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[exs] The Akai .exs files are going up very soon.

[exs] The Akai .exs files are going up very soon.

2002-02-11 by Richmond, James (James) ** CTR **

Update:

I have checked to see what I have been able to download.

I have the following.

Splendid Grand 50% (ie 1 of the 256mb pianos)
Volume 1 complete
Volume 3 50%
Volume 4 complete
Volume 6 complete

There is no volume 2, from memory.

Volume 5 I have some of and may have the rest by the time I come home in
about 2 hours.

I have converted everything above and it is around 20mb of .exs files.
YES 20 mb.
Dont even ask me about the giga files. sheeeeesh...
:-)
I'll be posting what I have tonight and the rest as I get 'em. Next day
or so.
They are going to be on my ftp, then I will move them to a website, and
I am making them available to someone here who has a hotline server.

Aside from that guys you are on your own... :-)

If anyone wants to serve them, then cool, but aside from putting them on
my ftp, website and uploading them to the hotline server I wont sending
them to anyone else.

I have had a bit of a play and some of the sounds are excellent.
Highlights are the Splendid Grand, and Volume 1. Personally I'd give
Volume 4 a miss all together. Lame loops, dead sounding kits. Just a
personal opinion here. :-)
It has taken a fair amount of work here to do this, but it was worth it
for some of the sounds, quite a few actually.
I hope you have fun with them. I'll be posting them sometime around 8pm
GMT.

Now...I've kept mostly out of the copright debate today for a few
reasons 
a) i've been busy sorting and converting the files
b) i wanted to see if anyone gave me an exact legal position
and c) wanted to see if any of the warez kiddies were going to f*ck it
for everyone.

My take on it is this:

* These sounds are available for free on a public access ftp server.
Given enough patience anyone can download them
* I am not giving you the wave files
* I am not converting the raw audio data 
* I am making available to you a couple of thousand (yes- there are
shitloads) .exs files that I created myself using publicly available
sounds, using a piece of software that I am legally licensed to use. 
* If I thought we were doing something either illegal (or more
importantly, if it violated my ethics) then I would stop it immediately.
* I have no idea if the wavs are license free. What you use the wave
files for is your own business. 
* As far as I am concerned, and until I am told differently, I own the
copyright for the .exs files that I have created over the last few days.

Akai own the waves, they made them available to anyone who has a web
browser.
They dont own my .exs files as they werent the one who sat up until the
wee hours over the last few days converting them. 
I made 'em, they are *as mine* as the logic songs that I've spent the
last few years making. 

In my opinion the .exs files have the same copyright status as my .lso
files. I made them using a piece of software that I am licensed to use.

* You can have my .exs files for free and do what the hell you want with
them. Enjoy!
* I release any copyright I have on the .exs files to the world... Yay
for me.
* My releasing copyright on the .exs files in no way gives you any
rights over the wave files that were used as a reference for creating
the .exs files. If you want to know for sure, ask Akai.

As I said, this is just my opinion. The actual legal position may or may
not be different. Anyone lurking out there who is a copyright lawyer...
clarify this for us. If you make decisions based on anything I've said
over the last few days, especially this email then it is your own
decision. I wont be held responsible for anything you do. If you are
really that scared then leave the files where they are.

All this aside, I do not advocate piracy, or copyright infringement in
any way, shape, form, colour, smell, fish, bicycle, washtub.  

In my time on the logic and exs lists I've occassionally been emailed
directly by several people asking me for software, or in some cases
emailing me cracks of vst plugins. Thanks guys but I dont want them. I
wont report you to anyone though as I dont think it is my business.

Lastly, I am not a fan of this sort of email. It makes me sound
facetious and self important. 
I needed though to make my position clear as to how/why and under what
conditions I am doing this.
 
CD Xtract is a good application. Buy it, or chickensys translator (I
bought cd xtract becasue it was somewhat cheaper and it did what I
want). 
I would not do this for, for example, my copy of Pure Drums, or my
Advanced Orchestra CDs.
Or even my Roland library from years ago that I dont think you can buy
anymore.

