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Garritan Personal Orchestra samples

2004-03-10 by sam ward

I'd like to hear from anyone using the Garritan orchestra samples. Do
they load in as AU's on OSX or do they have to be converted? I'd
really like to know if these can be a useful addition for semi
classical/classical music. Thanks.

Re: [EXS] Garritan Personal Orchestra samples

2004-03-11 by Ned Bouhalassa

Sam,

They load as AUs in OS X, and work great in Logic. They are a very 
useful addition to EXS for classical and other types of music. I highly 
recommend it, especially given the price!!!

Ned


On 04-03-10, at 18:29, sam ward wrote:

> I'd like to hear from anyone using the Garritan orchestra samples. Do
>  they load in as AU's on OSX or do they have to be converted? I'd
>  really like to know if these can be a useful addition for semi
>  classical/classical music. Thanks.
>


http://www.nedfx.com

    Ned Bouhalassa

n e d @ n e d f x . c o m


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Re: [EXS] Garritan Personal Orchestra samples

2004-03-11 by Sam Ward

Thanks, Ned,

It seemed Garritan was heavy into Giga, so I was wondering . . .



Ned Bouhalassa wrote:

> Sam,
>
> They load as AUs in OS X, and work great in Logic. They are a very
> useful addition to EXS for classical and other types of music. I highly
> recommend it, especially given the price!!!
>
> Ned
>
>
> On 04-03-10, at 18:29, sam ward wrote:
>
> > I'd like to hear from anyone using the Garritan orchestra samples. Do
> >  they load in as AU's on OSX or do they have to be converted? I'd
> >  really like to know if these can be a useful addition for semi
> >  classical/classical music. Thanks.
> >
>
>
> http://www.nedfx.com
>
>     Ned Bouhalassa
>
> n e d @ n e d f x . c o m
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
>
>
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RE: [EXS] Garritan Personal Orchestra samples

2004-03-11 by Steve Schow

> It seemed Garritan was heavy into Giga, so I was wondering . . .
> 
> 

He was and still is.  But initially he was into Giga because when he came
out with Garritan Strings, Kontakt didn't even exist yet.  At this point I
think he's pretty committed to both Giga and Kontakt.  Kontakt has the
obvious advantage that he can package up a player with the library and save
users a lot of money, while also making it simple to use.  

With GPO, it makes more sense for him to release as Kontakt version with
built in player.  For $249 you get both the player and the library..  Wow..

-steve

Re: [EXS] Garritan Personal Orchestra samples

2004-03-11 by Ned Bouhalassa

Sam,

The GPO uses a specially-made Kompakt player, kind of a smaller, 
player-only version of the Kontakt sampler. You call it up in Logic 
like any other AU synth or sampler.

Best,

Ned


On 04-03-11, at 16:27, Sam Ward wrote:

> Thanks, Ned,
>
>  It seemed Garritan was heavy into Giga, so I was wondering . . .
>


http://www.nedfx.com

    Ned Bouhalassa

n e d @ n e d f x . c o m


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Re: [EXS] Garritan Personal Orchestra samples

2004-03-12 by Cyril Blanc

On 3/11/04 4:44 PM, "Ned Bouhalassa" <ned@...> wrote:


> They load as AUs in OS X, and work great in Logic. They are a very
> useful addition to EXS for classical and other types of music. I highly
> recommend it, especially given the price!!!
> 
I have heard that there was problems with GPO as well with QLSO with DFD
issue and many Logic crashes and problems, I have heard it is fixed for
Kontakt, not fixed yet with Kompakt and QLSO, is it fixed for GPO  ?

Best regards
 
Cyril Blanc
Independent Quantum Leap Symphony orchestra forum (QLSO) for Mac
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/qlso/"
A6 Andromeda forum :  http://groups.yahoo.com/group/A6_andromeda/"
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Re: [EXS] Garritan Personal Orchestra samples

2004-03-12 by Ned Bouhalassa

Cyril,

I would suggest you visit the GPO Forum over at Northern Sounds, where 
you will find lots of information about Mac users' experience with GPO. 
Of course, you can also visit the EWQL forum there to read up on QLSO:

http://www.northernsounds.com/cgi-bin/ultimatebb.cgi?

