EXS 24 Logic Sampler Users Group

Hi there,

I have experienced this a couple of times now and it even ruined one 
of my live shows (fortunately it wasn't a big or important one)

I set up a song with EXS instances, everything plays fine, no 
overloads just perfect. Then I quit logic, reload the song and as 
soon as I try to play a channel with an EXS on it, boom, "Try to save 
your song". Even when I hit play it will do this if there are 
sequences running on an EXS channel.

It is really annoying and I can't really see, why it should be like 
this. The only explanation I could come up with is, that the fact 
that the samples are on a FW drive that is plugged in after my audio 
interface (MobileIO), maybe that's it. Also, disabling virtual memory 
and reloading songs works, but then, aren't I missing a very 
important feature?

Cheers
Hans

I have had the exact same problem with the EXS and crashing with the "try to save 
your song" (which never works, BTW...).
Called Emagic and they suggested I ENABLE virtual memory! Just the opposite of your 
situation...this has not fixed the problem. Very, very annoying and time consuming. I 
have to reload all instruments and samples one by one and then the song will play. 
Anybody?
thanks
Nick Weton

At 23:06 Uhr +0000 11.01.2004, vanstoons wrote:
>Called Emagic and they suggested I ENABLE virtual memory! Just the 
>opposite of your
>situation...this has not fixed the problem. Very, very annoying and 
>time consuming. I
>have to reload all instruments and samples one by one and then the 
>song will play.
>Anybody?

Come on, are we the only two people that this happens to? I can't 
believe that! Speak up, if it is indeed something that happens to 
more, maybe we can get it fixed sooner.

Cheers
Hans

Happens to me often. Logic and the whole computer will lockup ...sometimes
if I walk away for a few minutes, requiring forced power off and reboot. I
practice months of advice (repair permissions, crons, current drivers, no
internet/Airport, screen saving, keyboard lighting etc., etc..... to little
avail.

PB G4/1G ram/10.3.2/LAP 6.3.2/ Multiface/LaCie FW 800.

Craig

On 1/12/04 7:49 PM, "Hans Hafner" <hanshafner@...> wrote:

> Come on, are we the only two people that this happens to? I can't
> believe that! Speak up, if it is indeed something that happens to
> more, maybe we can get it fixed sooner.
> 
> Cheers
> Hans
>

> Happens to me often. Logic and the whole computer will lockup ...sometimes
> if I walk away for a few minutes, requiring forced power off and reboot. I
> practice months of advice (repair permissions, crons, current drivers, no
> internet/Airport, screen saving, keyboard lighting etc., etc..... to little
> avail.
> 
> PB G4/1G ram/10.3.2/LAP 6.3.2/ Multiface/LaCie FW 800.
> 
> Craig

none of those solutions will work because the problem is in the Logic.

Emagic knows it's software is a bugfest right now. I bet they are out there
in Cupertino right now working on fixing all the bugs and updating the GUI
to look like something fun. With all the help they must be getting from
Apple, I bet they also have time to work in a couple of new Audio
Instruments. We won't get to benefit from the fixes until they are done and
there's a major trade show...

NAMBLOGA is soon

(National Man Boy Love of Gear Association)

maybe then we will see the fruits of the Magic Apple

Teddy

On 1/13/04 11:19 AM, "Teddy Kumpel" <kumpkin@...> wrote:
 a bugfest right now. I bet they are out there
> in Cupertino right now working on fixing all the bugs and updating the GUI
> to look like something fun. With all the help they must be getting from
> Apple, I bet they also have time to work in a couple of new Audio
> Instruments. We won't get to benefit from the fixes until they are done and
> there's a major trade show...
> 
> NAMBLOGA is soon
> 
> (National Man Boy Love of Gear Association)
> 
> maybe then we will see the fruits of the Magic Apple
> 
> Teddy

I can only hope that you are right.

