EXS 24 Logic Sampler Users Group

did anyone experience tuningproblems with exs24 everytime i 
launch lap the ex24 is out of tune. the samples in relation to 
each other are stable.

The tuning problem is only there with the cracked authoriser. Don't  worry I
don't think you are bad, we are not all made of money.
Basically, tune it down 50 cents in each instrument and it will then almost
always stay there. I have been using it for some months with great success.
Just be a little patient with it.
Peace
moodymann

I'm afraid that's entirely accurate.  Factory authorized version have severe
tuning problems depending on the translated library...

KC

Lee Jones wrote:

> The tuning problem is only there with the cracked authoriser. Don't  worry I
> don't think you are bad, we are not all made of money.
> Basically, tune it down 50 cents in each instrument and it will then almost
> always stay there. I have been using it for some months with great success.
> Just be a little patient with it.
> Peace
> moodymann

I have a Sweetwater purchased EXS and the tunings are all off 
on any AKAI piano or pitched instrument that I load.  The only 
disks that seem to work are some Lightwave AKAI CD's from 
1991.  Anything made in the last 5 years or so seems to need 
retuning....any thoughts?

Ray Palagy, NYC
> > The tuning problem is only there with the cracked authoriser. 
Don't  worry I
> > don't think you are bad, we are not all made of money.
> > Basically, tune it down 50 cents in each instrument and it will 
then almost
> > always stay there. I have been using it for some months with 
great success.

> > Just be a little patient with it.
> > Peace
> > moodymann

Hi Phil,

Maybe a program like CDXtract will make correct EXS programs WITH tuning?
Haven't checked yet, but I think it works fine with that program.

Bye,
Joeri


> Sorry to all those who have read my posts stating this so many times but
> again....perhaps for the last time............be aware that EXS24 does NOT
> TRANSLATE TUNING INFO FROM AKAI CD's. Sorry for shouting but there you go.
> We have discussed this often and still Emagic make no comment.
> Don't sell your hardware samplers just yet.
> Also be aware that neither Unity DS1 or Osmosis will translate tunings
> either.
> The EXS24 is primarily a percussive or one shot sampler IMO. Unless you
> enjoy out of tune pianos, synths and strings.
> This has nothing to do with "cracks" it has everything to do with the ESX24
> inability to translate tunings from existing Akai discs. It seems a little
> strange that Emagic claim to support this format when clearly they do not.
> Phil Buckle.

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I've mentioned this before... (as the list member formerly known as
Logic_User). Rubber Chicken Software (http://www.chickensys.com/ offers a
product called Translator that does a smashing job of converting samples,
including pitch (I would be shocked if this were not the case), from and to
all kinds of sampler formats including AKAI 1000/3000. EXS24 support is due
out this week or next. The staff at RC are very excited and supportive of
the EXS24 (no this is not a paid advertisement). Do check them out. PC only
though (I bought a cheap PC and a SCSI card just to have such an amazing
range of sample conversion capability). I've got LAW on a Mac.

Peace

LAP, not LAW---doah! Please pardon the typo.

on 11/29/00 3:53 PM, rpalagy@... at rpalagy@... wrote:

> I have a Sweetwater purchased EXS and the tunings are all off
> on any AKAI piano or pitched instrument that I load.  The only
> disks that seem to work are some Lightwave AKAI CD's from
> 1991.  Anything made in the last 5 years or so seems to need
> retuning....any thoughts?
> 
> Ray Palagy, NYC
>>> The tuning problem is only there with the cracked authoriser.
> Don't  worry I
>>> don't think you are bad, we are not all made of money.
>>> Basically, tune it down 50 cents in each instrument and it will
> then almost
>>> always stay there. I have been using it for some months with
> great success.
>>> Just be a little patient with it.
>>> Peace
>>> moodymann
> 
> 
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Sorry to all those who have read my posts stating this so many times but
again....perhaps for the last time............be aware that EXS24 does NOT
TRANSLATE TUNING INFO FROM AKAI CD's. Sorry for shouting but there you go.
We have discussed this often and still Emagic make no comment.
Don't sell your hardware samplers just yet.
Also be aware that neither Unity DS1 or Osmosis will translate tunings
either.
The EXS24 is primarily a percussive or one shot sampler IMO. Unless you
enjoy out of tune pianos, synths and strings.
This has nothing to do with "cracks" it has everything to do with the ESX24
inability to translate tunings from existing Akai discs. It seems a little
strange that Emagic claim to support this format when clearly they do not.
Phil Buckle.

