EXS 24 Logic Sampler Users Group

I just purchased the EXS and I absolutely love it. VST 
compatibility, sample-accurate timing and chromatic 
auto-mapping of all my drum hit AIFF files is more than I 
dreamed possible in the same package.

But I've noticed after some experimentation that the EXS appears 
to be incompatible with the Track Loop, Velocity & Dynamics 
non-destructive controls in the top left corner of the Logic arrange 
window. Does anyone else have this problem? If so, do you 
know what causes it?

Another major annoyance: In a track which is looped, only the 
real phrase triggers sounds, the looping copies do not... 
anyone? I noticed this is also true if I have all real track phrases 
inside a packed folder and loop the folder. The looped copies do 
not trigger samples. Of course I can work around all of these 
problems, but they are a major annoyance.

I was just going to type this myself!

Any attempt at looping the ESI or the EXS24 in the left parameter box do
nothing.  What up?  It's HOW (no exceptions), I get the party started in a
track.  Without it, I can't really even use them as quickly as I'd like.

Emagic, please advise...  what gives?

Thanks.

-aaron


on 8/1/00 9:21 PM, exs_dude@... at exs_dude@... wrote:

> I just purchased the EXS and I absolutely love it. VST
> compatibility, sample-accurate timing and chromatic
> auto-mapping of all my drum hit AIFF files is more than I
> dreamed possible in the same package.
> 
> But I've noticed after some experimentation that the EXS appears
> to be incompatible with the Track Loop, Velocity & Dynamics
> non-destructive controls in the top left corner of the Logic arrange
> window. Does anyone else have this problem? If so, do you
> know what causes it?
> 
> Another major annoyance: In a track which is looped, only the
> real phrase triggers sounds, the looping copies do not...
> anyone? I noticed this is also true if I have all real track phrases
> inside a packed folder and loop the folder. The looped copies do
> not trigger samples. Of course I can work around all of these
> problems, but they are a major annoyance.
> 
> 
> 
> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:
> exs-users-unsubscribe@egroups.com
> 
> 
> 
>

Aaron Rosenberg wrote:

> Any attempt at looping the ESI or the EXS24 in the left parameter box do
> nothing.  What up?  It's HOW (no exceptions), I get the party started in a
> track.  Without it, I can't really even use them as quickly as I'd like.

Hi Aaron,

the loop function is not yet available for instruments, you may only use
it on midi tracks. Hope this is gonna change in the near future.

Bye
Thomas

hi-
where did you purchase youer program? i'm in LA and i cant't find it
anywhere.
thanks in advance

> From: exs_dude@...
> Reply-To: exs-users@egroups.com
> Date: Wed, 02 Aug 2000 01:21:43 -0000
> To: exs-users@egroups.com
> Subject: [exs] Problems with Dynamics, Velocity & Looping
> 
> I just purchased the EXS and I absolutely love it. VST
> compatibility, sample-accurate timing and chromatic
> auto-mapping of all my drum hit AIFF files is more than I
> dreamed possible in the same package.
> 
> But I've noticed after some experimentation that the EXS appears
> to be incompatible with the Track Loop, Velocity & Dynamics
> non-destructive controls in the top left corner of the Logic arrange
> window. Does anyone else have this problem? If so, do you
> know what causes it?
> 
> Another major annoyance: In a track which is looped, only the
> real phrase triggers sounds, the looping copies do not...
> anyone? I noticed this is also true if I have all real track phrases
> inside a packed folder and loop the folder. The looped copies do
> not trigger samples. Of course I can work around all of these
> problems, but they are a major annoyance.
> 
> 
> 
> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:
> exs-users-unsubscribe@egroups.com
> 
> 
>

I just bought it today, in Sydney Australia

Dave Eager

Fred Rapoport wrote:

> hi-
> where did you purchase youer program? i'm in LA and i cant't find it
> anywhere.
> thanks in advance
>
> > From: exs_dude@...
> > Reply-To: exs-users@egroups.com
> > Date: Wed, 02 Aug 2000 01:21:43 -0000
> > To: exs-users@egroups.com
> > Subject: [exs] Problems with Dynamics, Velocity & Looping
> >
> > I just purchased the EXS and I absolutely love it. VST
> > compatibility, sample-accurate timing and chromatic
> > auto-mapping of all my drum hit AIFF files is more than I
> > dreamed possible in the same package.
> >
> > But I've noticed after some experimentation that the EXS appears
> > to be incompatible with the Track Loop, Velocity & Dynamics
> > non-destructive controls in the top left corner of the Logic arrange
>
> > window. Does anyone else have this problem? If so, do you
> > know what causes it?
> >
> > Another major annoyance: In a track which is looped, only the
> > real phrase triggers sounds, the looping copies do not...
> > anyone? I noticed this is also true if I have all real track phrases
>
> > inside a packed folder and loop the folder. The looped copies do
> > not trigger samples. Of course I can work around all of these
> > problems, but they are a major annoyance.
> >
> >
> >
> > To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:
> > exs-users-unsubscribe@egroups.com
> >
> >
> >
>
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Murray McDowall  wrote:

>The AIFF files that are used in the wizoo kits sound very good but I cannot
>work with them in the Sample Editor of Logic or in Cool Edit 2000 - both
>support 24 bit AIFF.  In either app, what you see is a full scale signal
>until well into the decay tail - if you play back these files you get
>masses of distortion and then the tail -- as per the display. 
>
>What format are these files (32 bit?) and what can you open and edit them in?
>  
>Can you use them with the EXS-24?

I havn't tried. But I know Qicktime had problems with the samples. They
are 24 Bit, but there is something in the header that makes this
distortion with some applications.

Ray


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Hi All,

I'm very interested in hearing from people using the ESX24 as to what sort
of instruments/sounds come with it? The packaging is extremely limited in
information as to what is included.

Regards,

    Shane


-- 
Shane Fawkes, 
Director of Music, 
Walnut Grove Secondary School,
Langley, B.C. Canada

sfawkes@...

Chuck Levin's Washington Music Center in Wheaton Maryland 301-946-8808. Ask
for Keyboard department. I imagine they accept credit card orders over the
phone. They service a ton of mainstream artists. Good luck.

You can get a free EXS sound CD after you send in the registration card. I
haven't received mine yet.

Sorry I didn't mention it, this e-mail references where I picked up a copy
of the EXS.

> Chuck Levin's Washington Music Center in Wheaton Maryland 301-946-8808. Ask
> for Keyboard department. I imagine they accept credit card orders over the
> phone. They service a ton of mainstream artists. Good luck.

I'm in LA too, but it is not available in this area yet.

I think the rest of the world got it before the westcoast.

I wonder if this is caused by poor management, or too many orders...?



Fred Rapoport wrote:

> hi-
> where did you purchase youer program? i'm in LA and i cant't find it
> anywhere.
> thanks in advance
>


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At 12:04 PM 2/08/00 +0200, you wrote:
>Murray McDowall  wrote:
>
>>The AIFF files that are used in the wizoo kits sound very good but I cannot
>>work with them in the Sample Editor of Logic or in Cool Edit 2000 - both
>>support 24 bit AIFF.  In either app, what you see is a full scale signal
>>until well into the decay tail - if you play back these files you get
>>masses of distortion and then the tail -- as per the display. 
>>
>>What format are these files (32 bit?) and what can you open and edit them in?
>>  
>>Can you use them with the EXS-24?
>
>I havn't tried. But I know Qicktime had problems with the samples. They
>are 24 Bit, but there is something in the header that makes this
>distortion with some applications.

Thanks for the reply Ray. 

Perhaps other apps could open them if the header was stripped?

Murray

>>>The AIFF files that are used in the wizoo kits sound very good but I cannot
>>>work with them in the Sample Editor of Logic or in Cool Edit 2000 - both
>>>support 24 bit AIFF.  In either app, what you see is a full scale signal
>>>until well into the decay tail - if you play back these files you get
>>>masses of distortion and then the tail -- as per the display. 
>>>
>>>What format are these files (32 bit?) and what can you open and edit
>them in?
>>>  
>>>Can you use them with the EXS-24?
>>
>>I havn't tried. But I know Qicktime had problems with the samples. They
>>are 24 Bit, but there is something in the header that makes this
>>distortion with some applications.
>
>Thanks for the reply Ray. 
>
>Perhaps other apps could open them if the header was stripped?

