EXS 24 Logic Sampler Users Group

So you have some really good string samples, right? But do you _really_ 
know the difference between detache and ricochet? Do you know how to 
sautille near the frog? :-)

Check out these excellent QuickTime videos from the University of Vermont:

http://www.uvm.edu/~mhopkins/?Page=movies.html


Ned


http://www.nedfx.com

       Ned Bouhalassa

n e d @ n e d f x . c o m

Very helpful insight. Thank you. -Jer

> From: Ned Bouhalassa <ned@...>
> Organization: nedfx.com
> Reply-To: exs-users@yahoogroups.com
> Date: Wed, 18 Sep 2002 17:13:50 -0400
> To: exs-users@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [exs] Movies on bowing
> 
> So you have some really good string samples, right? But do you _really_
> know the difference between detache and ricochet? Do you know how to
> sautille near the frog? :-)
> 
> Check out these excellent QuickTime videos from the University of Vermont:
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> http://www.uvm.edu/~mhopkins/?Page=movies.html
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> Ned
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> http://www.nedfx.com
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> Ned Bouhalassa
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Has any one read the SOS article this month about John Digweed and Nick
Muir?
This is a quote from it:

'When I'm using the EXS24, I'll go back the next day and find the tuning's
knocked out a little bit for some reason'

Something tells me they've not paid for their software......surprising
really - I'd have thought they were raking it in!

Nick Loe
SAS, 6 Salem Road, London, W2 4BU
nloe@...
Tel: 020 7243 3232  Mob: 07904 102 064  Fax: 020 7243 3216




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On 9/23/02 8:58 AM, "Nick Loe" <nloe@...> wrote:

> Has any one read the SOS article this month about John Digweed and Nick
> Muir?
> This is a quote from it:
> 
> 'When I'm using the EXS24, I'll go back the next day and find the tuning's
> knocked out a little bit for some reason'
> 
> Something tells me they've not paid for their software......surprising
> really - I'd have thought they were raking it in!

Interesting conundrum. Emagic/Apple really have to get on his case, and get
him to admit publicly in the next issue that he was using a crack, if he
was,  because otherwise many people will assume that if someone as high
profile as him says a certain software is faulty, then it is.

On the other hand, I believe there were a few situations where a legal copy
could have tuning problems also...

Malcolm
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Malcolm Payne Music
NYC
http://www.malcolmpayne.com

Malcolm Payne wrote:
> On the other hand, I believe there were a few situations where a legal
copy
> could have tuning problems also...

I do indeed remember something like that as well.
In addition I couldn't even imagine an author of a wellknown mag such as SOS
would even think about using a cracked version for a serious testride.
That'd be the most stupid thing to do and they should have no single problem
with getting a legit version at all.

Best,
Sascha

It was an interview so it wasn't a matter of the SOS people 
testing it.  It was just what the interviewee said.

That said I have owned the EXS24 since it was released and 
never had a single tuning problem.  The only possible 
explanation is if they have errant MIDI messages flying around 
when they happen to have an Audio Inst. (with EXS) selected.  
Sometimes my Z1 will send something that cranks a band of the 
Fat EQ gain up to +18dB.

I did catch that part when I first read the article and immediately 
thought 'crack.'....which of course leads the average reader to 
think, 'if they do it, why shouldn't we?'

--- In exs-users@y..., "Sascha Franck" <saschafranck@s...> 
wrote:
> Malcolm Payne wrote:
> > On the other hand, I believe there were a few situations 
where a legal
> copy
> > could have tuning problems also...
> 
> I do indeed remember something like that as well.
> In addition I couldn't even imagine an author of a wellknown 
mag such as SOS
> would even think about using a cracked version for a serious 
testride.
> That'd be the most stupid thing to do and they should have no 
single problem

> with getting a legit version at all.
> 
> Best,
> Sascha

On 9/23/02 1:13 PM, "Malcolm Payne" <alt@...> wrote:

> On 9/23/02 8:58 AM, "Nick Loe" <nloe@...> wrote:
> 
>> > Has any one read the SOS article this month about John Digweed and Nick
>> > Muir?
>> > This is a quote from it:
>> > 
>> > 'When I'm using the EXS24, I'll go back the next day and find the tuning's
>> > knocked out a little bit for some reason'
>> > 
>> > Something tells me they've not paid for their software......surprising
>> > really - I'd have thought they were raking it in!
> 
> Interesting conundrum. Emagic/Apple really have to get on his case, and get
> him to admit publicly in the next issue that he was using a crack, if he
> was,  because otherwise many people will assume that if someone as high
> profile as him says a certain software is faulty, then it is.
> 
> On the other hand, I believe there were a few situations where a legal copy
> could have tuning problems also...
> 
> Malcolm


Something very strange happened to me the other day. I opened a song I
hadn¹t worked on in a while, and everything seemed out of tune ­ EXS, Audio,
Midi (via Inputs). I couldn¹t figure out which tracks were good and which
were bad it was such a mess. I ended up opening one of the backups of the
song and everything was fine. Very weird.

Eric
(with completely legit SW)


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Someone should write to SOS so they can print a retraction, if the situation
warrants it. No licensed users that I know have ever had that problem
either.

> From: "golanalog" <golanalog@...>
> Reply-To: exs-users@yahoogroups.com
> Date: Tue, 24 Sep 2002 00:05:28 -0000
> To: exs-users@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: Re: [exs] SOS John Digweed article...
> 
> It was an interview so it wasn't a matter of the SOS people
> testing it.  It was just what the interviewee said.
> 
> That said I have owned the EXS24 since it was released and
> never had a single tuning problem.  The only possible
> explanation is if they have errant MIDI messages flying around
> when they happen to have an Audio Inst. (with EXS) selected.
> Sometimes my Z1 will send something that cranks a band of the
> Fat EQ gain up to +18dB.
> 
> I did catch that part when I first read the article and immediately
> thought 'crack.'....which of course leads the average reader to
> think, 'if they do it, why shouldn't we?'

Hmmmm. OK... I "retract" my last statement. ;-) Jer

> Something very strange happened to me the other day. I opened a song I
> hadn¹t worked on in a while, and everything seemed out of tune ­ EXS, Audio,
> Midi (via Inputs). I couldn¹t figure out which tracks were good and which
> were bad it was such a mess. I ended up opening one of the backups of the
> song and everything was fine. Very weird.
> 
> Eric
> (with completely legit SW)

It does sound like the interviewee¹s problem was more like the crack
problem, though - EXS slightly out each time. This particular song of mine
was a complete mess and if that¹s what this interviewee experienced he¹d
have a lot worse things to say. My problem was a one time occurrence and
easily fixed. Maybe the key wasn¹t initially read correctly? Don¹t know.

Eric

On 9/23/02 7:41 PM, "HELP@..." <HELP@...> wrote:

> Hmmmm. OK... I "retract" my last statement. ;-) Jer
> 
>> > Something very strange happened to me the other day. I opened a song I
>> > hadn¹t worked on in a while, and everything seemed out of tune ­ EXS,
>> Audio,
>> > Midi (via Inputs). I couldn¹t figure out which tracks were good and which
>> > were bad it was such a mess. I ended up opening one of the backups of the
>> > song and everything was fine. Very weird.
>> > 
>> > Eric
>> > (with completely legit SW)
> 



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Now THAT is very funny.

I can't remember when a posting made me laugh like that.

Nice find.

Evan

--- In exs-users@y..., Nick Loe <nloe@s...> wrote:
> Has any one read the SOS article this month about John Digweed and Nick
> Muir?
> This is a quote from it:
> 
> 'When I'm using the EXS24, I'll go back the next day and find the
tuning's

> knocked out a little bit for some reason'
> 
> Something tells me they've not paid for their software......surprising
> really - I'd have thought they were raking it in!
> 
> Nick Loe
> SAS, 6 Salem Road, London, W2 4BU
> nloe@s...
> Tel: 020 7243 3232  Mob: 07904 102 064  Fax: 020 7243 3216
> 
> 
> 
> 
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> > 
> > 'When I'm using the EXS24, I'll go back the next day and find the
> tuning's
> > knocked out a little bit for some reason'
> > 
Just a small perspective - I've been using EXS24 preset sounds (yes, 
dull!) on a bunch of stuff recently, and generally they are between 10 
and 30 cents flat to A440, although they don't vary on each opening of 
the file. I suppose a "casual" user might interpret the difference 
betwwen user samples and presets as a fault with EXS24?
Just a thought...