EXS 24 Logic Sampler Users Group

Hi everyone,
I just had a big drive go down.   It was mainly samples so it's not  
as bad as it could be....but it was bad.   I have a couple of  
questions.  What do I need to be looking for these days in a hard  
drive.  I want big and fast.  Is USB 2 an option?  Is Firewire 800  
becoming obsolete.  Just noticed that the new mac notebooks don't  
have it.

Most of my libraries I can just reload....but I lost some samples  
from the freebee instruments that Project Sam used to keep on  
line....Specifically the flute effects samples and the True Strike  
demo instrument samples.  Does anyone have these?    I really use  
them a lot and would appreciate your help.

Thanks a bunch.

julie


www.julielarson.net

--- Julie Larson <julielarson@...> wrote:

> Hi everyone,
> I just had a big drive go down.   It was mainly samples so it's not  
> as bad as it could be....but it was bad.   I have a couple of  
> questions.  What do I need to be looking for these days in a hard  
> drive.  I want big and fast.  Is USB 2 an option? 
> Is Firewire 800  becoming obsolete.  Just noticed that the new mac
> notebooks don't have it.
> 
> Most of my libraries I can just reload....but I lost some samples  
> from the freebee instruments that Project Sam used to keep on  
> line....Specifically the flute effects samples and the True Strike  
> demo instrument samples.  Does anyone have these?   
> I really use them a lot and would appreciate your help.
> 
> Thanks a bunch.
> 
> julie
> 
> 
> www.julielarson.net


Hi Julie

You still can download all those project sam freebies.
They are all there in Giga format but EXS will convert
them automatically as you might know.
Should that not work let me know, I might be able to
send them over.
I hope that helped for now
Best
Markus

On 9/13/06 3:20 PM, "Julie Larson" <julielarson@...> wrote:
>
> Hi everyone,
> I just had a big drive go down.   It was mainly samples so it's not
> as bad as it could be....but it was bad.   I have a couple of
> questions.  What do I need to be looking for these days in a hard
> drive.  I want big and fast.  Is USB 2 an option?  Is Firewire 800
> becoming obsolete.  Just noticed that the new mac notebooks don't
> have it.

 Julie... I use LaCie drives...a 350G D2 for samples. I stick to FW800 on my
 PowerBook G4 although the D2 has FW400 & USB2 connections. USB2 is supposed to
 be just as fast but just doesn¹t seem to cut it for me. Only the ³17 MacBook
 Pro currently has FW800...worth it to me when I¹m ready for a new laptop.

Can¹t help with Project Sam samples.

Peace!

Craig

On Sep 13, 2006, at 12:20 PM, Julie Larson wrote:

> Hi everyone,
> I just had a big drive go down.   It was mainly samples so it's not
> as bad as it could be....but it was bad.   I have a couple of
> questions.  What do I need to be looking for these days in a hard
> drive.  I want big and fast.  Is USB 2 an option?  Is Firewire 800
> becoming obsolete.  Just noticed that the new mac notebooks don't
> have it.
>
> Most of my libraries I can just reload....but I lost some samples
> from the freebee instruments that Project Sam used to keep on
> line....Specifically the flute effects samples and the True Strike
> demo instrument samples.  Does anyone have these?    I really use
> them a lot and would appreciate your help.
>
> Thanks a bunch.
>
> julie
>
>
> www.julielarson.net

I've used a lot of drives.  The major ones are all pretty much the  
same - made by only a few manufacturers - the differences are mostly  
in the cases, interfaces, warranty and service.

The ones I currently like best are the LaCie d2 Extreme triple  
interface (FW400/FW800/USB 2.0).  One I opened up had a Maxtor drive  
inside - but the drive manufacturer could vary, that's not part of  
the specs.

They are available from maczone.com and compusa.com at good prices.

You can get Maxtor triple interface drives for similar cost - those  
are OK too - though LaCie's tech support is easier to contact.

FW800 is not becoming obsolete, but it seems to be remaining a niche  
interface only used for high-end pro audio or video.  The new mac pro  
quadcore desktops still have FW800 ports.  You don't really need  
FW800 unless you're doing intense projects, but it's good to have the  
option which is why I recommend the triple interface drives.

As far as recovering your files - did the disk stop spinning or is it  
just not mounting.  If it still spins, you might be able to recover  
your files with Data Rescue II, available here:  http:// 
www.prosofteng.com/products/data_rescue_info.php

I had a drive go down completely last year -  I had backups, but a  
few important files were not in the backups.  The drive would not  
mount and could not be fixed by TechTool, Disk Utility or Disk  
Warrior.  With Data Rescue II, I was able to recover almost every file.

Good luck!

- Dave

On Sep 13, 2006, at 9:51 PM, markus kmitta wrote:

> Hi Julie
>
> You still can download all those project sam freebies.
> They are all there in Giga format but EXS will convert
> them automatically as you might know.
> Should that not work let me know, I might be able to
> send them over.
> I hope that helped for now
> Best
> Markus


Hi Markus,

I can't find them.  They used to be with the updates and  
downloads....  Do you know the link?