Yes, Logic had no problems with them as far as I remember. I just can't
try since my original CDs are in the studio and I'm at home ;-)

Ray

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The problem that looped objects aren't played in EXS24 is real.
It also applies to Aliases. They simply don't play. I wonder
how that ever went through quality testing - one of *the*
applications of samplers are drum LOOPS.

And by the way, of course loops and aliases work with regular
audio files.

That makes the EXS near unusable. At least I can't do what I
hoped for, i.e. replacing the external sampler with the EXS.

Cheers,
    Henrik

PS: Plus, the audio engine in Platinum 4.5 overloads every 10 
    seconds. I'll move the whole baggage to another machine and
    retest.

--- In exs-users@egroups.com, exs_dude@h... wrote:

> But I've noticed after some experimentation that the EXS appears 
> to be incompatible with the Track Loop, Velocity & Dynamics 
> non-destructive controls in the top left corner of the Logic
arrange 
> window. Does anyone else have this problem? If so, do you 
> know what causes it?
> 
> Another major annoyance: In a track which is looped, only the 
> real phrase triggers sounds, the looping copies do not... 
> anyone? I noticed this is also true if I have all real track
phrases 

> inside a packed folder and loop the folder. The looped copies do 
> not trigger samples. Of course I can work around all of these 
> problems, but they are a major annoyance.

> PS: Plus, the audio engine in Platinum 4.5 overloads every 10
> seconds. I'll move the whole baggage to another machine and
> retest.

This is definitely system-related. I do not have this problem...
-----
The looping problem is supposed to be addressed very soon, according to the
Emagic rep in dialog with the assistant manager of Keyboards in Chuck
Levins, Wheaton, MD. This pisses me off a lot too. I especially agree with
you comments about "quality control". It's pretty amazing. Still I love this
thing. I plan to loop the sections and turn loops to real copies until this
is fixed, which I hope is not long. As you said, it does counter what is a
natural procedure to most of us.

Thanks for your response.

> This pisses me off a lot too. I especially agree with you comments about 
> "quality control". It's pretty amazing. 

Well, I am pretty sure this "bug" has been reported, but the point is that
loops do not work on any VST instrument, so why should they work with EXS24
(unless Emagic has the time to change the whole "looping-concept")?

You are right saying it\ufffds not a good thing that loops don\ufffdt work, but
to be honest this has never(!) kept me from using Logic or working with
the EXS24. It is soooo easy to create real copies (just hit the "R" key)
so where\ufffds the point implying that the EXS24 is not "usable"? I use it
every day in all my projects and it\ufffds a great piece of software.

Of course it will be even better *when* loops work for all VST instruments :-)

Have fun!

Bye
Thomas

At 03:56 AM 13/08/00 +0200, Thomas wrote:

>You are right saying it´s not a good thing that loops don´t work, but
>to be honest this has never(!) kept me from using Logic or working with
>the EXS24. It is soooo easy to create real copies (just hit the "R" key)
>so where´s the point implying that the EXS24 is not "usable"? I use it
>every day in all my projects and it´s a great piece of software.
>
>Of course it will be even better *when* loops work for all VST instruments :-)

I agree completely. In the meantime I use two keycommands.
I select the sequence(s) that I want to loop and hit "L" which loops it and
then "Control-L" which turns loops into real copies. This takes about 1
second. Not bad for a workaround. 

If the "control L' is not active in your keycommands then go into  the
keycommands window and set it (or an alternative) up.

 (This is on PC   -- Mac commands will be different perhaps L then Command L)


Regards,
Murray

Hi all,

Just installed ESX into my LAMP set up, and find it all very interesting.
This is my first exposure to actually using a sampler, and guess I am
looking for guidance/confirmation for starting to build a library.
My primary uses would be oriented towards some of the R n' B horn bands, and
then maybe some acoustic jazz sounds.

My first question pertains to the 2nd Emagic sample CD; the one you receive
after they get your completed registration card. Can anyone tell me what
types of samples are on it, or at least direct me to where I might find that
out?