Ciao,

Ned


On 04-03-12, at 03:43, Cyril Blanc wrote:

>  I have heard that there was problems with GPO as well with QLSO with 
> DFD
>  issue and many Logic crashes and problems, I have heard it is fixed 
> for
>  Kontakt, not fixed yet with Kompakt and QLSO, is it fixed for GPO  ?


http://www.nedfx.com

    Ned Bouhalassa

n e d @ n e d f x . c o m


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Re: [EXS] Garritan Personal Orchestra samples

2004-03-12 by Cyril Blanc

On 3/12/04 2:27 PM, "Ned Bouhalassa" <ned@...> wrote:

> Cyril,
> 
> I would suggest you visit the GPO Forum over at Northern Sounds, where
> you will find lots of information about Mac users' experience with GPO.
> Of course, you can also visit the EWQL forum there to read up on QLSO:
> 
> http://www.northernsounds.com/cgi-bin/ultimatebb.cgi?
> 
> Ciao,
> 
> Ned
> 
> On 04-03-12, at 03:43, Cyril Blanc wrote:
> 
>>  I have heard that there was problems with GPO as well with QLSO with
>> DFD
>>  issue and many Logic crashes and problems, I have heard it is fixed
>> for
>>  Kontakt, not fixed yet with Kompakt and QLSO, is it fixed for GPO  ?

 
Hi Ned,

Strange answer.

Those forum are handle by the company and sometime, it is very strange,
mails are disappearing

I thought you where a GPO "free" user ;o) apparently you are not allowed
to talk !


Best regards
 
Cyril Blanc
Independent Quantum Leap Symphony orchestra forum (QLSO) for Mac
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/qlso/"
A6 Andromeda forum :  http://groups.yahoo.com/group/A6_andromeda/"
Petition :  ³Support of the APPLE LaserWriter 300 in MAC OS X²
http://www.PetitionOnline.com/Ap1c1/petition.html

Re: [EXS] Garritan Personal Orchestra samples

2004-03-12 by Sam Ward

Thanks, Steve:

I guess this means I get the Kontakt version for LApro and drop it in 
the appropriate folders and the EXS sampler shows it as .exs files. . .


Steve Schow wrote:

> > It seemed Garritan was heavy into Giga, so I was wondering . . .
> >
> >
>
> He was and still is.  But initially he was into Giga because when he came
> out with Garritan Strings, Kontakt didn't even exist yet.  At this point I
> think he's pretty committed to both Giga and Kontakt.  Kontakt has the
> obvious advantage that he can package up a player with the library and 
> save
> users a lot of money, while also making it simple to use. 
>
> With GPO, it makes more sense for him to release as Kontakt version with
> built in player.  For $249 you get both the player and the library..  
> Wow..
>
> -steve
>
>
>
>
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Re: [EXS] Garritan Personal Orchestra samples

2004-03-12 by Ned Bouhalassa

Cyril, je t'en prie!

This was not a strange answer at all. Perhaps you have had a bad 
experience at Northern Sounds, but I, on the other hand, have read all 
kinds of postings, good and bad, related to products by Garritan and 
East West. The only reason I suggested you visit there instead of 
answering directly is because I have found that there are some real 
differences in experience, even between users with the same computer 
and OS configuration.

If you know anything about me from my contributions both here and on 
other lists/forums, you'll know that I'm a straight shooter.

As for your initial question, my experience with GPO has been very 
good. I do not suffer from some of the problems that have been 
reported, like the graphic bug. OTHO, I do not use Kontakt, and that 
has been a source of problems for other Logic/OS X users. Do note that 
I have not 'pushed' GPO very hard, limiting myself to maybe 5 or 6 
instrument lines at a time in Logic, because I use other librarires in 
conjunction with GPO, like GOS, SAMs, etc.

The only time where I will not 'talk' is when I am beta testing a 
product. I bought GPO like you.

