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Le 1 déc. 04, à 07:39, exs-users@yahoogroups.com a écrit :

>    From: Charles Lucy <lucy@...>
> Subject: Re: Bagpipe samples?? The samples bounce by email, so I'll 
> put them on a site and send you the url to get them.
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> On 30 Nov 2004, at 18:49, Eli Krantzberg wrote:
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>> On Nov 30, 2004, at 12:56 PM, Charles Lucy wrote:
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>>> I had the same problem a few months ago, and managed to get some pretty
>>>  lame examples gratis, which I put into exs format.
>>>  I can email them to you if you wish, if I can still find them on one
>>> of  my drives.  Do you want me to search?
>>>
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I would be also intersted in ;-) (and curious of it in the same time, 
as I'm a piper myself)
Thanks


Gérald Ryckeboer

ryckeboerg@...
http://ryckeboerg.free.fr

Then maybe you would like to play us some decent samples and put them 
up on the net for everyone to enjoy;-)
Maybe you have some good ideas of how to pitch change the melody 
without simultaneously changing the drone or sampling every single note 
at every level.



On 1 Dec 2004, at 09:38, Gérald RYCKEBOER wrote:

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> Le 1 déc. 04, à 07:39, exs-users@yahoogroups.com a écrit :
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>>    From: Charles Lucy <lucy@...>
>> Subject: Re: Bagpipe samples?? The samples bounce by email, so I'll
>> put them on a site and send you the url to get them.
>>
>>
>> On 30 Nov 2004, at 18:49, Eli Krantzberg wrote:
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>>> On Nov 30, 2004, at 12:56 PM, Charles Lucy wrote:
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>>>> I had the same problem a few months ago, and managed to get some 
>>>> pretty
>>>>  lame examples gratis, which I put into exs format.
>>>>  I can email them to you if you wish, if I can still find them on 
>>>> one
>>>> of  my drives.  Do you want me to search?
>>>>
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> I would be also intersted in ;-) (and curious of it in the same time,
> as I'm a piper myself)
> Thanks
>
>
> Gérald Ryckeboer
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> ryckeboerg@wanadoo.fr
> http://ryckeboerg.free.fr
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Well guys, wouldn t be much easier to create 2 instruments, one for the
drone, the other for the melody ?
No problem in studio, and if you play live, simply create a zone split on 2
different chanel.

Or maybe I haven t understood the question correctly.....
> 
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> Maybe you have some good ideas of how to pitch change the melody
> without simultaneously changing the drone or sampling every single note
> at every level.
> 




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The problem is how do you make bagpipes play without the drones? I don¹t
think you can play the pipes without the drones and I don¹t think you can
play the drones without the chanter. The chanter on its own sounds nothing
like the pipes.

G

On 1/12/04 4:19 pm, "Gramophone" <gramophone@sympatico.ca> wrote:

> Well guys, wouldn t be much easier to create 2 instruments, one for the
> drone, the other for the melody ?
> No problem in studio, and if you play live, simply create a zone split on 2
> different chanel.
> 
> Or maybe I haven t understood the question correctly.....
>> > 
>> > 
>> > Maybe you have some good ideas of how to pitch change the melody
>> > without simultaneously changing the drone or sampling every single note
>> > at every level.
>> > 
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> 
> The problem is how do you make bagpipes play without the drones? I don¹t
> think you can play the pipes without the drones and I don¹t think you can
> play the drones without the chanter.

Corks?  ;)

> The chanter on its own sounds nothing like the pipes.
> 
> G

Again, the Bolder Sounds set works pretty well for this with the chanter
separated off from the drones.  The idea is you play the chanter as you
would the real chanter with the grace notes, trills, etc with your right
hand as you hold down the drones key with your left hand on your keyboard.

It's not perfect as the nuances of the instrument are many.  I've never been
enchanted by even the best real, live solo bagpipe.  It seems to me to be an
instrument that sounds best in a group, e.g. a Scottish Highlands bagpipe
troupe.  I've found you can improve the sound of a sampled BP by adding a
bit of oboe to the chanter line, and a square wave analog synth patch to the
drones - not 100% organic, but works pretty well in a track.

James

It s got to be possible, because the world wind library got some separate
samples.
Wouldn t be possible to block the air flow with fabric ? I did a similar
thing on a guitar few years ago to be able to record some off the wall
harmonics without getting the other strings rersonance kicking in. Took some
time to properly postion the damper without affecting the playing, but the
end result was flawless. Off course, in this case, I know little about the
bagpipes, but I would have to imagine that there is a different pipe for all
the different sound, no ? If so, disabling all but one (muting, damping,
whatever you want to name it) will let you do some solo recording.

If my theory doesn t cut it, can you tell me why in details, I m always
curious about instrument mechanics.

Louis
> 
> The problem is how do you make bagpipes play without the drones? I don¹t
> think you can play the pipes without the drones and I don¹t think you can
> play the drones without the chanter. The chanter on its own sounds nothing
> like the pipes.
> 
> G
> 



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