EXS 24 Logic Sampler Users Group

I've got everything completed--the samples, etc. are working 
nicely, all of the notes are in place, and everything sounds great.  
Now, how do I make an .aif file of the result?  How do I create an 
audio file of this?  I can't just bounce it to disk--or can I?  Please 
help--I'm working under a deadline for a client.
***********
Simple, Just press BOUNCE on the Master Fader...
u will see a window, just enter the Measures Start and End...
Logic run and create the Aiff where u want...
Watch u'r "preferences" before to be sure that AIFF format is selected...
Igor

In the master fader you press "B" for bounce to disk.  You will get a prompt if you want to save it as a stereo file with sperate files for left and right, or a single interleaved file that's stereo.  If you want it to be AIFF you must make sure your Audio Preferences are set to "AIFF".  On Mac, it was set for SDII (Digidesign Sound Designer II) by default and I had to change it.  By setting this to either SDII, AIFF, or WAV, this is the default Logic will use every time it creates an audio file.

BTW, you said you use Logic 4.7.  You should grab 4.7.2 from the emagic site.. A few changes, but none to EXS24.  Just an FYI.

Regards,
Mark

  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: sooska@... 
  To: exs-users@yahoogroups.com 
  Sent: Saturday, June 23, 2001 1:15 PM
  Subject: [exs] oldee to Logic, newbee to EXS24--basic question


  I'm very new to software synths/samplers, so please bear with 
  me. . .I'm also one of the countless who received EXS24 with a 
  manual in German (FYI--call the Emagic sales dept. and they'll 
  send you an English--language version gratis--I'm waiting on 
  mine), so I'm up a creek for the present.

  I've got everything completed--the samples, etc. are working 
  nicely, all of the notes are in place, and everything sounds great.  
  Now, how do I make an .aif file of the result?  How do I create an 
  audio file of this?  I can't just bounce it to disk--or can I?  Please 
  help--I'm working under a deadline for a client.

  Thanks -
  Soo

  PS - Logic Gold 4.7.0, Mac with sys. 8.6.


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BTW, you said you use Logic 4.7.  You should grab 4.7.2 from the emagic
site.. A few changes, but none to EXS24.  Just an FYI.
******
Maybe not if he is in OS 8.6 !! don't know if it's good....
Igor

Well, yes, I only *wish* this worked, but for some bizarre reason 
it doesn't.  I must've tried this thirty times before I decided to give 
up and post the question to the list.  Yes, this should be the way 
it happens--but it doesn't and I'm going crazy trying to figure out 
why.

Everything else is fine.  I'm currently working on sound effects for 
an animation company.  Everything else bounces/saves/etc. 
fine--except when I create something through the EXS24.  It just 
*won't* allow me to take the sequence I've created, play it with an 
EXS24 sample (in this case, a frog sample--I'm making the of 
them sing--don't ask. . .), and then save the result so I can get it 
out to the client.  I'm starting to have "this is what I get for putting 
away the hardware sampler and working on the road" thoughts. . 
.

There must be *something* not set right *somewhere*, as 
everytime I hit bounce on the MF, I get a "nothing to bounce" 
message in the bounce window.   There *is* quite a bit to 
bounce, though, and I'm having a horrible time trying to find out 
what's telling Logic there's nothing to do.

Hence my problem.  What should work, doesn't.  Any 
suggestions?  I've got to get this figured out by the end of the day, 
or I'll have to do one note at a time through the Time and Pitch 
Machine and put it all together the long and difficult way 
<shudder>. . .

- soo

PS - Yael--I'm a she, not a he!  :)

--- In exs-users@y..., "yael" <yael@n...> wrote:
> 
> I've got everything completed--the samples, etc. are working 
> nicely, all of the notes are in place, and everything sounds 
great.  
> Now, how do I make an .aif file of the result?  How do I create 
an 
> audio file of this?  I can't just bounce it to disk--or can I?  
Please 
> help--I'm working under a deadline for a client.
> ***********
> Simple, Just press BOUNCE on the Master Fader...
> u will see a window, just enter the Measures Start and End...
> Logic run and create the Aiff where u want...
> Watch u'r "preferences" before to be sure that AIFF format is 
selected...
> Igor

Do you have any mutes or solos active? When you press play on the sequencer,
do you hear what you want to bounce playing?

> From: sooska@...
> Reply-To: exs-users@yahoogroups.com
> Date: Mon, 25 Jun 2001 15:16:13 -0000
> To: exs-users@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: Re: [exs] oldee to Logic, newbee to EXS24--basic question
> 
> Well, yes, I only *wish* this worked, but for some bizarre reason
> it doesn't.  I must've tried this thirty times before I decided to give
> up and post the question to the list.  Yes, this should be the way
> it happens--but it doesn't and I'm going crazy trying to figure out
> why.
> 
> Everything else is fine.  I'm currently working on sound effects for
> an animation company.  Everything else bounces/saves/etc.
> fine--except when I create something through the EXS24.  It just
> *won't* allow me to take the sequence I've created, play it with an
> EXS24 sample (in this case, a frog sample--I'm making the of
> them sing--don't ask. . .), and then save the result so I can get it
> out to the client.  I'm starting to have "this is what I get for putting
> away the hardware sampler and working on the road" thoughts. .
> .
> 
> There must be *something* not set right *somewhere*, as
> everytime I hit bounce on the MF, I get a "nothing to bounce"
> message in the bounce window.   There *is* quite a bit to
> bounce, though, and I'm having a horrible time trying to find out
> what's telling Logic there's nothing to do.
> 
> Hence my problem.  What should work, doesn't.  Any
> suggestions?  I've got to get this figured out by the end of the day,
> or I'll have to do one note at a time through the Time and Pitch
> Machine and put it all together the long and difficult way
> <shudder>. . .
> 
> - soo
> 
> PS - Yael--I'm a she, not a he!  :)
> 
> --- In exs-users@y..., "yael" <yael@n...> wrote:
>> 
>> I've got everything completed--the samples, etc. are working
>> nicely, all of the notes are in place, and everything sounds
> great.  
>> Now, how do I make an .aif file of the result?  How do I create
> an 
>> audio file of this?  I can't just bounce it to disk--or can I?
> Please 
>> help--I'm working under a deadline for a client.
>> ***********
>> Simple, Just press BOUNCE on the Master Fader...
>> u will see a window, just enter the Measures Start and End...
>> Logic run and create the Aiff where u want...
>> Watch u'r "preferences" before to be sure that AIFF format is
> selected...
>> Igor
> 
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>

