EXS 24 Logic Sampler Users Group

Hi all,
 
Just joined today and I hope I can get an answer about my problem with
the EXS24.
 
Until recently I was using Logic and the EXS under Windows Millennium,
everything worked fine.
 
Now I have installed XP and after some problems with my AMT8 everything
seems to work fine except.. when I play an instrument on the EXS
directly from my keyboard there is a delay of 0.5 seconds. When I record
what I play and play back then everything is alright. No delay and the
midi is correctly recorded.
This is very strange. Midi arrives on time because when I play one of my
synthesisers there is no delay, only when I directly access the EXS and
this is gone when I play back. This seems a mystery to me. Has anyone
experienced this same thing? Does it have to do with XP?
 
I am at a loss here.
 
Can someone help me?
 
Thanks in advance
 
Rudie Vissenberg


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.. when I play an instrument on the EXS
directly from my keyboard there is a delay of 0.5 seconds. When I record
what I play and play back then everything is alright. No delay and the
midi is correctly recorded.

I have LAW 5.01 and WinXP and I can play the exs24 from my keyboard with only 4ms latency (Aardvark LX6 with new XP-driver), so this has nothing to do with WinXP. I guess you have to do some tunig in asiodriver settings on your audiocard.

Thor Mamen



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And your audiocard is.......?

James

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Rudie Vissenberg wrote:
>Now I have installed XP and after some problems with my AMT8 everything
>seems to work fine except.. when I play an instrument on the EXS
>directly from my keyboard there is a delay of 0.5 seconds. When I record
>what I play and play back then everything is alright. No delay and the
>midi is correctly recorded.

Hi Rudie,

This is the latency of your audio hardware at the current settings. To get
low latency (fast response of EXS sounds to midi input) you need a low
latency audio card eg AudioWerk8 if you already have one or an audio
interface card with a good ASIO driver like the M-Audio Delta series
(starts at Audiophile 24/96) RME Hammerfall/Multiface are even better if
you can afford them. Echo Layla Mona etc are also good from all reports.

Sounds to me like you are using an MME driver for something a bit lower
down the food chain.

Better break out the plastic ;-)

Regards,
M

Hi all again.
 
Thanks for your answers but I am sorry that I did not send a precise
set-up list of my equipment:
 
I installed Windows XP (English version), Pentium Celeron 950, A Open
AX6BC motherboard, 512 MB memory, AW8, 2* 40GB hard disks, AGP 16 MB
video card,  AudioWerk8, EXS24 and ES1, JV880, SC155 and the old beast
Fender Rhodes Chroma (still working through a midi-interface).
 
The AudioWerk8 should have a latency that is low enough to give a direct
response. It always did under Millennium. 
I installed the latest drivers for all the equipment and let Logic set
the virtual memory to 768 MB.
 
Any comments on this or advice?
 
Thanks in advance

-----Original Message-----
From: Rudie Vissenberg [mailto:rudie.vissenberg@...] 
Sent: maandag 15 april 2002 11:01
To: 'exs-users@egroups.com'
Subject: delay after installing Logic and EXS on WinXP
 
Hi all,
 
Just joined today and I hope I can get an answer about my problem with
the EXS24.
 
Until recently I was using Logic and the EXS under Windows Millennium,
everything worked fine.
 
Now I have installed XP and after some problems with my AMT8 everything
seems to work fine except.. when I play an instrument on the EXS
directly from my keyboard there is a delay of 0.5 seconds. When I record
what I play and play back then everything is alright. No delay and the
midi is correctly recorded.
This is very strange. Midi arrives on time because when I play one of my
synthesisers there is no delay, only when I directly access the EXS and
this is gone when I play back. This seems a mystery to me. Has anyone
experienced this same thing? Does it have to do with XP?
 
I am at a loss here.
 
Can someone help me?
 
Thanks in advance
 
Rudie Vissenberg


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Hi Rudie!
You need advice from someone else but me for tuning your AudioWerk8 driver.... .

For tweaking WindowsXP take a look at this link:

http://www.tweakxp.com/tweakxp/performance_tweaks.asp

I have free up alot CPU by following some advice from here.

Thor Mamen

----- Original Message ----- 
  I installed Windows XP (English version), Pentium Celeron 950, A Open
  AX6BC motherboard, 512 MB memory, AW8, 2* 40GB hard disks, AGP 16 MB
  video card,  AudioWerk8, EXS24 and ES1, JV880, SC155 and the old beast
  Fender Rhodes Chroma (still working through a midi-interface).

  The AudioWerk8 should have a latency that is low enough to give a direct
  response. It always did under Millennium. 
  I installed the latest drivers for all the equipment and let Logic set
  the virtual memory to 768 MB.
  Any comments on this or advice?

  Thanks in advance

  -----Original Message-----
  From: Rudie Vissenberg [mailto:rudie.vissenberg@...] 
  Sent: maandag 15 april 2002 11:01
  To: 'exs-users@egroups.com'
  Subject: delay after installing Logic and EXS on WinXP

  Hi all,

  Just joined today and I hope I can get an answer about my problem with
  the EXS24.

  Until recently I was using Logic and the EXS under Windows Millennium,
  everything worked fine.

  Now I have installed XP and after some problems with my AMT8 everything
  seems to work fine except.. when I play an instrument on the EXS
  directly from my keyboard there is a delay of 0.5 seconds. When I record
  what I play and play back then everything is alright. No delay and the
  midi is correctly recorded.
  This is very strange. Midi arrives on time because when I play one of my
  synthesisers there is no delay, only when I directly access the EXS and
  this is gone when I play back. This seems a mystery to me. Has anyone
  experienced this same thing? Does it have to do with XP?

  I am at a loss here.

  Can someone help me?

  Thanks in advance

  Rudie Vissenberg


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> Has anyone
>   experienced this same thing? Does it have to do with XP?
>
>   I am at a loss here.
>
>   Can someone help me?
>
>   Thanks in advance
>
>   Rudie Vissenberg


Rudie:

After spending the last three weeks pulling hair and fighting latency issues
with a Midiman Audiophile and a Echo MIA on both an older Windows 2000
computer and a brand new one, I can recommend the following:

Latency and/or "ClicksandPops" issues boil down to two things under
Windows2000 and XP.

1. Card drivers.

2. IRQ Sharing or conflicts.

Any audio card _cannot_ share or confict with another device under Windows.
This is much more of an issue with 2000 and XP than with Win98 due to the
way these newer OS's handle IRQ assignments.

Sounds like your drivers are up-to-date. Make sure that after you upgraded
to XP from Me, that your Audiowerk card isn't sharing IRQ's with something
else. Your card needs to be on one IRQ all by it's lonesome. And IRQ 9 is
not a good choice, as this IRQ is used by ACPI management for IRQ sharing.
Also sharing with a video device is BAD, due to the buss bandwidth used by
video cards.

( BTW, IRQ sharing is acceptable to 2000/XP, the Hardware Device Manager
won't indicate a problem.)



Douglas Harris

Can someone post the link to the completed EXS files that correspond to the
akai ftp site in Japan? Thanks -Jer

Jer <HELP@...>  wrote:
>Can someone post the link to the completed EXS files that correspond to the
>akai ftp site in Japan? Thanks -Jer

http://www.cone.nl/test/exs.htm

> Jer <HELP@...>  wrote:
>> Can someone post the link to the completed EXS files that correspond to the
>> akai ftp site in Japan? Thanks -Jer
> 
> http://www.cone.nl/test/exs.htm

Thanks!