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'ello guys 'n gals,

Anybody of you have experience using multiple monitors (on 
Mac) for Logic? I'm thinking of adding a second monitor solely for 
the audioside of things, so that every plugin (read: exs24/other 
vst-instruments) that I open will do so on the other monitor, 
instead of cluttering my view all the time...

Any advice highly appreciated!
...oh, and all of you a fantastic 2003!

Best,
O.

> 'ello guys 'n gals,
> 
> Anybody of you have experience using multiple monitors (on
> Mac) for Logic? I'm thinking of adding a second monitor solely for
> the audioside of things, so that every plugin (read: exs24/other
> vst-instruments) that I open will do so on the other monitor,
> instead of cluttering my view all the time...
> 
> Any advice highly appreciated!

well... you will never want to go back to a single monitor system.

;)

make sure to get a fast card. the village tronic mdd (?) i am using makes
redraws take up to 5 seconds on a g4 / 400!

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...Ouch, that sounds it could be even more frustrating than a 
cluttered screen..:)
Alrighty, thanx for your input!
Just to be sure: how do you go about designing screensets with 
two monitors? How do u make sure your plugs are opened on 
the second screen..?
Thanx,
O.





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<uswitalski@y...> wrote:
> > 'ello guys 'n gals,
> > 
> > Anybody of you have experience using multiple monitors (on
> > Mac) for Logic? I'm thinking of adding a second monitor 
solely for
> > the audioside of things, so that every plugin (read: 
exs24/other
> > vst-instruments) that I open will do so on the other monitor,
> > instead of cluttering my view all the time...
> > 
> > Any advice highly appreciated!
> 
> well... you will never want to go back to a single monitor 
system.
> 
> ;)
> 
> make sure to get a fast card. the village tronic mdd (?) i am 
using makes
> redraws take up to 5 seconds on a g4 / 400!
> 
> 
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on 1/5/03 12:57 PM, darealbasoski <mail@...> at
mail@... wrote:

> 'ello guys 'n gals,
> 
> Anybody of you have experience using multiple monitors (on
> Mac) for Logic? I'm thinking of adding a second monitor solely for
> the audioside of things, so that every plugin (read: exs24/other
> vst-instruments) that I open will do so on the other monitor,
> instead of cluttering my view all the time...
> 
> Any advice highly appreciated!
> ...oh, and all of you a fantastic 2003!
> 
> Best,
> O.


I use two Sony E540s with a G4800dp.  It's good for viewing mixers and
arrangements at the same time...various windows. I had to get an ATI Raedon
card for the2nd monitor.  With my MAC if I had gotten an Apple monitor, I
wouldn't have needed the card.  But those large Apple monitors are still too
expensive.  The 23" inch is a beaut.

DC

I can vouch for that. I've been using 2 for a year at least and I'd never go
back. -Jer

> well... you will never want to go back to a single monitor system.

It's as easy as using one screen but twice as powerful. Ex: One screen for
arrange, the other for the environment, mixers, etc. Twice as much at your
fingertips for every screen(s) shot. It's very straight forward.

>> Anybody of you have experience using multiple monitors (on
>> Mac) for Logic? I'm thinking of adding a second monitor solely for
>> the audioside of things, so that every plugin (read: exs24/other
>> vst-instruments) that I open will do so on the other monitor,
>> instead of cluttering my view all the time...

> well... you will never want to go back to a single monitor system.
>
> ;)
>
> make sure to get a fast card. the village tronic mdd (?) i am using 
> makes
> redraws take up to 5 seconds on a g4 / 400!
>
No problem here on G4/533DP. Redraws are nice and snappy
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--- Dan Chapman <dan@...> wrote: 
> > Anybody of you have experience using multiple monitors (on
> > Mac) for Logic? I'm thinking of adding a second monitor solely for
> > the audioside of things, so that every plugin (read: exs24/other
> > vst-instruments) that I open will do so on the other monitor,
> > instead of cluttering my view all the time...
> I use two Sony E540s with a G4800dp.  It's good for viewing mixers and
> arrangements at the same time...various windows. I had to get an ATI Raedon
> card for the2nd monitor.  With my MAC if I had gotten an Apple monitor, I
> wouldn't have needed the card.  But those large Apple monitors are still
> too
> expensive.  The 23" inch is a beaut.

Its highly reccommended. Very useful for multiple windows, and yeah,
screensets work on both monitors simultaneously. 

Re: The above comment - all powermacs come with dual head capable GFX cards
these days. Normally you have both an ADC and DVI connector on the card. You
get a DVI->VGA converter, but the ADC can only be used with expensive apple
LCD monitors. HOWEVER, I just bought a "Dr Botts ADC VGA Extractor" for just
under 20 quid (from the Apple UK web store) which converts from ADC to VGA
which works a treat.  Decent cheap solution  - *much* cheaper than a 2nd
card, and in theory shouldnt use as many system resources as a second card so
better in general for performance.