This aside, good luck with the downloads. There are loads of exs files,
and they are all zipped up ready to go.
I am only making them available as .zips. Mac users can download and
expand .zips no problems. PC users need a copy of stuffit to do that,
and most people use winzip. Zip wins... sorry...

Have fun, 

James

Re: [exs] The Akai .exs files are going up very soon.

2002-02-11 by lotusmajordomo

Gawd, but dont I go on a bit...

Ok people... Uncompressed this is all going to be about 20mb, but I 
have managed to compress them down a bit. 

go to www.lotusthrone.com/exs and grab the zip files

up there now is Vol1, Volume 4, and 1/2 the Splendid Grand... ie 1 
256mb piano.
Also, some of Volume 3. I am grabbing the rest from Akai right now.
I am finishing off Xtracting volume 5 and 6. They will be up before 
then end of the night.

If you are on a Mac and cant work it out then try setting up File 
Exchange properly.

They are quite small when zipped. Except for Volume 1 which has about 
2000 instruments. It is very good... :-)

Enjoy, 

James

Akai done for now

2002-02-11 by lotusmajordomo

Okie doke...

I've uploaded all I have...

www.lotusthrone.com/exs

go get em.
I can keep them there for a couple of days and then they come off.

Still to come... the rest of Volume 3, and the other 256mb Piano.
Akai has shut me out all of today though, so it might take a bit.

Enjoy, 

James

RE: [exs] Akai done for now

2002-02-11 by Neil Goldstein

Where's else are the raw samples?  all there is is the EXS files

Can't seem to get in Akai.



Neil Goldstein
Portland, Oregon 
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  Sent: Monday, February 11, 2002 12:33 PM
  To: exs-users@yahoogroups.com
  Subject: [exs] Akai done for now


  Okie doke...

  I've uploaded all I have...

  www.lotusthrone.com/exs

  go get em.
  I can keep them there for a couple of days and then they come off.

  Still to come... the rest of Volume 3, and the other 256mb Piano.
  Akai has shut me out all of today though, so it might take a bit.

  Enjoy, 

  James


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Re: [exs] Akai done for now

2002-02-11 by lotusmajordomo

Hi there, 

> Where's else are the raw samples?  all there is is the EXS files
> 

Arrrrrrrghh...
I am going to say this just one more time.
I will NOT be uploading 1 gigabyte of wave files to my file server.
You can get the raw sample data from ftp.akaipro.co.jp
It is there. I have downloaded it from them as have several other 
people. Yes, it takes bloody ages. Cope.

/ME THROWS HAND IN AIR, bites tongue...

> Can't seem to get in Akai.

What I have posted is exs conversions of that raw sample data.
You need to grab the raw sample data yourself.

James

Re: [exs] Akai done for now

2002-02-11 by Paul C.

on 2/11/02 10:04 PM, lotusmajordomo at richmondj@... wrote:

> Hi there, 
> 
>> Where's else are the raw samples?  all there is is the EXS files
>> 
> 
> Arrrrrrrghh...
> I am going to say this just one more time.
> I will NOT be uploading 1 gigabyte of wave files to my file server.
> You can get the raw sample data from ftp.akaipro.co.jp
> It is there. I have downloaded it from them as have several other
> people. Yes, it takes bloody ages. Cope.
> 
> /ME THROWS HAND IN AIR, bites tongue...
> 
>> Can't seem to get in Akai.
> 
> What I have posted is exs conversions of that raw sample data.
> You need to grab the raw sample data yourself.
> 
> James


 REALLY feel the need to say THANKS to everyone for this.
I am a poor single parent returner and now I have a good piano and who knows
what else (really).I spent my last few hundred quid on software just buying
Logic,EXS,ES,EVP and couldn't afford a sample library.

For anyone who is interested, it has taken me a week of constant trying with
ftp.akaipro.jp in both IE5 Mac and Mac OS Network Browser.(G4 Dual 450 762
9.2.2).
Refusal means Download limit (100 Logs in) has been reached for now.

It has been worth it.

We Lucky People,

Paul.
-- 
Paul Crouch,
basses played while you wait
1, Hogs Edge,
Brighton,
BN2 4NQ,
U.K.