Well, if you have a deadline of today, I strongly encourage you to call Emagic Tech Support.  If you are in the States, use 10-10-220 because it's so cheap and the hold time could be long.  

1) Have you tried bouncing with another song?  Could your autoload song be messed up? 

2) You could temporarily drag your Logic Preferences file out of the system fold and to the desktop.  When you launch Logic it will act like it's launching for the first time and ask some questions (but you don't have to re-auth EXS24). Set up your EXS24 and paste in the midi track for it, but nothing else. Then bounce to disk.  

Sometimes the Logic Preferences file gets weird and that's one of the first things emagic will have you do if you call them.. It happened to me once and it fixed everything.  

Regards,
Mark

  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: sooska@... 
  To: exs-users@yahoogroups.com 
  Sent: Monday, June 25, 2001 8:16 AM
  Subject: Re: [exs] oldee to Logic, newbee to EXS24--basic question


  Well, yes, I only *wish* this worked, but for some bizarre reason 
  it doesn't.  I must've tried this thirty times before I decided to give 
  up and post the question to the list.  Yes, this should be the way 
  it happens--but it doesn't and I'm going crazy trying to figure out 
  why.

  Everything else is fine.  I'm currently working on sound effects for 
  an animation company.  Everything else bounces/saves/etc. 
  fine--except when I create something through the EXS24.  It just 
  *won't* allow me to take the sequence I've created, play it with an 
  EXS24 sample (in this case, a frog sample--I'm making the of 
  them sing--don't ask. . .), and then save the result so I can get it 
  out to the client.  I'm starting to have "this is what I get for putting 
  away the hardware sampler and working on the road" thoughts. . 
  .

  There must be *something* not set right *somewhere*, as 
  everytime I hit bounce on the MF, I get a "nothing to bounce" 
  message in the bounce window.   There *is* quite a bit to 
  bounce, though, and I'm having a horrible time trying to find out 
  what's telling Logic there's nothing to do.

  Hence my problem.  What should work, doesn't.  Any 
  suggestions?  I've got to get this figured out by the end of the day, 
  or I'll have to do one note at a time through the Time and Pitch 
  Machine and put it all together the long and difficult way 
  <shudder>. . .

  - soo

  PS - Yael--I'm a she, not a he!  :)

  --- In exs-users@y..., "yael" <yael@n...> wrote:
  > 
  > I've got everything completed--the samples, etc. are working 
  > nicely, all of the notes are in place, and everything sounds 
  great.  
  > Now, how do I make an .aif file of the result?  How do I create 
  an 
  > audio file of this?  I can't just bounce it to disk--or can I?  
  Please 
  > help--I'm working under a deadline for a client.
  > ***********
  > Simple, Just press BOUNCE on the Master Fader...
  > u will see a window, just enter the Measures Start and End...
  > Logic run and create the Aiff where u want...
  > Watch u'r "preferences" before to be sure that AIFF format is 
  selected...
  > Igor


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Hi you ( she) :o)
What version of Logic is it ?
There is Midi notes on exs24 tracks, right ?...
Try to put the measures in the Left & right locator and press CYCLE MODE (
the 2 arrows....)
and then try to bounce...
Igor/Yael

Yep--I've got notes on the exs24 track.  I'll try this and let you 
know what happens. . .

Thanks -
soo

--- In exs-users@y..., "yael" <yael@n...> wrote:
> Hi you ( she) :o)
> What version of Logic is it ?
> There is Midi notes on exs24 tracks, right ?...
> Try to put the measures in the Left & right locator and press 
CYCLE MODE (

> the 2 arrows....)
> and then try to bounce...
> Igor/Yael

PS - Logic Gold for Mac, 4.7.0.



--- In exs-users@y..., "yael" <yael@n...> wrote:
> Hi you ( she) :o)
> What version of Logic is it ?
> There is Midi notes on exs24 tracks, right ?...
> Try to put the measures in the Left & right locator and press 
CYCLE MODE (

> the 2 arrows....)
> and then try to bounce...
> Igor/Yael

In order, "no" and "yes."  Everything seems fine--except I can't 
bounce the sequence to disk.
- soo