Au plaisir de te lire, libre de toute censure,

Ned


On 04-03-12, at 12:06, Cyril Blanc wrote:
>
>  Hi Ned,
>
>  Strange answer.
>
>  Those forum are handle by the company and sometime, it is very 
> strange,
>  mails are disappearing
>
>  I thought you where a GPO "free" user ;o) apparently you are not 
> allowed
>  to talk !


http://www.nedfx.com

    Ned Bouhalassa

n e d @ n e d f x . c o m


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RE: [EXS] Garritan Personal Orchestra samples

2004-03-12 by Steve Schow

> The GPO uses a specially-made Kompakt player, kind of a smaller, 
> player-only version of the Kontakt sampler. You call it up in Logic 
> like any other AU synth or sampler.
> 


Yep...  And as I am learning (since I just bought GPO yesterday), the
kontakt mini-player included with GPO plays back EVERYTHING that kontakt is
capable of.  So you can use this player or you can use kontakt if you
already own kontakt..your choice.  The samples will work the same through
either with all the filtering and performance related stuff.  If you own
kontakt you have the ability to do some tweaking or perhaps see how they set
things up.  GPO will NOT work properly with Kompakt as Kompakt does not
fully support all the stuff built into the GPO library.

The mini kontakt player that comes with GPO does not yet support DFD.  If
you want DFD you have to get kontakt.  There is a kontakt upgrade available.
But Gary Garritan and his techs keep saying over and over that they have had
nothing but problems with DFD so they don't even wanna go there right now.
They don't recommend or support using it (at least for now).  That being
said, you can load a whole GPO orchestra into 1GB of RAM or less.

You should hear some of the demos people are doing with this library.  Its
definitely a very capable orchestration tool...and the price is mind
numbingly low..

RE: [EXS] Garritan Personal Orchestra samples

2004-03-12 by Steve Schow

> I have heard that there was problems with GPO as well with 
> QLSO with DFD issue and many Logic crashes and problems, I 
> have heard it is fixed for Kontakt, not fixed yet with 
> Kompakt and QLSO, is it fixed for GPO  ?
> 
>

I just ordered GPO last night, so when I receive it I will get the latest
update from NI and see if it fixed the GUI offset bug and whether it crashes
in logic.  I'm told that people using full kontakt with GPO initially had
some issues with DFD..but that DFD is supposedly fixed better now.  Its hard
to say for sure because most of the people on the GPO forum just use the
mini-kontakt player which does not provide DFD.

As far as crashing, I sure hope not, but we'll see.  Fortunately I own DP4
also and apparantly GPO is working flawlessly in DP4.  Gary Garritan said
somewhere in one of the threads that Logic 6.4 may fix some of the issues
causing problems with kontakt.  (sigh).  So there you have it..

But just to clarify, GPO does NOT use Kompakt.  It uses Kontakt, and comes
bundled with a mini play-only kontakt player.  Kontakt has more performance
capabilities than Kompakt.  So anyway, for GPO to work, you need either the
Kontakt player (not kompakt) to be fixed or if you own Kontakt..and if it
has been fixed, then you  can use that with GPO as well...

RE: [EXS] Garritan Personal Orchestra samples

2004-03-12 by Steve Schow

> 
> Thanks, Steve:
> 
> I guess this means I get the Kontakt version for LApro and drop it in 
> the appropriate folders and the EXS sampler shows it as .exs 
> files. . .
> 
> 


Uhhmmm..  I don't own EXS (yet)...so I don't know that much about it yet.
But does EXS read Kontakt sample files?  Plus I think the GPO files are
encrypted somehow to only work with kontakt.

Even if you can read the files in EXS..I don't think its going to work right
for you that way.  GPO is designed to be a black box that just works.  But
inside there is a LOT going on.  Different controller messages and key
velocity, etc..are all being used to control various parameters of the sound
which in all liklihood will not translate to an EXS sampler.  They did a lot
of tweaking, using kontakt programming features to make a 2GB sample library
sound like a 20GB library..  I really think you would lose that with EXS...