HTH,

~Pev

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on 1/6/03 2:03 AM, Pev at no_such_user@... wrote:

> Its highly reccommended. Very useful for multiple windows, and yeah,
> screensets work on both monitors simultaneously.
> 
> Re: The above comment - all powermacs come with dual head capable GFX cards
> these days. Normally you have both an ADC and DVI connector on the card. You
> get a DVI->VGA converter, but the ADC can only be used with expensive apple
> LCD monitors. HOWEVER, I just bought a "Dr Botts ADC VGA Extractor" for just
> under 20 quid (from the Apple UK web store) which converts from ADC to VGA
> which works a treat.  Decent cheap solution  - *much* cheaper than a 2nd
> card, and in theory shouldnt use as many system resources as a second card so
> better in general for performance.
> 
> HTH,
> 
> ~Pev

I'd just like to say...beware of cheap solutions.  This is not to denigrate
your product, Pev.  I tried an advertised converter that was guaranteed to
work by my sales person at ClubMac.  It worked, but I had to turn off one
monitor before starting up every time.  It became a big hassle.  It wasn't
worth the savings.  So I returned it and got the card.

peace,

Dan

--- Dan Chapman <dan@...> wrote: 
> I'd just like to say...beware of cheap solutions.  This is not to denigrate
> your product, Pev.  I tried an advertised converter that was guaranteed to
> work by my sales person at ClubMac.  It worked, but I had to turn off one
> monitor before starting up every time.  It became a big hassle.  It wasn't
> worth the savings.  So I returned it and got the card.
Yeah, I was dubious as previously all the converters I'd seen were nearly the
same price as a new card. However I thought buying from the Apple Store was a
safe bet, and the sales woman assured me I could send it back if it didnt
work well enough for me. That said, I've had no issues at all with it and it
works great. Was 100% plug and play as well.

~Pev

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That¹s exactly what I do and I agree I couldn¹t think about going back.  One
thing I would suggest is if possible get the same video card as is already
in your machine, I¹ve spent a lot of hours trying to match color on 2
different video cards.      Jon
> 
>  Ex: One screen for
> arrange, the other for the environment, mixers, etc. Twice as much at your
> fingertips for every screen(s) shot. It's very straight forward.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
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For PC users, can a dual head card feed two identical monitors without
confusing the OS during Plug And Pray, or do they need to be at least
slightly different?

Sorry if the question's come up before.

-----Original Message-----
From: Jon Esler [mailto:jonesler@...]
Sent: Monday, January 06, 2003 5:24 PM
To: exs-users@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [exs] Two monitors....anyone?


That\ufffds exactly what I do and I agree I couldn\ufffdt think about going back.  One
thing I would suggest is if possible get the same video card as is already
in your machine, I\ufffdve spent a lot of hours trying to match color on 2
different video cards.      Jon
>
>  Ex: One screen for
> arrange, the other for the environment, mixers, etc. Twice as much at your
> fingertips for every screen(s) shot. It's very straight forward.
>
>
>
>
>
>
> To unsubscribe from this group, send a blank email to:
>    exs-users-unsubscribe@egroups.com
> For a list of places to get free samples please see:
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>
>
>
>
>
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>'ello guys 'n gals,
>
>Anybody of you have experience using multiple monitors (on
>Mac) for Logic? I'm thinking of adding a second monitor solely for
>the audioside of things, so that every plugin (read: exs24/other
>vst-instruments) that I open will do so on the other monitor,
>instead of cluttering my view all the time...
>
>Any advice highly appreciated!

I recently got an ATI Radeon 8500 dual-head card, which I used to 
replace the stock card in my G4 733. Then got the cheapest 17"  flat 
screen I could find to add to main main monitor. The ATI was $139, 
and worth every cent. Installation and setup was trivial, you may 
have to get adaptors to plug your monitors into the card, but other 
than that it's very simple.

  Dual monitors are a necessity for programs like Logic, in fact, I 
could see getting a PCI video card to run a 3rd monitor, 1 for 
arrange window, 1 for mixer, 1 for plugins!

I hear you, man. Time to buy a bigger desk!

> Dual monitors are a necessity for programs like Logic, in fact, I
> could see getting a PCI video card to run a 3rd monitor, 1 for
> arrange window, 1 for mixer, 1 for plugins!

I'm using the Gefen adapter:
http://www.gefen.com/kvm/product.jsp?prod_id=1299

Worked like a charm out of the box. Ran me about $45 many moons ago. I have
two 15-inch LCDs, which can also use to playback signal from my DVD or
CableTV signals with picture in picture capability. Not good when working on
music (very distracting) but great when I'm stuck with the laborious task of
building new sample libraries or other administrative tasks. -Jer

> I'd just like to say...beware of cheap solutions.  This is not to denigrate
> your product, Pev.  I tried an advertised converter that was guaranteed to
> work by my sales person at ClubMac.  It worked, but I had to turn off one
> monitor before starting up every time.  It became a big hassle.  It wasn't
> worth the savings.  So I returned it and got the card.
> 
> peace,

Aaah, fantastic, thanx a lot all you people!
O.





--- In exs-users@yahoogroups.com, <HELP@M...> wrote:
> I'm using the Gefen adapter:
> http://www.gefen.com/kvm/product.jsp?prod_id=1299
> 
> Worked like a charm out of the box. Ran me about $45 many 
moons ago. I have
> two 15-inch LCDs, which can also use to playback signal from 
my DVD or
> CableTV signals with picture in picture capability. Not good 
when working on
> music (very distracting) but great when I'm stuck with the 
laborious task of
> building new sample libraries or other administrative tasks. 
-Jer
> 
> > I'd just like to say...beware of cheap solutions.  This is not to 
denigrate
> > your product, Pev.  I tried an advertised converter that was 
guaranteed to
> > work by my sales person at ClubMac.  It worked, but I had to 
turn off one
> > monitor before starting up every time.  It became a big 
hassle.  It wasn't

> > worth the savings.  So I returned it and got the card.
> > 
> > peace,