--- In exs-users@y..., "HELP@M..." <HELP@M...> wrote:
> Do you have any mutes or solos active? When you press play 
on the sequencer,
> do you hear what you want to bounce playing?
> 
> > From: sooska@y...
> > Reply-To: exs-users@y...
> > Date: Mon, 25 Jun 2001 15:16:13 -0000
> > To: exs-users@y...
> > Subject: Re: [exs] oldee to Logic, newbee to EXS24--basic 
question
> > 
> > Well, yes, I only *wish* this worked, but for some bizarre 
reason
> > it doesn't.  I must've tried this thirty times before I decided to 
give
> > up and post the question to the list.  Yes, this should be the 
way
> > it happens--but it doesn't and I'm going crazy trying to figure 
out
> > why.
> > 
> > Everything else is fine.  I'm currently working on sound effects 
for
> > an animation company.  Everything else bounces/saves/etc.
> > fine--except when I create something through the EXS24.  It 
just
> > *won't* allow me to take the sequence I've created, play it 
with an
> > EXS24 sample (in this case, a frog sample--I'm making the 
of
> > them sing--don't ask. . .), and then save the result so I can 
get it
> > out to the client.  I'm starting to have "this is what I get for 
putting
> > away the hardware sampler and working on the road" 
thoughts. .
> > .
> > 
> > There must be *something* not set right *somewhere*, as
> > everytime I hit bounce on the MF, I get a "nothing to bounce"
> > message in the bounce window.   There *is* quite a bit to
> > bounce, though, and I'm having a horrible time trying to find 
out
> > what's telling Logic there's nothing to do.
> > 
> > Hence my problem.  What should work, doesn't.  Any
> > suggestions?  I've got to get this figured out by the end of the 
day,
> > or I'll have to do one note at a time through the Time and 
Pitch
> > Machine and put it all together the long and difficult way
> > <shudder>. . .
> > 
> > - soo
> > 
> > PS - Yael--I'm a she, not a he!  :)
> > 
> > --- In exs-users@y..., "yael" <yael@n...> wrote:
> >> 
> >> I've got everything completed--the samples, etc. are working
> >> nicely, all of the notes are in place, and everything sounds
> > great.  
> >> Now, how do I make an .aif file of the result?  How do I 
create
> > an 
> >> audio file of this?  I can't just bounce it to disk--or can I?
> > Please 
> >> help--I'm working under a deadline for a client.
> >> ***********
> >> Simple, Just press BOUNCE on the Master Fader...
> >> u will see a window, just enter the Measures Start and 
End...
> >> Logic run and create the Aiff where u want...
> >> Watch u'r "preferences" before to be sure that AIFF format is
> > selected...
> >> Igor
> > 
> > 
> > To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:
> > exs-users-unsubscribe@egroups.com
> > 
> > 
> > 
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http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/

> > 
> > 
> >

Yikes!

> From: sooska@...
> Reply-To: exs-users@yahoogroups.com
> Date: Mon, 25 Jun 2001 17:45:33 -0000
> To: exs-users@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: Re: [exs] oldee to Logic, newbee to EXS24--basic question
> 
> In order, "no" and "yes."  Everything seems fine--except I can't
> bounce the sequence to disk.
> - soo
> 
> --- In exs-users@y..., "HELP@M..." <HELP@M...> wrote:
>> Do you have any mutes or solos active? When you press play
> on the sequencer,
>> do you hear what you want to bounce playing?
>> 
>>> From: sooska@y...
>>> Reply-To: exs-users@y...
>>> Date: Mon, 25 Jun 2001 15:16:13 -0000
>>> To: exs-users@y...
>>> Subject: Re: [exs] oldee to Logic, newbee to EXS24--basic
> question
>>> 
>>> Well, yes, I only *wish* this worked, but for some bizarre
> reason
>>> it doesn't.  I must've tried this thirty times before I decided to
> give
>>> up and post the question to the list.  Yes, this should be the
> way
>>> it happens--but it doesn't and I'm going crazy trying to figure
> out
>>> why.
>>> 
>>> Everything else is fine.  I'm currently working on sound effects
> for
>>> an animation company.  Everything else bounces/saves/etc.
>>> fine--except when I create something through the EXS24.  It
> just
>>> *won't* allow me to take the sequence I've created, play it
> with an
>>> EXS24 sample (in this case, a frog sample--I'm making the
> of
>>> them sing--don't ask. . .), and then save the result so I can
> get it
>>> out to the client.  I'm starting to have "this is what I get for
> putting
>>> away the hardware sampler and working on the road"
> thoughts. .
>>> .
>>> 
>>> There must be *something* not set right *somewhere*, as
>>> everytime I hit bounce on the MF, I get a "nothing to bounce"
>>> message in the bounce window.   There *is* quite a bit to
>>> bounce, though, and I'm having a horrible time trying to find
> out
>>> what's telling Logic there's nothing to do.
>>> 
>>> Hence my problem.  What should work, doesn't.  Any
>>> suggestions?  I've got to get this figured out by the end of the
> day,
>>> or I'll have to do one note at a time through the Time and
> Pitch
>>> Machine and put it all together the long and difficult way
>>> <shudder>. . .
>>> 
>>> - soo
>>> 
>>> PS - Yael--I'm a she, not a he!  :)
>>> 
>>> --- In exs-users@y..., "yael" <yael@n...> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> I've got everything completed--the samples, etc. are working
>>>> nicely, all of the notes are in place, and everything sounds
>>> great.  
>>>> Now, how do I make an .aif file of the result?  How do I
> create
>>> an 
>>>> audio file of this?  I can't just bounce it to disk--or can I?
>>> Please 
>>>> help--I'm working under a deadline for a client.
>>>> ***********
>>>> Simple, Just press BOUNCE on the Master Fader...
>>>> u will see a window, just enter the Measures Start and
> End...
>>>> Logic run and create the Aiff where u want...
>>>> Watch u'r "preferences" before to be sure that AIFF format is
>>> selected...
>>>> Igor
>>> 
>>> 
>>> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:
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>>> 
>>> 
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> 
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>

It turns out it's not as "yikes-y" as it could have been.  I just 
updated the software from 4.7 to 4.7.2. . .and for some 
inexplicable reason everything is peachy keen now.  I can now 
specify the measures to be bounced.

I don't understand it either, but I'm *happy*.  My froggies are now 
singing "Down by the old mill stream."

Thanks to *everyone* for the help!  I'm new here, but I think I'll 
stick around for a while.