For starters, I think I'll limit myself to percussion oriented stuff...I'll
deal with other acoustic instruments afterwards. Particularly, I was
intrigued by the 'groove control' percussion examples in the promo that ilio
included. From what you hear of the 'retro funk' and/or the 'liquid grooves'
stuff, they seem to be along the lines of what I'm looking for, but I was
hoping to find some more examples or at least an index of them before I put
down any coin for them. I may have missed it, but didn't find much
additional info at www.ilio.com. Do any of you have any comments/experience
with these products? Any other suggestions that you consider worth me
looking at? 

Thanks in advance, I'm looking forward to lurking, listening, and learning
much around here.


Regards,

    Shane


-- 
Shane Fawkes, 
Director of Music, 
Walnut Grove Secondary School,
Langley, B.C. Canada

sfawkes@...

You quoted me in your remarks... if you had read the previous strings, you
would see that I already shared your prospective, Thomas, and addressed the
very same items you remarked on. I am a diehard supporter of the EXS-24 (see
my user name). In fact, I had already mentioned the "convert to real copies"
command. I'm sure you mean well, but you're preaching to the choir. There
are some people out there on this list that are fairly discouraged, but
thanks to people like you and me, perhaps they'll reconsider.

> From: SBS.TBleicher@...
> Reply-To: exs-users@egroups.com
> Date: Sun, 13 Aug 2000 03:56:23 +0200
> To: exs-users@egroups.com
> Subject: Re:  [exs] Re: Problems with Dynamics, Velocity & Looping -
Aliases, 

> too!
> 
>> This pisses me off a lot too. I especially agree with you comments about
>> "quality control". It's pretty amazing.
> 
> Well, I am pretty sure this "bug" has been reported, but the point is that
> loops do not work on any VST instrument, so why should they work with EXS24
> (unless Emagic has the time to change the whole "looping-concept")?
> 
> You are right saying it´s not a good thing that loops don´t work, but
> to be honest this has never(!) kept me from using Logic or working with
> the EXS24. It is soooo easy to create real copies (just hit the "R" key)
> so where´s the point implying that the EXS24 is not "usable"? I use it
> every day in all my projects and it´s a great piece of software.
> 
> Of course it will be even better *when* loops work for all VST instruments :-)
> 
> Have fun!
> 
> Bye
> Thomas

Logic User  wrote:

>The looping problem is supposed to be addressed very soon, according to the
>Emagic rep in dialog with the assistant manager of Keyboards in Chuck
>Levins, Wheaton, MD. This pisses me off a lot too. I especially agree with
>you comments about "quality control". It's pretty amazing. Still I love this
>thing. I plan to loop the sections and turn loops to real copies until this
>is fixed, which I hope is not long.

I wouln't be sure about this. It's allready lasting over 8 months this
annoying bug....

Ray

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ICQ: 17201606                    |_     68159 Mannheim
Fon +49 (0) 621 48044 60           |_    Germany
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>Shane Fawkes <sfawkes@...> wrote:
>...
>My first question pertains to the 2nd Emagic sample CD; the one you receive
>after they get your completed registration card. Can anyone tell me what
>types of samples are on it, or at least direct me to where I might find that
>out?

Since there are (unfortunately?) two user-lists related to EXS24, some
"cross-posts" seem to be inevitable.
So here\ufffds the answer to your question as posted by Peter Gorges, the owner
of the other list and programmer of the Factory-Sample-CD:

<<<

Instrument	Category		MB
___________________________________
12 String Dual	A. Guitar		9,3
AcGuitFretNoise	A. Guitar		0,6
Alto Sax		Woodwind		0,5
AnalogHarp	Poly		0,8
B3 Dry Full	Organ		0,2
B3 Dry Jazz	Organ		0,4
B3 Jazz Slow/Fast	Organ		7,5
B3 Slow-Fast	Organ		16,0
Brass Section	Brass		17,1
Church Choir	Choir		23,2
Clavinet		Percussive	3,8
Clean Guitar	E. Guitar		6,4
Digital Choir	Choir		19,1
DirectX		Synth Bass	0,5
DX Danca		Percussive	3,9
DX FunkFinga	E. Guitar		4,1
DX Strato		E.Guitar		3,4
EXS 808		E. Drums		4,4
EXS 909		E. Drums		2,4
EXS Strings 1	Strings		8,9
EXS Strings 2	Strings		18,8
Finger Bass	E. Bass		4,3
Finger Nylon	A. Guitar		5,2
FM Piano		Percussive	5,6
Flute		Brass		6,4
Fretless Bass	E. Bass		4,5
GM Standard Kit	A. Drums		3,2
HHLoopz		Drum Loops	6,6
Lead Guitar	E. Guitar		17,5
Mark II		E. Piano		10,2
Massive Pad	Pad		5,1
MiniLead		Lead		3,9
Multimoog Bass 1	Synth Bass	1,7
Multimoog Bass 2	Synth Bass	5,2
Multimoog Bass 3	Synth Bass	1,6
Muted Guitar	E. Guitar		2,6
OBX Horns		Poly		7,2
Orchestra FX	FX		8,0
Pick Bass		E. Bass		1,4
PluccBass		Synth Bass	0,3
RudeLoopz Demo	Drum Loops	3,9
SFX		FX		6,3
Slap Bass		E. Bass		2,7
Slap Bass 2	E. Bass		4,2
SpitLead		Lead		3,1
Steel String Guitar	A. Guitar		2,8
Stereo Drums	A. Drums		44,7
Stereo Grand	Grand		30,7
Suitcase		E. Piano		10,6
SyncLead		Lead		3,2
Teabi Bass	Synth Bass	0,4
TekStrynx	Poly		2,8
Tenor Sax		Woodwind		0,9
Tenor Section	Brass		11,0
Voice Lead		Lead		2,8
Warm Pad		Pad		3,3
Wave Sweepa	Digital Synth	5,0
Wave Ultimate	Digital Synth	4,9
Waveform Saw	Waveform		0,1
Wurlitzer		E. Piano		7,7

>>>


As you can see, the instruments that came with the original EXS24 CD are
excerpts from the 2nd CD, so from their kind and quality you can conclude
to the CD to come.

Furthermore, about availability of the CD, on August 11th was written:
"As you may imagine, we had to wait for the EXS release version in
order to finalize the samples, this is the reason why this CD-ROM is
delayed to the EXS. However, AFAIK it's gets mastered currently."

If you want that kind of info "first hand" in the future,
subscribe to "exs24-list@..."
at http://www.wizoo.de/areas.htm .

(hope you don\ufffdt mind, Joeri)

Cheers,
Albo

--- In exs-users@egroups.com, Shane Fawkes <sfawkes@d...> 
wrote:

> For starters, I think I'll limit myself to percussion oriented 
stuff...I'll
> deal with other acoustic instruments afterwards. Particularly, I 
was
> intrigued by the 'groove control' percussion examples in the 
promo that ilio
> included. From what you hear of the 'retro funk' and/or the 
'liquid grooves'
> stuff, they seem to be along the lines of what I'm looking for, 
but I was
> hoping to find some more examples or at least an index of 
them before I put
> down any coin for them. I may have missed it, but didn't find 
much
> additional info at www.ilio.com. Do any of you have any 
comments/experience
> with these products? Any other suggestions that you consider 
worth me
> looking at? 
> 
Ineresting that you should mention Groove Control and 
RetroFunk because I own just about every Spectrasonic disc 
there is.
Eric Persing is so amazing and those products are worth every 
cent.
So here's the scoop for you EXS24 owners........I'm not one yet 
but I've just spent two days with a friend who made the purchase 
and I can convey to you that.............it don't work!!!
There are two main problems with the EXS24...this is my 
contention so please tell me I'm wrong.
The first and biggest is that the Akai conversion does not work 
properly.
1. About a third of the instruments or programs don't show up in 
the EXS24 Akai conversion window. They do show up in 
Osmosis and Interpreter...these are two Akai conversion 
prog.........they only convert to Sample Cell though.
2 Of the instruments that do show up only some can be 
translated. The others simply won't convert.
With the Akai S3000 Danny Jaeger violin library disk not even a 
third of the prog could be translated.
Converting an entire Partition containing 20 instruments resulted 
in just 2 instruments being converted. You can't even individually 
select the other instruments and convert......nothing happens.
The other main problem....and this only occured with 
RetroGrooves.......is that of the samples that do convert. all have 
an almighty click at the start of them. So your sequence sounds 
like type writers.
Ahhhh!!!  you say just shorten the "Start Fixed" amount and all will 
be well............no it won't . You lose the dynamic attack of the 
instrument....because the click will disappear from some 
samples and not others so by the time you've shortened the start 
time you've ruined half the samples. The work around is to 
individually shorten every sample in the editor.
With Retro Grooves there are sometimes over 100 samples in 
one prog!! Forget it.
As someone with a large investment in Akai and SampleCell CD 
roms I am going to wait untill Emagic get this right before I 
purchase.
If you can't translate the vast library available then why make the 
investment?
Oh by the way Akai S1000 disks translated ok.........but they 
sound so awful these days.....who could be bothered.
So I am really saying that the S3000 conversion doesn't work yet.
Why advertise that it does?
Phil Buckle.