RE: [exs] Akai done for now

2002-02-11 by Neil Goldstein

Thanks, I'm downloading that piano right now. So won't know for hours what
I'm looking at.

Excuse my ignorance, but, the isn't the Akai site raw data in Akai format?

You provide the  EXS instruments, but doesn't the raw data still have to be
converted to aif or wav files?




Neil Goldstein
Portland, Oregon
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  From: lotusmajordomo [mailto:richmondj@...]
  Sent: Monday, February 11, 2002 2:05 PM
  To: exs-users@yahoogroups.com
  Subject: Re: [exs] Akai done for now


  Hi there,

  > Where's else are the raw samples?  all there is is the EXS files
  >

  Arrrrrrrghh...
  I am going to say this just one more time.
  I will NOT be uploading 1 gigabyte of wave files to my file server.
  You can get the raw sample data from ftp.akaipro.co.jp
  It is there. I have downloaded it from them as have several other
  people. Yes, it takes bloody ages. Cope.

  /ME THROWS HAND IN AIR, bites tongue...

  > Can't seem to get in Akai.

  What I have posted is exs conversions of that raw sample data.
  You need to grab the raw sample data yourself.

  James


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Re: [exs] Akai done for now

2002-02-11 by Michael Karlsson

No, they are wav files as soon as you expand them.
Michael

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Ämne: RE: [exs] Akai done for now


Thanks, I'm downloading that piano right now. So won't know for hours what
I'm looking at.

Excuse my ignorance, but, the isn't the Akai site raw data in Akai format?

You provide the  EXS instruments, but doesn't the raw data still have to be
converted to aif or wav files?




Neil Goldstein
Portland, Oregon
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 Subject: Re: [exs] Akai done for now


 Hi there,

 > Where's else are the raw samples?  all there is is the EXS files
 >

 Arrrrrrrghh...
 I am going to say this just one more time.
 I will NOT be uploading 1 gigabyte of wave files to my file server.
 You can get the raw sample data from ftp.akaipro.co.jp
 It is there. I have downloaded it from them as have several other
 people. Yes, it takes bloody ages. Cope.

 /ME THROWS HAND IN AIR, bites tongue...

 > Can't seem to get in Akai.

 What I have posted is exs conversions of that raw sample data.
 You need to grab the raw sample data yourself.

 James


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Re: [exs] Akai done for now

2002-02-12 by monsdrum

> Excuse my ignorance, but, the isn't the Akai site raw data in Akai 
format?
> 
> You provide the  EXS instruments, but doesn't the raw data still 
have to be
> converted to aif or wav files?


To be a bit more specific: AKAI has wisely purchased a license from 
microsoft to use msdos as the fileformat for the s5000/s6000, and wav 
as the raw audio data format. This means that all AKAI sample cds for 
these samplers will be instantly read by a pc or a mac, and it also 
means that you can finish your samples in the audio editor of your 
choice, then transfer them to the sampler without any conversion 
problems what so ever. This is really nice, something I enjoy every 
time I use my s5000 - to be honest, I haven't even tried the sample 
input jacks on the sampler; for what I know they may not be working 
at all, I wouldn't know since I always transfer wavefiles directly 
from my PC hd to the s5000, using USB. It also means that s5000 
samples will be instantly understood by any softsampler, such as the 
EXS24.

I have downloaded all the samples now, and tried out a few programs 
on my s5000. I am not terribly impressed with all of them, but there 
are a lot of nice ones around, and it has been well worth the effort. 
I am really looking forward to try them out in EXS too. James, thanx 
so much for your work here - that is truly impressing!!! We could all 
learn a lot from this example of community spirit here, and to judge 
from the posts on this list in the last few days, we already have. 
Nice.

To those of you who has been complaining about not getting thru to 
AKAI ftp: you really have to just keep trying. Sooner or later, 
someone will sign off, leaving an empty spot for you. I sometimes had 
to try 7 or 8 times with a minute in between before getting through. 
I can still only recommend using ftpexplorer (pc) for the download, 
which will allow you to download everything by the archive, instead 
of file by file, and it will also let you resume broken downloads. 
Also, it can let you keep trying to connect for a specified number of 
times (hammering), which actually was what got me through every time. 
Available for free on the www, probably on places like 
http://www.download.com.