Back to the swamps -
soo

--- In exs-users@y..., "HELP@M..." <HELP@M...> wrote:
> Yikes!
> 
> > From: sooska@y...
> > Reply-To: exs-users@y...
> > Date: Mon, 25 Jun 2001 17:45:33 -0000
> > To: exs-users@y...
> > Subject: Re: [exs] oldee to Logic, newbee to EXS24--basic 
question
> > 
> > In order, "no" and "yes."  Everything seems fine--except I can't
> > bounce the sequence to disk.
> > - soo
> > 
> > --- In exs-users@y..., "HELP@M..." <HELP@M...> wrote:
> >> Do you have any mutes or solos active? When you press 
play
> > on the sequencer,
> >> do you hear what you want to bounce playing?
> >> 
> >>> From: sooska@y...
> >>> Reply-To: exs-users@y...
> >>> Date: Mon, 25 Jun 2001 15:16:13 -0000
> >>> To: exs-users@y...
> >>> Subject: Re: [exs] oldee to Logic, newbee to EXS24--basic
> > question
> >>> 
> >>> Well, yes, I only *wish* this worked, but for some bizarre
> > reason
> >>> it doesn't.  I must've tried this thirty times before I decided 
to
> > give
> >>> up and post the question to the list.  Yes, this should be 
the
> > way
> >>> it happens--but it doesn't and I'm going crazy trying to 
figure
> > out
> >>> why.
> >>> 
> >>> Everything else is fine.  I'm currently working on sound 
effects
> > for
> >>> an animation company.  Everything else 
bounces/saves/etc.
> >>> fine--except when I create something through the EXS24.  
It
> > just
> >>> *won't* allow me to take the sequence I've created, play it
> > with an
> >>> EXS24 sample (in this case, a frog sample--I'm making 
the
> > of
> >>> them sing--don't ask. . .), and then save the result so I can
> > get it
> >>> out to the client.  I'm starting to have "this is what I get for
> > putting
> >>> away the hardware sampler and working on the road"
> > thoughts. .
> >>> .
> >>> 
> >>> There must be *something* not set right *somewhere*, as
> >>> everytime I hit bounce on the MF, I get a "nothing to 
bounce"
> >>> message in the bounce window.   There *is* quite a bit to
> >>> bounce, though, and I'm having a horrible time trying to 
find
> > out
> >>> what's telling Logic there's nothing to do.
> >>> 
> >>> Hence my problem.  What should work, doesn't.  Any
> >>> suggestions?  I've got to get this figured out by the end of 
the
> > day,
> >>> or I'll have to do one note at a time through the Time and
> > Pitch
> >>> Machine and put it all together the long and difficult way
> >>> <shudder>. . .
> >>> 
> >>> - soo
> >>> 
> >>> PS - Yael--I'm a she, not a he!  :)
> >>> 
> >>> --- In exs-users@y..., "yael" <yael@n...> wrote:
> >>>> 
> >>>> I've got everything completed--the samples, etc. are 
working
> >>>> nicely, all of the notes are in place, and everything 
sounds
> >>> great.  
> >>>> Now, how do I make an .aif file of the result?  How do I
> > create
> >>> an 
> >>>> audio file of this?  I can't just bounce it to disk--or can I?
> >>> Please 
> >>>> help--I'm working under a deadline for a client.
> >>>> ***********
> >>>> Simple, Just press BOUNCE on the Master Fader...
> >>>> u will see a window, just enter the Measures Start and
> > End...
> >>>> Logic run and create the Aiff where u want...
> >>>> Watch u'r "preferences" before to be sure that AIFF format 
is
> >>> selected...
> >>>> Igor
> >>> 
> >>> 
> >>> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:
> >>> exs-users-unsubscribe@egroups.com
> >>> 
> >>> 
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----- Original Message -----

From: sooska@...
To: exs-users@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Monday, June 25, 2001 8:23 PM
Subject: Re: [exs] oldee to Logic, newbee to EXS24--basic question


It turns out it's not as "yikes-y" as it could have been.  I just
updated the software from 4.7 to 4.7.2. . .and for some
inexplicable reason everything is peachy keen now.  I can now
specify the measures to be bounced.
**********
To specify there is 2 solutions :
1/Just setup the left & Right Locator & press CYCLE mode.
2/ When u press BOUNCE, there is a window who sk u from measure ??? to
measure ??? and Format etc...
Igor

Can you post the frogs online so we can hear them?

  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: sooska@... 
  To: exs-users@yahoogroups.com 
  Sent: Monday, June 25, 2001 11:23 AM
  Subject: Re: [exs] oldee to Logic, newbee to EXS24--basic question


  It turns out it's not as "yikes-y" as it could have been.  I just 
  updated the software from 4.7 to 4.7.2. . .and for some 
  inexplicable reason everything is peachy keen now.  I can now 
  specify the measures to be bounced.

  I don't understand it either, but I'm *happy*.  My froggies are now 
  singing "Down by the old mill stream."

  Thanks to *everyone* for the help!  I'm new here, but I think I'll 
  stick around for a while.

