessly await the new wonders to be had from the 
  next Translator update. 



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Re: [EXS] Translator,the Ugly Truth

2003-10-05 by James Ryan

Is anyone using Chicken Systems Translator?I have had several 
fascinating adventures with it.Version 2.0 claimed to translate for 
EXS,but did not.

There, see.  I should have waited on the reply.  Garth beat me to the punch in his next post addressing your issues.  They're a pretty good company in my experience.  They respond quickly the way Emagic used to before Apple.

James


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RE: [EXS] Translator

2003-10-07 by Thompson Richard W CIV 60 SVS/SVK

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From: Garth Hjelte [mailto:garth@...m]
Sent: Friday, October 03, 2003 10:06 PM
To: exs-users@yahoogroups.com
Cc: bassballjg@...
Subject: Re: [EXS] Translator


At 12:57 AM 10/4/03 +0000, you wrote:

>Version 2.0 claimed to translate for EXS, but did not. Updated to 
>2.5,which did do EIII, but not EOS.

I can't remember that far back - that was 2 years or so ago.

>2.7 worked well for EIII,ok for EOS,but there were many dud instruments. 
>2.8 now features numerous duds for EIII,and EOS derived instruments show 
>up in the EXS with the filter turned all the way down to be inaudible.I 
>must then redo the filter and often the amp envelope manually and re-store 
>the instrument.

2.9 has been out for several months. (This is Windows BTW)

>loud clicks at loop points in many instruments. The workaround has been to 
>go from the Emu formats into Akai,then burn an Akai disc image,then use 
>the EXS' own Akai utility (same for Reason NNXT,by the way). This has 
>solved most problems, but some clicking loops remain.

We'll go through some regressive tests with our test CD's with both E3 and 
EOS stuff, to the EXS-24 format. Feel free to use our Bug Reports page (see 
the manual) to submit anything and we'll look at it, that's probably the 
most effective solution as we can see what you're dealing with. That may 
have been the best solution back then for you instead of the workaround - 
please feel free to call us or email us with any issue.

I do know that we changed our engine to accommodate MarkII stuff back 
around 2.7 and 2.8, that's probably the source of the problems. The Emu 
filters were tricky to table and map, especially since MarkII made 
available a couple more filter algorithms.

Garth Hjelte
Sampler User



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