Enjoy your downloads.

regards

monsdrum

Re: [exs] Akai done for now

2002-02-12 by Rubber Chicken Software Co.

At 12:41 AM 2/12/02 +0000, you wrote:
>> > Excuse my ignorance, but, the isn't the Akai site raw data in Akai
>>format?
>> >
>> > You provide the  EXS instruments, but doesn't the raw data still
>>have to be
>> > converted to aif or wav files?
>To be a bit more specific: AKAI has wisely purchased a license from
>microsoft to use msdos as the fileformat for the s5000/s6000, and wav
>as the raw audio data format.

Slight correction - Akai may have had to license to format a disk to MS-DOS 
format, but the files are simply files. You don't need to license anyone 
(even big brother MS) to make your own files or to use the RIFF spec.

>This means that all AKAI sample cds for
>these samplers will be instantly read by a pc or a mac, and it also
>means that you can finish your samples in the audio editor of your
>choice, then transfer them to the sampler without any conversion
>problems what so ever. This is really nice, something I enjoy every
>time I use my s5000 - to be honest, I haven't even tried the sample
>input jacks on the sampler; for what I know they may not be working
>at all, I wouldn't know since I always transfer wavefiles directly
>from my PC hd to the s5000, using USB. It also means that s5000
>samples will be instantly understood by any softsampler, such as the
>EXS24.

Righto.


Garth Hjelte
Sampler User

RE: [exs] Akai done for now

2002-02-12 by Lasky

Will these files work with the EXSP24 (in cubase) as well?
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  From: lotusmajordomo [mailto:richmondj@...]
  Sent: Monday, February 11, 2002 2:05 PM
  To: exs-users@yahoogroups.com
  Subject: Re: [exs] Akai done for now


  Hi there, 

  > Where's else are the raw samples?  all there is is the EXS files
  > 

  Arrrrrrrghh...
  I am going to say this just one more time.
  I will NOT be uploading 1 gigabyte of wave files to my file server.
  You can get the raw sample data from ftp.akaipro.co.jp
  It is there. I have downloaded it from them as have several other 
  people. Yes, it takes bloody ages. Cope.

  /ME THROWS HAND IN AIR, bites tongue...

  > Can't seem to get in Akai.

  What I have posted is exs conversions of that raw sample data.
  You need to grab the raw sample data yourself.

  James


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Re: Akai done for now

2002-02-12 by stephenbennettchaos

James

You ARE the man...

Regards

Stephen Bennett. Composer and sound design. (UK)

henry fool & The Fire Thieves 

www.chaosstudios.co.uk

Author of 'The Fast Guide To Logic' and 'Making Music with E-Magic 
Logic Audio'

www.pc-pubs.demon.co.uk

Re: [exs] Akai done for now

2002-02-12 by HELP@MusicBootCamp.com

Of course, why wouldn't they.
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> Date: Mon, 11 Feb 2002 19:55:45 -0800
> To: <exs-users@yahoogroups.com>
> Subject: RE: [exs] Akai done for now
> 
> Will these files work with the EXSP24 (in cubase) as well?
> -----Original Message-----
> From: lotusmajordomo [mailto:richmondj@...]
> Sent: Monday, February 11, 2002 2:05 PM
> To: exs-users@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: Re: [exs] Akai done for now
> 
> 
> Hi there, 
> 
>> Where's else are the raw samples?  all there is is the EXS files
>> 
> 
> Arrrrrrrghh...
> I am going to say this just one more time.
> I will NOT be uploading 1 gigabyte of wave files to my file server.
> You can get the raw sample data from ftp.akaipro.co.jp
> It is there. I have downloaded it from them as have several other
> people. Yes, it takes bloody ages. Cope.
> 
> /ME THROWS HAND IN AIR, bites tongue...
> 
>> Can't seem to get in Akai.
> 
> What I have posted is exs conversions of that raw sample data.
> You need to grab the raw sample data yourself.
> 
> James
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