  Back to the swamps -
  soo

  --- In exs-users@y..., "HELP@M..." <HELP@M...> wrote:
  > Yikes!
  > 
  > > From: sooska@y...
  > > Reply-To: exs-users@y...
  > > Date: Mon, 25 Jun 2001 17:45:33 -0000
  > > To: exs-users@y...
  > > Subject: Re: [exs] oldee to Logic, newbee to EXS24--basic 
  question
  > > 
  > > In order, "no" and "yes."  Everything seems fine--except I can't
  > > bounce the sequence to disk.
  > > - soo
  > > 
  > > --- In exs-users@y..., "HELP@M..." <HELP@M...> wrote:
  > >> Do you have any mutes or solos active? When you press 
  play
  > > on the sequencer,
  > >> do you hear what you want to bounce playing?
  > >> 
  > >>> From: sooska@y...
  > >>> Reply-To: exs-users@y...
  > >>> Date: Mon, 25 Jun 2001 15:16:13 -0000
  > >>> To: exs-users@y...
  > >>> Subject: Re: [exs] oldee to Logic, newbee to EXS24--basic
  > > question
  > >>> 
  > >>> Well, yes, I only *wish* this worked, but for some bizarre
  > > reason
  > >>> it doesn't.  I must've tried this thirty times before I decided 
  to
  > > give
  > >>> up and post the question to the list.  Yes, this should be 
  the
  > > way
  > >>> it happens--but it doesn't and I'm going crazy trying to 
  figure
  > > out
  > >>> why.
  > >>> 
  > >>> Everything else is fine.  I'm currently working on sound 
  effects
  > > for
  > >>> an animation company.  Everything else 
  bounces/saves/etc.
  > >>> fine--except when I create something through the EXS24.  
  It
  > > just
  > >>> *won't* allow me to take the sequence I've created, play it
  > > with an
  > >>> EXS24 sample (in this case, a frog sample--I'm making 
  the
  > > of
  > >>> them sing--don't ask. . .), and then save the result so I can
  > > get it
  > >>> out to the client.  I'm starting to have "this is what I get for
  > > putting
  > >>> away the hardware sampler and working on the road"
  > > thoughts. .
  > >>> .
  > >>> 
  > >>> There must be *something* not set right *somewhere*, as
  > >>> everytime I hit bounce on the MF, I get a "nothing to 
  bounce"
  > >>> message in the bounce window.   There *is* quite a bit to
  > >>> bounce, though, and I'm having a horrible time trying to 
  find
  > > out
  > >>> what's telling Logic there's nothing to do.
  > >>> 
  > >>> Hence my problem.  What should work, doesn't.  Any
  > >>> suggestions?  I've got to get this figured out by the end of 
  the
  > > day,
  > >>> or I'll have to do one note at a time through the Time and
  > > Pitch
  > >>> Machine and put it all together the long and difficult way
  > >>> <shudder>. . .
  > >>> 
  > >>> - soo
  > >>> 
  > >>> PS - Yael--I'm a she, not a he!  :)
  > >>> 
  > >>> --- In exs-users@y..., "yael" <yael@n...> wrote:
  > >>>> 
  > >>>> I've got everything completed--the samples, etc. are 
  working
  > >>>> nicely, all of the notes are in place, and everything 
  sounds
  > >>> great.  
  > >>>> Now, how do I make an .aif file of the result?  How do I
  > > create
  > >>> an 
  > >>>> audio file of this?  I can't just bounce it to disk--or can I?
  > >>> Please 
  > >>>> help--I'm working under a deadline for a client.
  > >>>> ***********
  > >>>> Simple, Just press BOUNCE on the Master Fader...
  > >>>> u will see a window, just enter the Measures Start and
  > > End...
  > >>>> Logic run and create the Aiff where u want...
  > >>>> Watch u'r "preferences" before to be sure that AIFF format 
  is
  > >>> selected...
  > >>>> Igor
  > >>> 
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Mark, this is an old message. The situation has been resolved.

> From: "Mark L. Holloway" <Mark_L_Holloway@...>
> Reply-To: exs-users@yahoogroups.com
> Date: Mon, 25 Jun 2001 08:47:33 -0700
> To: <exs-users@yahoogroups.com>
> Subject: Re: [exs] oldee to Logic, newbee to EXS24--basic question
> 
> Well, if you have a deadline of today, I strongly encourage you to call Emagic
> Tech Support.  If you are in the States, use 10-10-220 because it's so cheap
> and the hold time could be long.
> 
> 1) Have you tried bouncing with another song?  Could your autoload song be
> messed up? 
> 
> 2) You could temporarily drag your Logic Preferences file out of the system
> fold and to the desktop.  When you launch Logic it will act like it's
> launching for the first time and ask some questions (but you don't have to
> re-auth EXS24). Set up your EXS24 and paste in the midi track for it, but
> nothing else. Then bounce to disk.
> 
> Sometimes the Logic Preferences file gets weird and that's one of the first
> things emagic will have you do if you call them.. It happened to me once and
> it fixed everything.
> 
> Regards,
> Mark
> 
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: sooska@...
> To: exs-users@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Monday, June 25, 2001 8:16 AM
> Subject: Re: [exs] oldee to Logic, newbee to EXS24--basic question
> 
> 
> Well, yes, I only *wish* this worked, but for some bizarre reason
> it doesn't.  I must've tried this thirty times before I decided to give
> up and post the question to the list.  Yes, this should be the way
> it happens--but it doesn't and I'm going crazy trying to figure out
> why.
> 
> Everything else is fine.  I'm currently working on sound effects for
> an animation company.  Everything else bounces/saves/etc.
> fine--except when I create something through the EXS24.  It just
> *won't* allow me to take the sequence I've created, play it with an
> EXS24 sample (in this case, a frog sample--I'm making the of
> them sing--don't ask. . .), and then save the result so I can get it
> out to the client.  I'm starting to have "this is what I get for putting
> away the hardware sampler and working on the road" thoughts. .
> .
> 
> There must be *something* not set right *somewhere*, as
> everytime I hit bounce on the MF, I get a "nothing to bounce"
> message in the bounce window.   There *is* quite a bit to
> bounce, though, and I'm having a horrible time trying to find out
> what's telling Logic there's nothing to do.
> 
> Hence my problem.  What should work, doesn't.  Any
> suggestions?  I've got to get this figured out by the end of the day,
> or I'll have to do one note at a time through the Time and Pitch
> Machine and put it all together the long and difficult way
> <shudder>. . .
> 
> - soo
> 
> PS - Yael--I'm a she, not a he!  :)
> 
> --- In exs-users@y..., "yael" <yael@n...> wrote:
>> 
>> I've got everything completed--the samples, etc. are working
>> nicely, all of the notes are in place, and everything sounds
> great.  
>> Now, how do I make an .aif file of the result?  How do I create
> an 
>> audio file of this?  I can't just bounce it to disk--or can I?
> Please 
>> help--I'm working under a deadline for a client.
>> ***********
>> Simple, Just press BOUNCE on the Master Fader...
>> u will see a window, just enter the Measures Start and End...
>> Logic run and create the Aiff where u want...
>> Watch u'r "preferences" before to be sure that AIFF format is
> selected...
>> Igor
> 
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Actually, the entirety of this particular project will be accessible 
online in the near future.  I'll keep the list updated with the url, etc. 
if anyone's interested.