I think all of the concerns expressed about the EXS are all very valid. The
alternative, however, is that the EXS could have been substantially delayed
in its already-painfully-late release. I, for one, am glad it's here. It is
very, very good at importing huge dumps of percussion samples from AIFF,
making audio CDs a completely viable source for sound libraries. Here is an
example of how to do this process from start to finish.

Extract the audio from a CD using the Toast Audio Extractor. Then open in
Peak. Then split by threshold into regions. Export the regions to AIFF. Open
EXS and go to the Map editor. Go to the Zones menu. Then select Load
Multiple Samples. Then select the Chromatic import method. This will dump
each sample into a Zone (layer) of the instrument from C1 on up,
automatically setting the proper key pitch for each sample (one of my
favorite features of this sampler along with the zero latency). Save the
instrument. You are done.

This process is amazing in and of itself. The Unity DS-1 can also do this,
but it has a terrible latency problem and unreliable note-off accuracy (you
really notice this flaw when using percussion sounds). I should add that I'm
referring to the Unity with Rewire in effect (a requirement in my opinion).
Overall, the process of doing this in the EXS is much faster anyway. I am
very pleased at this capability, but sympathize with concerns about
conversion. I am really looking forward to such advancements. Hope this
helps a few folks.

I forgot to mention: I believe Peak also extracts audio so it's not
necessary to have Toast.

> 
> Well, I am pretty sure this "bug" has been reported, but the 
point is that
> loops do not work on any VST instrument, so why should they 
work with EXS24
> (unless Emagic has the time to change the whole 
"looping-concept")?
> 
Because it is not a VST instrument, it is a Logic propietary 
instrument over which they have complete control over the host 
and the instrument. I have to agree that is is not useful for drums 
until looping works. It does however sound very good. Too the 
point where I won't be able to give up my Akai samplers because 
the EXS 24 is too pristine sounding. Drums have a certain sound 
when they come from the Akai samplers, rough, big, a little dirty. 
That's a good thing though. I think the EXS 24 will be great for the 
acoustic instruments. Which raises my quest of several years. 
Anybody know of a piano sample set that really sounds good. I 
mean actually good, not just good playing one or two notes. One 
that sounds like a piano when you are playing chords in a track. 
Thanks for suggestions.

Steve

Get the GeneralMusic Pro2

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Steven Smith [mailto:steveaini@...]
> Sent: Tuesday, August 22, 2000 7:29 AM
> To: exs-users@egroups.com
> Subject: [exs] Re: Problems with Dynamics, Velocity & Looping - Aliases,
> too!
> 
> 
> Anybody know of a piano sample set that really sounds good. I 
> mean actually good, not just good playing one or two notes. One 
> that sounds like a piano when you are playing chords in a track. 
> Thanks for suggestions.
> 
> Steve
> 
> 
> 
> 
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At 01:21 AM 2/08/00 +0000, you wrote:
>I just purchased the EXS and I absolutely love it. VST 
>compatibility, sample-accurate timing and chromatic 
>auto-mapping of all my drum hit AIFF files is more than I 
>dreamed possible in the same package.

I use an LM4 with Logic Audio Platiunum (PC). 

The AIFF files that are used in the wizoo kits sound very good but I cannot
work with them in the Sample Editor of Logic or in Cool Edit 2000 - both
support 24 bit AIFF.  In either app, what you see is a full scale signal
until well into the decay tail - if you play back these files you get
masses of distortion and then the tail -- as per the display. 

What format are these files (32 bit?) and what can you open and edit them in?
  
Can you use them with the EXS-24?

Regards,
Murray