That being said, it includes its own AU plugin that you drop into your
plugins folder and instantly have an orchestra available.  Or if you own
kontakt, you can use that and point it at the GPO sample files..and will
work exactly the same, except you'd have access to the parameters to tweak
as you want.

Of course, if you're used to tweaking with EXS and perhaps
automatation...well that just isn't there yet.  

The other thing I would do is send off a message to support@...
and talk to Garth about what his product can translate.  I'm sure he knows
all about GPO and he can tell you for sure if you can translate 100% to EXS.

Cheers

RE: [EXS] Garritan Personal Orchestra samples

2004-03-12 by Steve Schow

> Strange answer.
> 
> Those forum are handle by the company and sometime, it is 
> very strange, mails are disappearing
> 
> I thought you where a GPO "free" user ;o) apparently you are 
> not allowed to talk !
> 


Uhh...I don't think Northern Sounds is ran by Garritan or NI or EWQL.  I'm
not really sure runs it...but all of those products get talked about on
those forums...  Its worth a look.  I found out a lot and they discussed a
lot the kontakt problems.  The whole forum has a positive tone to it..which
you can agree with or disagree with, but I find it refreshing...

-steve

Re: [EXS] Garritan Personal Orchestra samples

2004-03-12 by Ned Bouhalassa

Thanks for the clarification, Steve!

It seems that I made a mistake in my reply yesterday. All this time 
that I've had GPO, I was under the (false) impression that it was 
Kompakt. Now we know that it's a special Kontakt.

Gee, I wish NI would find other names for these two players/samplers!! 
;-)

Ned


On 04-03-12, at 14:17, Steve Schow wrote:
>
>  But just to clarify, GPO does NOT use Kompakt.  It uses Kontakt, and 
> comes
>  bundled with a mini play-only kontakt player. 


> http://www.nedfx.com

    Ned Bouhalassa

n e d @ n e d f x . c o m


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Re: [EXS] Garritan Personal Orchestra samples

2004-03-12 by Sam Ward

Steve:

I don't have kontkt and I'm new to Logic. I would  like to forward this 
to Gary Garritan and see what his response is about using the GPO in 
Logic Audio Pro. Would this be o.k.with you?

Steve Schow wrote:

>
> >
> > Thanks, Steve:
> >
> > I guess this means I get the Kontakt version for LApro and drop it in
> > the appropriate folders and the EXS sampler shows it as .exs
> > files. . .
> >
> >
>
>
> Uhhmmm..  I don't own EXS (yet)...so I don't know that much about it yet.
> But does EXS read Kontakt sample files?  Plus I think the GPO files are
> encrypted somehow to only work with kontakt.
>
> Even if you can read the files in EXS..I don't think its going to work 
> right
> for you that way.  GPO is designed to be a black box that just works.  But
> inside there is a LOT going on.  Different controller messages and key
> velocity, etc..are all being used to control various parameters of the 
> sound
> which in all liklihood will not translate to an EXS sampler.  They did 
> a lot
> of tweaking, using kontakt programming features to make a 2GB sample 
> library
> sound like a 20GB library..  I really think you would lose that with 
> EXS...
>
> That being said, it includes its own AU plugin that you drop into your
> plugins folder and instantly have an orchestra available.  Or if you own
> kontakt, you can use that and point it at the GPO sample files..and will
> work exactly the same, except you'd have access to the parameters to tweak
> as you want.
>
> Of course, if you're used to tweaking with EXS and perhaps
> automatation...well that just isn't there yet. 
>
> The other thing I would do is send off a message to support@...
> and talk to Garth about what his product can translate.  I'm sure he knows
> all about GPO and he can tell you for sure if you can translate 100% 
> to EXS.
>
> Cheers
>
>
>
>
>
>
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RE: [EXS] Garritan Personal Orchestra samples

2004-03-12 by Sean McCoy

At 11:28 AM 03/12/2004, you wrote:

>But does EXS read Kontakt sample files?

No.


>The other thing I would do is send off a message to support@...
>and talk to Garth about what his product can translate.