- soo

--- In exs-users@y..., "Mark L. Holloway" 
<Mark_L_Holloway@h...> wrote:
> Can you post the frogs online so we can hear them?
> 
> 
> 
> 
>   ----- Original Message ----- 
>   From: sooska@y... 
>   To: exs-users@y... 
>   Sent: Monday, June 25, 2001 11:23 AM
>   Subject: Re: [exs] oldee to Logic, newbee to EXS24--basic 
question
> 
> 
>   It turns out it's not as "yikes-y" as it could have been.  I just 
>   updated the software from 4.7 to 4.7.2. . .and for some 
>   inexplicable reason everything is peachy keen now.  I can now 
>   specify the measures to be bounced.
> 
>   I don't understand it either, but I'm *happy*.  My froggies are 
now 
>   singing "Down by the old mill stream."
> 
>   Thanks to *everyone* for the help!  I'm new here, but I think I'll 
>   stick around for a while.
> 
>   Back to the swamps -
>   soo
> 
>   --- In exs-users@y..., "HELP@M..." <HELP@M...> wrote:
>   > Yikes!
>   > 
>   > > From: sooska@y...
>   > > Reply-To: exs-users@y...
>   > > Date: Mon, 25 Jun 2001 17:45:33 -0000
>   > > To: exs-users@y...
>   > > Subject: Re: [exs] oldee to Logic, newbee to EXS24--basic 
>   question
>   > > 
>   > > In order, "no" and "yes."  Everything seems fine--except I 
can't
>   > > bounce the sequence to disk.
>   > > - soo
>   > > 
>   > > --- In exs-users@y..., "HELP@M..." <HELP@M...> wrote:
>   > >> Do you have any mutes or solos active? When you press 
>   play
>   > > on the sequencer,
>   > >> do you hear what you want to bounce playing?
>   > >> 
>   > >>> From: sooska@y...
>   > >>> Reply-To: exs-users@y...
>   > >>> Date: Mon, 25 Jun 2001 15:16:13 -0000
>   > >>> To: exs-users@y...
>   > >>> Subject: Re: [exs] oldee to Logic, newbee to 
EXS24--basic
>   > > question
>   > >>> 
>   > >>> Well, yes, I only *wish* this worked, but for some bizarre
>   > > reason
>   > >>> it doesn't.  I must've tried this thirty times before I 
decided 
>   to
>   > > give
>   > >>> up and post the question to the list.  Yes, this should be 
>   the
>   > > way
>   > >>> it happens--but it doesn't and I'm going crazy trying to 
>   figure
>   > > out
>   > >>> why.
>   > >>> 
>   > >>> Everything else is fine.  I'm currently working on sound 
>   effects
>   > > for
>   > >>> an animation company.  Everything else 
>   bounces/saves/etc.
>   > >>> fine--except when I create something through the 
EXS24.  
>   It
>   > > just
>   > >>> *won't* allow me to take the sequence I've created, play 
it
>   > > with an
>   > >>> EXS24 sample (in this case, a frog sample--I'm making 
>   the
>   > > of
>   > >>> them sing--don't ask. . .), and then save the result so I 
can
>   > > get it
>   > >>> out to the client.  I'm starting to have "this is what I get 
for
>   > > putting
>   > >>> away the hardware sampler and working on the road"
>   > > thoughts. .
>   > >>> .
>   > >>> 
>   > >>> There must be *something* not set right *somewhere*, 
as
>   > >>> everytime I hit bounce on the MF, I get a "nothing to 
>   bounce"
>   > >>> message in the bounce window.   There *is* quite a bit 
to
>   > >>> bounce, though, and I'm having a horrible time trying to 
>   find
>   > > out
>   > >>> what's telling Logic there's nothing to do.
>   > >>> 
>   > >>> Hence my problem.  What should work, doesn't.  Any
>   > >>> suggestions?  I've got to get this figured out by the end 
of 
>   the
>   > > day,
>   > >>> or I'll have to do one note at a time through the Time 
and
>   > > Pitch
>   > >>> Machine and put it all together the long and difficult way
>   > >>> <shudder>. . .
>   > >>> 
>   > >>> - soo
>   > >>> 
>   > >>> PS - Yael--I'm a she, not a he!  :)
>   > >>> 
>   > >>> --- In exs-users@y..., "yael" <yael@n...> wrote:
>   > >>>> 
>   > >>>> I've got everything completed--the samples, etc. are 
>   working
>   > >>>> nicely, all of the notes are in place, and everything 
>   sounds
>   > >>> great.  
>   > >>>> Now, how do I make an .aif file of the result?  How do I
>   > > create
>   > >>> an 
>   > >>>> audio file of this?  I can't just bounce it to disk--or can 
I?
>   > >>> Please 
>   > >>>> help--I'm working under a deadline for a client.
>   > >>>> ***********
>   > >>>> Simple, Just press BOUNCE on the Master Fader...
>   > >>>> u will see a window, just enter the Measures Start and
>   > > End...
>   > >>>> Logic run and create the Aiff where u want...
>   > >>>> Watch u'r "preferences" before to be sure that AIFF 
format 
>   is
>   > >>> selected...
>   > >>>> Igor
>   > >>> 
>   > >>> 
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Actually, the entirety of this particular project will be accessible 
online in the near future.  I'll send an update with the url, etc. in 
the future if anyone's interested.