> I bought that program when you first mentioned it a couple of months ago. At
> this point in time as far as I know there is no EXS support.

??????????????????????? Then tell me, how did I just convert half of my akai
library to EXS with CDXtract???? 3.4 is out with EXS support!!! Go get it!!!!!

> This does make the process a bit long winded for a
> Mac user as CD Extract is a PC prog and requires that you run Virtual PC and
> then transfer everything accross.

True indeed. :-(

> But if this guy can code it on his own why can't the Emagic team code it?
> I just don't get it.

Well, let's say his program is around for some years, and it started out buggy in
the beginning as well, I guess.... I'm sure Emagic will get their act together on
this, but there's still some work to be done. In the meanwhile, I preferred being
productive with my Akai libraries and converted a lot of them already with
CDXtract (and now I need an extra harddisk 'cause the "sample disk" is full....
:-)

Just went to cdxtract.com and just read the first page: EXS support!!!! You'll
love it! I see there's another update already.

> Further more why do Emagic state on their site that
> they support Akai S1000 and S3000 format when this is untrue.

They do, although it might be a bit buggy here and there... and the rest is
marketing? ;-)))

> Also note that
> since its release their have been no other additions to the compatibility
> list nor have they bothered to update that tired old page.

I'm sure they're working on it, but don't forget that Logic is more than Akai
conversion, so they probably can't release update as fast as cdxtract can.

Bye,
Joeri

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joeri@...

Belway Productions      -     http://www.belway.com
List-admin   Logic-users/SoundD*ver-users/Logic-TDM

on 11/30/00 1:12 PM, Joeri Vankeirsbilck at joeri@... wrote:

> Hi Phil,
> 
> Maybe a program like CDXtract will make correct EXS programs WITH tuning?
> Haven't checked yet, but I think it works fine with that program.
> 
> Bye,
> Joeri
> 
> 
>> Sorry to all those who have read my posts stating this so many times but
>> again....perhaps for the last time............be aware that EXS24 does NOT
>> TRANSLATE TUNING INFO FROM AKAI CD's. Sorry for shouting but there you go.
>> We have discussed this often and still Emagic make no comment.
>> Don't sell your hardware samplers just yet.
>> Also be aware that neither Unity DS1 or Osmosis will translate tunings
>> either.
>> The EXS24 is primarily a percussive or one shot sampler IMO. Unless you
>> enjoy out of tune pianos, synths and strings.
>> This has nothing to do with "cracks" it has everything to do with the ESX24
>> inability to translate tunings from existing Akai discs. It seems a little
>> strange that Emagic claim to support this format when clearly they do not.
>> Phil Buckle.
> 
> --
> Joeri Vankeirsbilck
> joeri@...
> 
> Belway Productions      -     http://www.belway.com
> List-admin   Logic-users/SoundD*ver-users/Logic-TDM
> 
> 
> 
> 
> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:
> exs-users-unsubscribe@egroups.com
> 
> 
> 
I bought that program when you first mentioned it a couple of months ago. At
this point in time as far as I know there is no EXS support. They did say
that they would support the EXS but it's a matter of when. However it does
look like the only option that's going to happen in the light of Emagic's
refusal to communicate. This does make the process a bit long winded for a
Mac user as CD Extract is a PC prog and requires that you run Virtual PC and
then transfer everything accross.
But if this guy can code it on his own why can't the Emagic team code it?
I just don't get it. Further more why do Emagic state on their site that
they support Akai S1000 and S3000 format when this is untrue. Also note that
since its release their have been no other additions to the compatibility
list nor have they bothered to update that tired old page.
Phil Buckle.

--- In exs-users@egroups.com, Lee Jones <mail@v...> wrote:
> The tuning problem is only there with the cracked authoriser. 
Don't  worry I
> don't think you are bad, we are not all made of money.
> Basically, tune it down 50 cents in each instrument and it will 
then almost
> always stay there. I have been using it for some months with 
great success.
> Just be a little patient with it.
> Peace
> moodymann
hey Lee thanks.  with the logic authoriser
the tuning stays once you`ve tuned it. Thats what I wanted to 
know before I buy the program.