I've already had these conversations with Garth. Translations from Kontakt 
to anything aren't yet possible due to code restrictions by NI. You can 
convert to Kontakt, but not from it.

Re: [EXS] Garritan Personal Orchestra samples

2004-03-12 by Sam Ward

So trying to use GPO with Logic and the exs sampler  is not possible?

Sean McCoy wrote:

> At 11:28 AM 03/12/2004, you wrote:
>
> >But does EXS read Kontakt sample files?
>
> No.
>
>
> >The other thing I would do is send off a message to 
> support@...
> >and talk to Garth about what his product can translate.
>
>
> I've already had these conversations with Garth. Translations from 
> Kontakt
> to anything aren't yet possible due to code restrictions by NI. You can
> convert to Kontakt, but not from it.
>
>
>
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Re: [EXS] Garritan Personal Orchestra samples

2004-03-12 by Sean McCoy

At 01:24 PM 03/12/2004, you wrote:
>So trying to use GPO with Logic and the exs sampler  is not possible?

I don't have GPO, but I know that it uses many of the advanced tools and 
programming I'm familiar with from GOS, and trying to do raw sample imports 
into EXS and re-create those programs would be a nightmare. You can, of 
course, use GPO in addition to EXS since it's nothing more than another 
VSTI as far as Logic is concerned. (or AU, or whatever--I'm still on OS9)

Re: [EXS] Garritan Personal Orchestra samples

2004-03-12 by Ned Bouhalassa

It's not possible, as the sample data is 'locked' for use with Kontakt 
and the special GPO Kontakt player only.

This is a growing tendency which you can see in virtual instruments 
like;

Culture, Stylus, Trilogy, Atmosphere, BFD, Candy, EWQLO, StormDrum, 
etc, etc.

Ned

PS: In the meantime, if your EXS is really hungry for orchestral 
instruments, you can always buy VSL, SAM, QL Brass, GOS, etc.


On 04-03-12, at 16:24, Sam Ward wrote:

> So trying to use GPO with Logic and the exs sampler  is not possible?
>
>


> http://www.nedfx.com

    Ned Bouhalassa

n e d @ n e d f x . c o m


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RE: [EXS] Garritan Personal Orchestra samples

2004-03-12 by Steve Schow

> >The other thing I would do is send off a message to 
> >support@chickensys.com and talk to Garth about what his product can 
> >translate.
> 
> 
> I've already had these conversations with Garth. Translations 
> from Kontakt 
> to anything aren't yet possible due to code restrictions by 
> NI. You can 
> convert to Kontakt, but not from it.
> 

There you have it.  I actually already knew that, I just forgot.  Thanks for
the reminder.  So bottom line is, unless Garritan releases an EXS version,
you are stuck with using kontakt plugin.  Due to licensing issues, I don't
think he will release on anything other than Kontakt for quite a while.

RE: [EXS] Garritan Personal Orchestra samples

2004-03-12 by Steve Schow

> I don't have kontkt and I'm new to Logic. I would  like to
> forward this 
> to Gary Garritan and see what his response is about using the GPO in 
> Logic Audio Pro. Would this be o.k.with you?
> 


I don't mind.  Gary is very responsive in general.  You can also find out a
lot about GPO on the NorthernSounds user forum.

Re: [EXS] Garritan Personal Orchestra samples

2004-03-13 by Sam Ward

Ned:

How do you use the GPO in Logic? Just drop the GPO files in the EXS 
folder ---
or do you have to use a player within Logic (Kontakt?) and is that 
provided in the purchase
price? (I'm new to Logic)

Thanks,



Ned Bouhalassa wrote:

> Cyril, je t'en prie!
>
> This was not a strange answer at all. Perhaps you have had a bad
> experience at Northern Sounds, but I, on the other hand, have read all
> kinds of postings, good and bad, related to products by Garritan and
> East West. The only reason I suggested you visit there instead of
> answering directly is because I have found that there are some real
> differences in experience, even between users with the same computer
> and OS configuration.
>
> If you know anything about me from my contributions both here and on
> other lists/forums, you'll know that I'm a straight shooter.
>
> As for your initial question, my experience with GPO has been very
> good. I do not suffer from some of the problems that have been
> reported, like the graphic bug. OTHO, I do not use Kontakt, and that
> has been a source of problems for other Logic/OS X users. Do note that
> I have not 'pushed' GPO very hard, limiting myself to maybe 5 or 6
> instrument lines at a time in Logic, because I use other librarires in
> conjunction with GPO, like GOS, SAMs, etc.
>
> The only time where I will not 'talk' is when I am beta testing a
> product. I bought GPO like you.
>
> Au plaisir de te lire, libre de toute censure,
>
> Ned
>
>
> On 04-03-12, at 12:06, Cyril Blanc wrote:
> >
> >  Hi Ned,
> >
> >  Strange answer.
> >
> >  Those forum are handle by the company and sometime, it is very
> > strange,
> >  mails are disappearing
> >
> >  I thought you where a GPO "free" user ;o) apparently you are not
> > allowed
> >  to talk !
>
>
> http://www.nedfx.com
>
>     Ned Bouhalassa
>
> n e d @ n e d f x . c o m
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
>
>
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Re: [EXS] Garritan Personal Orchestra samples

2004-03-13 by Bill Canty

Steve Schow wrote:
> 
> You should hear some of the demos people are doing with this library.
> It's definitely a very capable orchestration tool

Got any URLs for us? :-)

RE: [EXS] Garritan Personal Orchestra samples

2004-03-13 by Steve Schow

> How do you use the GPO in Logic? Just drop the GPO files in the EXS 
> folder ---
> or do you have to use a player within Logic (Kontakt?) and is that 
> provided in the purchase
> price? (I'm new to Logic)
> 


No...nothing is included with logic to support it.  Its not related to EXS
at all.  This is probably getting OT, but basically you just install GPO and
it appears as an alternative plugin INSTEAD of EXS...that plays back the GPO
library.

RE: [EXS] Garritan Personal Orchestra samples

2004-03-13 by Steve Schow

> > You should hear some of the demos people are doing with 
> this library. 
> > It's definitely a very capable orchestration tool
> 
> Got any URLs for us? :-)
> 
> 

Yea, go to Garritan's website:  http://www.garritan.com/mp3.html

Particularly listen to the demos by Francesco Marchetti.  They're awesome,
especially considering it's a $250 sample library.

I've been warned we're getting OT....

-steve

Re: [EXS] Garritan Personal Orchestra samples

2004-03-13 by Cyril Blanc

On 3/12/04 7:55 PM, "Ned Bouhalassa" <ned@...> wrote:
 
> As for your initial question, my experience with GPO has been very
> good. I do not suffer from some of the problems that have been
> reported, like the graphic bug. OTHO, I do not use Kontakt, and that
> has been a source of problems for other Logic/OS X users.

Hi Ned, the straight shooter ;o)

Thanks for your mail.

What do you use to play the GPO samples ?

Best regards
 
Cyril Blanc
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Re: [EXS] Garritan Personal Orchestra samples

2004-03-13 by Cyril Blanc

On 3/12/04 8:17 PM, "Steve Schow" <steve@...> wrote:

>> I have heard that there was problems with GPO as well with
>> QLSO with DFD issue and many Logic crashes and problems, I
>> have heard it is fixed for Kontakt, not fixed yet with
>> Kompakt and QLSO, is it fixed for GPO  ?
>> 
>> 
> 
>.  Gary Garritan said
> somewhere in one of the threads that Logic 6.4 may fix some of the issues
> causing problems with kontakt.  (sigh).  So there you have it..
> 
They are like QLSO, all they can say is that it is the fault of Emagic ;o(

What is very strange is that I use Kompakt with Logic and I can play QLSO
without the Logic problems (crashes on loading, mouse and autoload problem)
I just get a few Core audio 1 error, midi audio sync error  and the DFD
noises !