Thanks so much.

julie


www.julielarson.net

On Sep 13, 2006, at 10:41 PM, David Gordon wrote:


> I've used a lot of drives. The major ones are all pretty much the
> same - made by only a few manufacturers - the differences are mostly
> in the cases, interfaces, warranty and service.
>
> The ones I currently like best are the LaCie d2 Extreme triple
> interface (FW400/FW800/USB 2.0). One I opened up had a Maxtor drive
> inside - but the drive manufacturer could vary, that's not part of
> the specs.
>
> They are available from maczone.com and compusa.com at good prices.
>
> You can get Maxtor triple interface drives for similar cost - those
> are OK too - though LaCie's tech support is easier to contact.
>
> FW800 is not becoming obsolete, but it seems to be remaining a niche
> interface only used for high-end pro audio or video. The new mac pro
> quadcore desktops still have FW800 ports. You don't really need
> FW800 unless you're doing intense projects, but it's good to have the
> option which is why I recommend the triple interface drives.
>
> As far as recovering your files - did the disk stop spinning or is it
> just not mounting. If it still spins, you might be able to recover
> your files with Data Rescue II, available here: http://
> www.prosofteng.com/products/data_rescue_info.php
>
> I had a drive go down completely last year - I had backups, but a
> few important files were not in the backups. The drive would not
> mount and could not be fixed by TechTool, Disk Utility or Disk
> Warrior. With Data Rescue II, I was able to recover almost every file.
>
> Good luck!
>
> - Dave


Dave and Craig,
Thanks for the info.  I get a fair number of overrun messages in fat  
musical passages.  FW800 might help with that.

As for the lost drive.... it won't spin up.  We tried putting it an a  
couple of other housings.  No luck.  So....for now....I just keep  
popping those CD's/DVD's in the computer.

thanks much,
julie


www.julielarson.net

*       
> I can't find them.  They used to be with the updates and 
> downloads....  Do you know the link? 
> Thanks so much. 
> julie  
> www.julielarson.net 

go to their demos page and on the top left there will be a free samples
button
 
gary

On 14.09.2006, at 05:41, David Gordon wrote:

> FW800 is not becoming obsolete, but it seems to be remaining a niche
> interface only used for high-end pro audio or video.  The new mac pro
> quadcore desktops still have FW800 ports.

And the new iMac, surprisingly. It does not belong to this thread but  
I would like to mention it: the new 24" dual Intel iMac has Firewire  
400 and 800 and Gigabit Ethernet. If these machines don't get hot and  
loud like many of the G5 iMacs they are perfect for a lot of  
environments. Big screens, iCam, Logic node farm etc.

___
Peter Ostry

>I can't find them. They used to be with the updates and downloads. Do you know the link?

http://www.projectsam.com/freesounds_8698gwodmv9581WFGMQ.html

Hurray!  Thanks so much!

julie

www.julielarson.net

On Sep 14, 2006, at 10:32 AM, jf@...-paris8.fr wrote:

> >I can't find them. They used to be with the updates and downloads.  
> Do you know the link?
>
> http://www.projectsam.com/freesounds_8698gwodmv9581WFGMQ.html
>
>

On 9/14/06 8:53 AM, "Julie Larson" <julielarson@...> wrote:
>
> Dave and Craig,
> Thanks for the info.  I get a fair number of overrun messages in fat
> musical passages.  FW800 might help with that.
>
> As for the lost drive.... it won't spin up.  We tried putting it an a
> couple of other housings.  No luck.  So....for now....I just keep
> popping those CD's/DVD's in the computer.
>
> thanks much,
> julie
>
Julie,
You are welcome...wish we could have been of more help.
Got to ditto on Data Rescue...it¹s the bomb! Saved my butt once, but if your
drive won¹t even spin up...

Regards!

Craig

>I just had a big drive go down.   It was mainly samples so it's not 
>as bad as it could be....but it was bad.   I have a couple of 
>questions.  What do I need to be looking for these days in a hard 
>drive.  I want big and fast.  Is USB 2 an option?  Is Firewire 800 
>becoming obsolete.  Just noticed that the new mac notebooks don't
>have it.

Hi Julie,

Other folks have spoken well about the LaCie D2 drives - I have had 
repeated problems with the D2 250 Gb drives (one just died recently, 
and one a while back).

I have now chosen a completely different route: External SATA drives 
= Serial ATA, same as your internal drives.
I bought a housing from Sonnet which holds 4 drives of your choice. I 
have 4 x 400 GB in there, more than enough for my samples plus 
backups of my main drives. The box interfaces with my G5 via a PCI 
card and 4 cables. The drives are hot-swappable which allows for even 
more possibilities: I can use some of my old "small" 160GB drives for 
storing backups, movies, etc.

I must say that (so far...) this is working really well, with none of 
the problems of firewire drives that I had experienced before. The 
data transfer rate is very high and having the "extra" drives to use 
for backups is great - 10 times faster than writing to DVD or DVD-RAM.

It's another option.....

Regards - Colin