- soo

--- In exs-users@y..., "Mark L. Holloway" 
<Mark_L_Holloway@h...> wrote:
> Can you post the frogs online so we can hear them?
> 
> 
> 
> 
>   ----- Original Message ----- 
>   From: sooska@y... 
>   To: exs-users@y... 
>   Sent: Monday, June 25, 2001 11:23 AM
>   Subject: Re: [exs] oldee to Logic, newbee to EXS24--basic 
question
> 
> 
>   It turns out it's not as "yikes-y" as it could have been.  I just 
>   updated the software from 4.7 to 4.7.2. . .and for some 
>   inexplicable reason everything is peachy keen now.  I can now 
>   specify the measures to be bounced.
> 
>   I don't understand it either, but I'm *happy*.  My froggies are 
now 
>   singing "Down by the old mill stream."
> 
>   Thanks to *everyone* for the help!  I'm new here, but I think I'll 
>   stick around for a while.
> 
>   Back to the swamps -
>   soo
> 
>   --- In exs-users@y..., "HELP@M..." <HELP@M...> wrote:
>   > Yikes!
>   > 
>   > > From: sooska@y...
>   > > Reply-To: exs-users@y...
>   > > Date: Mon, 25 Jun 2001 17:45:33 -0000
>   > > To: exs-users@y...
>   > > Subject: Re: [exs] oldee to Logic, newbee to EXS24--basic 
>   question
>   > > 
>   > > In order, "no" and "yes."  Everything seems fine--except I 
can't
>   > > bounce the sequence to disk.
>   > > - soo
>   > > 
>   > > --- In exs-users@y..., "HELP@M..." <HELP@M...> wrote:
>   > >> Do you have any mutes or solos active? When you press 
>   play
>   > > on the sequencer,
>   > >> do you hear what you want to bounce playing?
>   > >> 
>   > >>> From: sooska@y...
>   > >>> Reply-To: exs-users@y...
>   > >>> Date: Mon, 25 Jun 2001 15:16:13 -0000
>   > >>> To: exs-users@y...
>   > >>> Subject: Re: [exs] oldee to Logic, newbee to 
EXS24--basic
>   > > question
>   > >>> 
>   > >>> Well, yes, I only *wish* this worked, but for some bizarre
>   > > reason
>   > >>> it doesn't.  I must've tried this thirty times before I 
decided 
>   to
>   > > give
>   > >>> up and post the question to the list.  Yes, this should be 
>   the
>   > > way
>   > >>> it happens--but it doesn't and I'm going crazy trying to 
>   figure
>   > > out
>   > >>> why.
>   > >>> 
>   > >>> Everything else is fine.  I'm currently working on sound 
>   effects
>   > > for
>   > >>> an animation company.  Everything else 
>   bounces/saves/etc.
>   > >>> fine--except when I create something through the 
EXS24.  
>   It
>   > > just
>   > >>> *won't* allow me to take the sequence I've created, play 
it
>   > > with an
>   > >>> EXS24 sample (in this case, a frog sample--I'm making 
>   the
>   > > of
>   > >>> them sing--don't ask. . .), and then save the result so I 
can
>   > > get it
>   > >>> out to the client.  I'm starting to have "this is what I get 
for
>   > > putting
>   > >>> away the hardware sampler and working on the road"
>   > > thoughts. .
>   > >>> .
>   > >>> 
>   > >>> There must be *something* not set right *somewhere*, 
as
>   > >>> everytime I hit bounce on the MF, I get a "nothing to 
>   bounce"
>   > >>> message in the bounce window.   There *is* quite a bit 
to
>   > >>> bounce, though, and I'm having a horrible time trying to 
>   find
>   > > out
>   > >>> what's telling Logic there's nothing to do.
>   > >>> 
>   > >>> Hence my problem.  What should work, doesn't.  Any
>   > >>> suggestions?  I've got to get this figured out by the end 
of 
>   the
>   > > day,
>   > >>> or I'll have to do one note at a time through the Time 
and
>   > > Pitch
>   > >>> Machine and put it all together the long and difficult way
>   > >>> <shudder>. . .
>   > >>> 
>   > >>> - soo
>   > >>> 
>   > >>> PS - Yael--I'm a she, not a he!  :)
>   > >>> 
>   > >>> --- In exs-users@y..., "yael" <yael@n...> wrote:
>   > >>>> 
>   > >>>> I've got everything completed--the samples, etc. are 
>   working
>   > >>>> nicely, all of the notes are in place, and everything 
>   sounds
>   > >>> great.  
>   > >>>> Now, how do I make an .aif file of the result?  How do I
>   > > create
>   > >>> an 
>   > >>>> audio file of this?  I can't just bounce it to disk--or can 
I?
>   > >>> Please 
>   > >>>> help--I'm working under a deadline for a client.
>   > >>>> ***********
>   > >>>> Simple, Just press BOUNCE on the Master Fader...
>   > >>>> u will see a window, just enter the Measures Start and
>   > > End...
>   > >>>> Logic run and create the Aiff where u want...
>   > >>>> Watch u'r "preferences" before to be sure that AIFF 
format 
>   is
>   > >>> selected...
>   > >>>> Igor
>   > >>> 
>   > >>> 
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Er, albeit I'm adding to the bandwidth flotsam and jetsam yet 
again. . .sorry for the repeat post.