You can get more informations on Kompakt update, apparently it is the end of
night mares :

http://www.osxaudio.com/index.php?story=ƒ3

Best regards
 
Cyril Blanc
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Re: [EXS] Garritan Personal Orchestra samples

2004-03-13 by Cyril Blanc

On 3/12/04 8:30 PM, "Steve Schow" <steve@...> wrote:

> 
>> Strange answer.
>> 
>> Those forum are handle by the company and sometime, it is
>> very strange, mails are disappearing
>> 
>> I thought you where a GPO "free" user ;o) apparently you are
>> not allowed to talk !
>> 
> 
> 
> Uhh...I don't think Northern Sounds is ran by Garritan or NI or EWQL.  I'm
> not really sure runs it...but all of those products get talked about on
> those forums...  Its worth a look.  I found out a lot and they discussed a
> lot the kontakt problems.  The whole forum has a positive tone to it..which
> you can agree with or disagree with, but I find it refreshing...

2 moderator on 3 of the QLSo forum are all working for EST/WEST ­ Douglas
Rogers, Nick Phoenix!

I had a few mails deleted and my signature is not allowed there !


Best regards
 
Cyril Blanc
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Re: [EXS] Garritan Personal Orchestra samples

2004-03-13 by Cyril Blanc

On 3/12/04 10:24 PM, "Sam Ward" <samward@...> wrote:

> So trying to use GPO with Logic and the exs sampler  is not possible?

No,

CDEXTRACT wanted to convert QLSO to EXS but Est/West said to Bernard
Chavonnet (CDEXTRACT manager) that he will be taken into justice if he does
it.

The mail saying this has been delete from QLSO forum.

Best regards
 
Cyril Blanc
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Re: [EXS] Garritan Personal Orchestra samples

2004-03-13 by Ned Bouhalassa

Cyril,

This may have to do with Copy Protection. Perhaps EW feels that if 
their sample collection is converted to EXS, it will be more attractive 
to upload to pirate servers, because many people have cracked versions 
of EXS.

Do you think Bernard (who I respect completely, btw) would get a 
positive response if he tried the same thing with Spectrasonics 
instruments, Yellow Tools' Culture, Candy, FXpansion's BFD, etc?

Sure it's a shame that we don't have the same situation as we used to 
when AKAI was the standard, but then again, if you put yourself in the 
position of the manufacturers, you've got to admit that they had to do 
_something_ to protect themselves a bit more (yes, I'm sure that there 
are cracks for everything).

I'm sad to hear about the censorship.

Best,

Ned

On 04-03-13, at 13:03, Cyril Blanc wrote:
>
>  CDEXTRACT wanted to convert QLSO to EXS but Est/West said to Bernard
>  Chavonnet (CDEXTRACT manager) that he will be taken into justice if 
> he does
>  it.


http://www.nedfx.com

    Ned Bouhalassa

n e d @ n e d f x . c o m


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Re: [EXS] Garritan Personal Orchestra samples

2004-03-13 by Ned Bouhalassa

Cyril,

I use the built-in special Kontakt AU player that comes with GPO. Works 
for me in Logic 6.3.2 and OS X 10.3.2. Note, however, that I have a 
Dual 2Ghz G5.

Ciao,

Ned

On 04-03-13, at 12:28, Cyril Blanc wrote:
> What do you use to play the GPO samples ?
>


http://www.nedfx.com

    Ned Bouhalassa

n e d @ n e d f x . c o m


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RE: [EXS] Garritan Personal Orchestra samples

2004-03-14 by Steve Schow

> CDEXTRACT wanted to convert QLSO to EXS but Est/West said to Bernard
> Chavonnet (CDEXTRACT manager) that he will be taken into 
> justice if he does it.


GPO cannot be converted with Chickensys.  Its encrypted and won't convert.

Re: [EXS] Garritan Personal Orchestra samples

2004-03-14 by Cyril Blanc

Hi

There is a way to have a plug-ins in the EXS to protect your library.
VSL is using the Legato tool ;o)
It is quite a job to copy 65 GB !
Best 

Cyril

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