EXS 24 Logic Sampler Users Group

George, with version 4.7 or above of LAP and EXS24, when importing Akai
samples, make sure the "merge" function is enabled at the bottom of the Akai
convert window when converting Akai volumes.  This will then prompt EXS to
merge different velocity levels of the same patch which are separate presets
into one velocity switching preset.  This function was not present in EXS
prior to version 4.7 of Logic.

Janne, as far as orchestral samples go, there are no native libraries.  The
ones that convert the best are the Advanced Orchestra and the Miroslav
Vitous.  The Kirk Hunter Virtuoso Strings are by far the weakest of the lot,
so I would recommend to stay away from them and invest your money in a
realistic library like those mentioned above.  Another thing to consider is
the Roland Orchestral Family.  EXS does not format convert Roland, however
using Bitheadz' Osmosis, which supports Roland deemphasis, you can convert
Roland patches to Samplecell, which can then be converted by EXS.  I have the
Roland Orchestral Family converted in this manner into EXS, and am very
pleased.

KC

> on 8/24/01 11:22 AM, Janne Anderson at janderson@... wrote:
>
> > Dear list,
> >
> > Are there any really good complete orchestral packages for the EXS 24?
> > Meaning native, actually programmed for the EXS 24?
>
> None that I know of -- but I'm new to the EXS24 fold. I find the Advanced
> Orchestra library to be quite excellent and it imported in just fine.
>
> Having said that, this library DOES have some shortfalls in it's preset
> programming. For example, there are no velocity switched presets, switching
> between loud and soft samples... Although there are both as separate
> presets. I have found it very easy to combine them within the ESX24 by
> simply copy-pasting from one to the other, then setting a velocity switch
> point in the Zone window.
>
> George
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on 25/8/01 8:21 PM, Kaveh Cohen at kavehc@... wrote:

> Another thing to consider is
> the Roland Orchestral Family.  EXS does not format convert Roland, however
> using Bitheadz' Osmosis, which supports Roland deemphasis, you can convert
> Roland patches to Samplecell, which can then be converted by EXS.  I have the
> Roland Orchestral Family converted in this manner into EXS, and am very
> pleased.
> 
> KC

If the original Roland instruments contained any sample tuning parameters
then you lost them all when you used Osmosis to translate. As far as I know
Osmosis does not translate any tuning info. Hope I'm wrong for your sake but
I know I'm right regarding Osmosis and Akai.  All string libraries in my
possession contain a lot of fine tuning info. Osmosis renders them useless.
Phil Buckle.

Sorry for the late reply on this. I've been swamped.

on 8/25/01 06:21 AM, Kaveh Cohen at kavehc@... wrote:

> George, with version 4.7 or above of LAP and EXS24, when importing Akai
> samples, make sure the "merge" function is enabled at the bottom of the Akai
> convert window when converting Akai volumes.
> 
I'm aware of this, but I do not believe that these presets are programmed in
their AKAI native format to cross switch... At least that's how it was when
I read them off my old E4 sampler... And the documentation suggests a manual
loading as well, prompting the user to 'link" them in their AKAI sampler.
However, you intimate that you yourself have done this, so maybe I'm
mistaken.

> Another thing to consider is the Roland Orchestral Family.

Yes, it is a very good library. I think that Advanced Orchestra beats it in
quality and it also has way more live performance variations (trills,
glisses, etc.), but the Roland library has a BROAD scope! It contains many
varieties of different instruments. As always with Roland, the sound quality
is quite acceptable, although perhaps a tad more processed than Advanced
Orchestra. There are marcato strings on the Roland library that trounce all
others, which came in very handy for a loud and heavy "Psycho-like" cue I
had to do recently. These babies just BARK!

Another thing I turn to this library for is the nice variety of concert bass
drums... And sometimes, you need JUST the right bass drum ;-) There are some
beautiful, expansive hits that are VERY soft, with a soft mallet; nice for
that gentle, distant "boom".

Roland Orchestral is a good option.

Sound On Sound magazine had a two-part special article on all the orchestral
libraries out there a year or so ago. I think that the reviews are online. I
tried to access their search engine, but their site was having problems.
Here's the URL. Try it out, yourself:

http://www.sospubs.co.uk/search/


George

Hi,

George Guerrette wrote,
> Sound On Sound magazine had a two-part special article on all the
orchestral
> libraries out there a year or so ago. I think that the reviews are online.
I
> tried to access their search engine, but their site was having problems.

http://www.sospubs.co.uk/sos/jan00/html/sosorchestral1.htm

This is the url where there are links to all of the libraries in their
roundup. I had saved it in my bookmarks.  It may not help much if you're
trying to figure out which is the best for you but it lists the highlights
of each CD Rom as well as the "Quibbles".  It's very good for finding what
some of the strengths and weaknesses are of these orchestral libraries (and
all have strengths and weaknesses - even the expensive Miroslav Vitous set).

HTH,
Fernando