EXS 24 Logic Sampler Users Group

I'm using Logic Express 7. 
I've recorded some samples and woud like to now map out and 
play back via a keyboard thru exsp24mkII (part of the LE7 package).
I'm new to this so bear with me, but there just 
doesn't seem to be enough info in the manual to help me do this 
(play back custom samples). Is exsp limited? Is there another tool?

Would someone tell me how to do this or point me to another 
rescource please?

Thanks for your help.

peace,

In EXSP, the "P" is meant for "player",wich means that you cannot create
your own "sampler instruments".
 The easiest solution (and cheapest!) is to upgrade your  EXSP24 to  EXS24
with wich you can create your instruments by opening the "edit" window.
 To upgrade you will have to contact your logic dealer,cause you'll have to
make an exchange of CD ROM,you cannot download the upgrade.
I did that myself and had to pay ~140� wich is not much if you consider that
you'll then possess one of the most powerfull soft sampler.

    Alain

Thanks for your reply!!

Welp, I guess there is always something your dealer won't tell you about the great software 
your about to buy. Ah well. 

However, where there is a will, there is way. I simply created my samples. Found a EXSP 
patch that has patches I would rarely use (I backed up the original files just in case) and 
replaced the samples in that directory with the ones I need, having renamed my samples 
to match the original names and viola, I now can trigger my custom samples under that 
patch.

This may not the be easiest, but is indeed cheap and it gets the job done. Alas however, if 
I wanted full control for the playback of my custom sample, envelops and cycling etc. I'm 
limited to the patches already created.


--- In exs-users@yahoogroups.com, Alain BERTHE <Alain.Berthe1@p...> wrote:

> 
>  In EXSP, the "P" is meant for "player",wich means that you cannot create
> your own "sampler instruments".
>  The easiest solution (and cheapest!) is to upgrade your  EXSP24 to  EXS24
> with wich you can create your instruments by opening the "edit" window.
 
>     Alain

>   In EXSP, the "P" is meant for "player",wich means that you cannot create
>  your own "sampler instruments".

From: "pcoelho377" <pbc95124@...>

>Welp, I guess there is always something your dealer won't tell you 
>about the great software
>your about to buy. Ah well.
>
>However, where there is a will, there is way. I simply created my 
>samples. Found a EXSP
>patch that has patches I would rarely use (I backed up the original 
>files just in case) and
>replaced the samples in that directory with the ones I need, having 
>renamed my samples
>to match the original names and viola, I now can trigger my custom 
>samples under that
>patch.
>
>This may not the be easiest, but is indeed cheap and it gets the job 
>done. Alas however, if
>I wanted full control for the playback of my custom sample, envelops 
>and cycling etc. I'm
>limited to the patches already created.

Good thinking! But you don't have to give up the original patch. Just 
rename it.
-- 

Nick Batzdorf
818/905-9101, cell 590-9101, fax 905-5434

Hmm, well here's a request for the group. Would a kind EXS24 user please post a generic 
instrument that is merely an instrument with no programing other than place holders for 
custom samples. Those of us with EXSP could then simply propagate the sample directory 
for the generic instrument with our own custom samples for play back accross the 
keyboard.



Any help would be appreciated.

peace,


--- In exs-users@yahoogroups.com, Nick Batzdorf <recording@e...> wrote:

> >   In EXSP, the "P" is meant for "player",wich means that you cannot create
> >  your own "sampler instruments".
> 
> From: "pcoelho377" <pbc95124@m...>
> 
> >...where there is a will, there is way. I simply created my 
> >samples. Found a EXSP
> >patch that has patches I would rarely use (I backed up the original 
> >files just in case) and
> >replaced the samples in that directory with the ones I need...
> >...limited to the patches already created.
> 
> Good thinking! But you don't have to give up the original patch. Just 
> rename it.
> -- 
> 
> Nick Batzdorf
> 818/905-9101, cell 590-9101, fax 905-5434

pcoelho377 [mailto:pbc95124@...] :
>Would a kind EXS24 user please post a generic 
>instrument that is merely an instrument with no 
>programing other than place holders for 
>custom samples. 


I could give it a shot. 

How would you prefer your samples layed out on the keyboard, how many,
and with which names?  Do you need them one shot and with pitch
disabled?

It depends on how you want to use this generic instrument: pitched
sounds, drums or as a trigger for sound tracks and effects.


Herbert 

www.herbertboland.nl .:. Composer and Sound Designer .:.
www.zepmusic.com  .:. Open Songwriters Network .:.

Way cool!!

Let's just try triggering tracks and SFX. Perhaps we could have each note on a keyboard be 
a different sample starting with C0 and go to C2. 25 samples in all. 

If possible, no sample duration limit. (one could put in a full song or a short blip as 
needed per trigger key)

Could G1 thru C2 be looping? That is, when the end of the sample is reached it will loop as 
long as the key is held down or sustain pedal is depressed? If this is sample length 
dependent, then don't bother.

As for a naming convention, for the samples, how about SFX_C0.aif (or wav) then 
SFX_C#0.aif, SFX_D0.aif, SFX_D#0.aif, etc. Just as long as we can pre determine where the 
sample will be played when we give that sample the name

What is the requirement for the .exs file and the sample directory? Do they need to pre 
defined or can they be changed as long as they match?

I.e., <genericSFX.exs> and sample directory <genericSFX> with the sample convention 
inside the sample directory. The goal could be to have the user simply change the name of 
the .exs file and matching directory so that more intruments may be defined with different 
samples in each. 

Thanks for your input.

peace,



--- In exs-users@yahoogroups.com, "Herbert Boland" <yahoo@z...> wrote:

> pcoelho377 [mailto:pbc95124@m...] :
> >Would a kind EXS24 user please post a generic 
> >instrument that is merely an instrument with no 
> >programing other than place holders for 
> >custom samples. 
> 
> 
> I could give it a shot. 
> 
> How would you prefer your samples layed out on the keyboard, how many,
> and with which names?  Do you need them one shot and with pitch
> disabled?
> 
> It depends on how you want to use this generic instrument: pitched
> sounds, drums or as a trigger for sound tracks and effects.
> 
> 
> Herbert 
> 
> www.herbertboland.nl .:. Composer and Sound Designer .:.
> www.zepmusic.com  .:. Open Songwriters Network .:.

Some friend of mine is owning Logic Express 6 and constantly building his
own patches for the EXSP.
The EXS editor apparently is part of Logic Express too (I wonder why...).
There's just two downsides:
- You can't listen to your patches in realtime but need to reload them each
time you change something.
- Emapple might have changed this with version 7, so maybe the EXS editor
isn't part of Logic Express anymore. I don't know about that.

As said, usually, with all previous versions you could just build your own
sampler instruments without owning either EXS or EXSP.

- Sascha