EXS 24 Logic Sampler Users Group

I have an alias to my EXSamples folder, which is on a separate disk, 
in the Sampler Instruments folder (which is in the same folder as 
Logic). What doesn't work is having an alias to the folder containing 
the EXSamples folder - it quite understandably gets confused.

"Why the hell would he want to do that?!" you ask. Because I have one 
big folder with samples in various formats, and I'd like to be able 
to open them in different soft samplers: EXS, Halion, and Soft 
SampleCell.
-- 

Nick Batzdorf
818/905-9101, fax -5434, cell 818/601-4874

Thoughts from the mind of Nick Batzdorf, 22-12-2002:

>I have an alias to my EXSamples folder, which is on a separate disk,
>in the Sampler Instruments folder (which is in the same folder as
>Logic). What doesn't work is having an alias to the folder containing
>the EXSamples folder - it quite understandably gets confused.
>
>"Why the hell would he want to do that?!" you ask. Because I have one
>big folder with samples in various formats, and I'd like to be able
>to open them in different soft samplers: EXS, Halion, and Soft
>SampleCell.

 From the above I don't quite understand what you try to do... 
However, I hope you do realise that you can rename aliasses?  So the 
(real) folder containing the samples could be called "All My Samples" 
and reside on harddisk B.  Then you could put an alias in the Logic 
folder (which might be on harddisk A) and call that "EXSamples", and 
have another alias to this same folder in another application's 
folder, and rename the alias to something appropriate for _that_ 
application, etc.
So you could put an alias to the folder containing the EXSamples 
folder in the Logic folder, and rename that alias to EXSamples... 
And yes, this means you'd have an alias called EXSamples, which 
points to a real folder called "Some name", which in turn contains a 
folder called "EXSamples".  This might be somewhat confusing as the 
EXSamples alias has nothing to do with the EXSamples folder (everyone 
still there? ;-)

And (not responding to the above but to something else I just read 
here): this entire mess of EXSamples, Akai Samples, Soundfont 
Samples, and whichever other folder Logic likes to come up with is 
complete bollocks.  There's no problem in putting all those samples 
in one folder on whichever disk.  Then put an alias to this folder in 
the Logic folder, and call the alias "EXSamples" and you're done.

Uhm... rethinking the above: you don't even have to have an alias 
called EXSamples in your Logic folder at all.  The EXS will simply 
scan all your disks until it find the proper samples...  So... what's 
the problem anyway?

-- 
Hendrik Jan Veenstra  <h@...>

*** NEW LOCATION *** Omega Art: http://www.omega-art.com

Exactly, the EXsamples folder can reside anywhere, and there 
can be multiple EXSamples folders, and split across several 
drives even, EXS24 and or Logic is simply going to scan all the 
drives until it finds the proper audio, and in some cases, it may 
even find multiple copies if you have different copies of the same 
sample.

I was running out of drive space, so I had an EXSamples 1 on 
my audio drive, and an EXSamples 2 on a firewire disk, and 
then some of my samples were just in various folders arranged 
by the sample cd that they came from. 

EXS24 will find them all.........

... just as a reminder (and i know i am repeating myself, but knowing this
fact really helped me a lot), when you all are moving and renaming and
aliasing files of the exs you will loose _a lot_ of its load speed. once you
moved, renamed and whatnot-ed the files you will have to load each of your
instruments for the exs to update the initial filepath it searches. so
depending on how big your library is it should be thought of before
reorganizing files.

i really hope this will be history with 6.0

mxs.
u.

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<uswitalski@...> wrote:
> ... just as a reminder (and i know i am repeating myself, but knowing this
> fact really helped me a lot), when you all are moving and renaming and
> aliasing files of the exs you will loose _a lot_ of its load speed. once
you
> moved, renamed and whatnot-ed the files you will have to load each of your
> instruments for the exs to update the initial filepath it searches. so
> depending on how big your library is it should be thought of before
> reorganizing files.

As sad as it is: Reorganizing files under LAW is almost no issue. The EXS
will relocate its samples for all my patches (around 4500) in 2 hours, using
the "original Andrea Gozzi trick" (setting up a sequence doing the "next"
patch job).
Let alone that there is the brilliant EXS manager (again by A.Gozzi).

Mac users apparently suffer WAY more whenever they're reorganizing their
files.
Using aliases has no impact on the EXS speed on Windows either, it's just
loading patches almost as instant as a hardware device, if not faster.

A lot of these things apparently have to do with LAM (or the EXS) not
caching any file directories or whatever. Under Windows, for example, the
last used filepath is cached, so if the EXS needs to "refind" a second bunch
of samples it will start straight at the place it located the previous
patch's samples which makes the whole process a LOT faster.

Just recently I've been at a friend's place, he's got a (wellconfigured it
seems) DP 1GHz Mac and it was truly dissapointing to see the EXS instrument
menu being as slow as on a P133 with 32MB of RAM or so. The same was true
vice versa, when he was over at my place he was simply amazed about HOW fast
the EXS would load its patches. FWIW, we have around the same amount of
patches.

But well, we're moving on to the superior OS, aren't we? Sorry, couldn't
resist...

Sascha
(now concentrating on the x-mas/family deal, actually a very nice thing, see
you folks in a few days)

I wonder if this has improved in OSX!?

> 
> Mac users apparently suffer WAY more whenever they're reorganizing their
> files.
> Using aliases has no impact on the EXS speed on Windows either, it's just
> loading patches almost as instant as a hardware device, if not faster.

--- In exs-users@yahoogroups.com, <HELP@M...> wrote:
> I wonder if this has improved in OSX!?
> > 
> > Mac users apparently suffer WAY more whenever they're 
reorganizing their
> > files.
> > Using aliases has no impact on the EXS speed on Windows 
either, it's just
> > loading patches almost as instant as a hardware device, if 
not faster.

This has NOT been improved in OSX, I sorry to say.. I can´t really 
grasp what the problem is. But in my case doing the "midi patch 
change trick" don´t give me back the speed that I have when the  
AKAI CD´s are newly converted..