- s

--- In exs-users@y..., sooska@y... wrote:
> Actually, the entirety of this particular project will be accessible 
> online in the near future.  I'll send an update with the url, etc. in 
> the future if anyone's interested.
> 
> - soo
> 
> --- In exs-users@y..., "Mark L. Holloway" 
> <Mark_L_Holloway@h...> wrote:
> > Can you post the frogs online so we can hear them?
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> >   ----- Original Message ----- 
> >   From: sooska@y... 
> >   To: exs-users@y... 
> >   Sent: Monday, June 25, 2001 11:23 AM
> >   Subject: Re: [exs] oldee to Logic, newbee to EXS24--basic 
> question
> > 
> > 
> >   It turns out it's not as "yikes-y" as it could have been.  I just 
> >   updated the software from 4.7 to 4.7.2. . .and for some 
> >   inexplicable reason everything is peachy keen now.  I can 
now 
> >   specify the measures to be bounced.
> > 
> >   I don't understand it either, but I'm *happy*.  My froggies are 
> now 
> >   singing "Down by the old mill stream."
> > 
> >   Thanks to *everyone* for the help!  I'm new here, but I think 
I'll 
> >   stick around for a while.
> > 
> >   Back to the swamps -
> >   soo
> > 
> >   --- In exs-users@y..., "HELP@M..." <HELP@M...> wrote:
> >   > Yikes!
> >   > 
> >   > > From: sooska@y...
> >   > > Reply-To: exs-users@y...
> >   > > Date: Mon, 25 Jun 2001 17:45:33 -0000
> >   > > To: exs-users@y...
> >   > > Subject: Re: [exs] oldee to Logic, newbee to 
EXS24--basic 
> >   question
> >   > > 
> >   > > In order, "no" and "yes."  Everything seems fine--except I 
> can't
> >   > > bounce the sequence to disk.
> >   > > - soo
> >   > > 
> >   > > --- In exs-users@y..., "HELP@M..." <HELP@M...> wrote:
> >   > >> Do you have any mutes or solos active? When you 
press 
> >   play
> >   > > on the sequencer,
> >   > >> do you hear what you want to bounce playing?
> >   > >> 
> >   > >>> From: sooska@y...
> >   > >>> Reply-To: exs-users@y...
> >   > >>> Date: Mon, 25 Jun 2001 15:16:13 -0000
> >   > >>> To: exs-users@y...
> >   > >>> Subject: Re: [exs] oldee to Logic, newbee to 
> EXS24--basic
> >   > > question
> >   > >>> 
> >   > >>> Well, yes, I only *wish* this worked, but for some 
bizarre
> >   > > reason
> >   > >>> it doesn't.  I must've tried this thirty times before I 
> decided 
> >   to
> >   > > give
> >   > >>> up and post the question to the list.  Yes, this should 
be 
> >   the
> >   > > way
> >   > >>> it happens--but it doesn't and I'm going crazy trying to 
> >   figure
> >   > > out
> >   > >>> why.
> >   > >>> 
> >   > >>> Everything else is fine.  I'm currently working on 
sound 
> >   effects
> >   > > for
> >   > >>> an animation company.  Everything else 
> >   bounces/saves/etc.
> >   > >>> fine--except when I create something through the 
> EXS24.  
> >   It
> >   > > just
> >   > >>> *won't* allow me to take the sequence I've created, 
play 
> it
> >   > > with an
> >   > >>> EXS24 sample (in this case, a frog sample--I'm 
making 
> >   the
> >   > > of
> >   > >>> them sing--don't ask. . .), and then save the result so I 
> can
> >   > > get it
> >   > >>> out to the client.  I'm starting to have "this is what I get 
> for
> >   > > putting
> >   > >>> away the hardware sampler and working on the road"
> >   > > thoughts. .
> >   > >>> .
> >   > >>> 
> >   > >>> There must be *something* not set right 
*somewhere*, 
> as
> >   > >>> everytime I hit bounce on the MF, I get a "nothing to 
> >   bounce"
> >   > >>> message in the bounce window.   There *is* quite a 
bit 
> to
> >   > >>> bounce, though, and I'm having a horrible time trying 
to 
> >   find
> >   > > out
> >   > >>> what's telling Logic there's nothing to do.
> >   > >>> 
> >   > >>> Hence my problem.  What should work, doesn't.  Any
> >   > >>> suggestions?  I've got to get this figured out by the 
end 
> of 
> >   the
> >   > > day,
> >   > >>> or I'll have to do one note at a time through the Time 
> and
> >   > > Pitch
> >   > >>> Machine and put it all together the long and difficult 
way
> >   > >>> <shudder>. . .
> >   > >>> 
> >   > >>> - soo
> >   > >>> 
> >   > >>> PS - Yael--I'm a she, not a he!  :)
> >   > >>> 
> >   > >>> --- In exs-users@y..., "yael" <yael@n...> wrote:
> >   > >>>> 
> >   > >>>> I've got everything completed--the samples, etc. are 
> >   working
> >   > >>>> nicely, all of the notes are in place, and everything 
> >   sounds
> >   > >>> great.  
> >   > >>>> Now, how do I make an .aif file of the result?  How 
do I
> >   > > create
> >   > >>> an 
> >   > >>>> audio file of this?  I can't just bounce it to disk--or 
can 
> I?
> >   > >>> Please 
> >   > >>>> help--I'm working under a deadline for a client.
> >   > >>>> ***********
> >   > >>>> Simple, Just press BOUNCE on the Master Fader...
> >   > >>>> u will see a window, just enter the Measures Start 
and
> >   > > End...
> >   > >>>> Logic run and create the Aiff where u want...
> >   > >>>> Watch u'r "preferences" before to be sure that AIFF 
> format 
> >   is
> >   > >>> selected...
> >   > >>>> Igor
> >   > >>> 
> >   > >>> 
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