Craig

On 13/01/2004, at 11:19, Hans Hafner wrote:

> At 23:06 Uhr +0000 11.01.2004, vanstoons wrote:
>> Called Emagic and they suggested I ENABLE virtual memory! Just the
>> opposite of your
>> situation...this has not fixed the problem. Very, very annoying and
>> time consuming. I
>> have to reload all instruments and samples one by one and then the
>> song will play.
>> Anybody?
>
> Come on, are we the only two people that this happens to? I can't
> believe that! Speak up, if it is indeed something that happens to
> more, maybe we can get it fixed sooner.
>
> Cheers
> Hans
>

I've recently had a lot of crashes with EXS in OSX.
They would occur after loading a song and then pressing play. I got the 
beachball and then the Try To Save Your Song msg.
I believe 6.3.x are buggy versions that should have never been 
released. I went back to 6.0.1 and no crashes since.
This is on Logic Gold btw.
There aren't really any features or bug fixes in the 0.3 upgrades 
anyway.
It seems like they're just wanting to justify a whole point release 
soon.
I hope Emagic get on this very soon (before the next paid upgrade) as 
it really ruins Logic's reputation of being a stable program.

Tom

At 22:48 Uhr +0100 10.01.2004, Hans Hafner wrote:
>I set up a song with EXS instances, everything plays fine, no 
>overloads just perfect. Then I quit logic, reload the song and as 
>soon as I try to play a channel with an EXS on it, boom, "Try to 
>save your song". Even when I hit play it will do this if there are 
>sequences running on an EXS channel.

I have just gotten a response from Emagic (sent the request on 
Monday, got the result today on Thursday...) telling me to go through 
a days worth of uninstalling, reinstalling and checking... well...

But the worst is, they claim, that no one else has reported this problem.

Please, mail it to them and tell them that we are pretty upset about 
it! Put the pressure on, they can't ignore their clients forever.

And I must vent a little bit about their tech support, it's standard 
pre-collected answers all the way, and it's starting to get on my 
nerves a lot. I think I will have to do the 3 hour trip over to 
Hamburg and talk to them in person and show them my setup... I don't 
think they really know how people work and use this thing. And 
usually those people don't have the time to discuss and send back 
feedback, so they just move on to get the results for their clients...

Anyway, back to work!

Cheers
Hans

At 23:28 Uhr +1030 14.01.2004, Tom Harrer wrote:
>I've recently had a lot of crashes with EXS in OSX.
>They would occur after loading a song and then pressing play. I got the
>beachball and then the Try To Save Your Song msg.
>I believe 6.3.x are buggy versions that should have never been
>released. I went back to 6.0.1 and no crashes since.
>This is on Logic Gold btw.

Please, please, please! Everybody that this is happening to: Send 
this to Emagic. Tech support just wrote back to me that they have 
never heard of this behaviour.

Telling me to go through 3 hours of moving prefs, uninstalling and 
reinstalling and did it help? Yes for about a day then this totally 
obnoxious quitting is back.

Also, send them your crashlogs. I am so mad at this people not 
recognizing what they're putting creative people through!

Sorry, will stop the rant.

But I think Emagic needs to be flooded with every little problem. I 
hate this ignorance! Who am I? A Leecher? No, I forked over 1900 
Euros... ahhh damn

Cheers and hope you have a better weekend than I
Hans

in OS 9.2 this worked: 

Have you tried increasing the amount of memory allocated to Logic? I 
tired this and it solved the problem - go to the relevant Logic 
program version and go to info - choose memory and update the amount 
of memory allocated. 

I believed this was no longer necessary for OS X.

But maybe if you still have older versions resident in the orginal 
folder maybe its getting confused - move the older versions into a 
folder out of the way if not trash them.........

?


--- In exs-users@yahoogroups.com, Hans Hafner <hanshafner@g...> wrote:
> At 23:28 Uhr +1030 14.01.2004, Tom Harrer wrote:
> >I've recently had a lot of crashes with EXS in OSX.
> >They would occur after loading a song and then pressing play. I 
got the

> >beachball and then the Try To Save Your Song msg.
> >I believe 6.3.x are buggy versions that should have never been
> >released. I went back to 6.0.1 and no crashes since.
> >This is on Logic Gold btw.
> 
> Please, please, please! Everybody that this is happening to: Send 
> this to Emagic. Tech support just wrote back to me that they have 
> never heard of this behaviour.
> 
> Telling me to go through 3 hours of moving prefs, uninstalling and 
> reinstalling and did it help? Yes for about a day then this totally 
> obnoxious quitting is back.
> 
> Also, send them your crashlogs. I am so mad at this people not 
> recognizing what they're putting creative people through!
> 
> Sorry, will stop the rant.
> 
> But I think Emagic needs to be flooded with every little problem. I 
> hate this ignorance! Who am I? A Leecher? No, I forked over 1900 
> Euros... ahhh damn
> 
> Cheers and hope you have a better weekend than I
> Hans