EXS 24 Logic Sampler Users Group

Many thanks --

Main question:  can I speed a drum loop up slightly, even if I'm not worried about a slight pitch change?  Is there a mechanism short of editing the loop for doing that?  I've seen friends with hardware samplers do it.

And, as far as altering tempos of drum loops, is the real solution just to buy Recycle (which I've never used)?

--- mjmartin64@... wrote: 
> Main question:  can I speed a drum loop up slightly, even if I'm not
> worried about a slight pitch change?  Is there a mechanism short of editing
> the loop for doing that?  I've seen friends with hardware samplers do it.
Sure, just edit the sample in the Logic sample editor (the E button in
instrument edit) and use the time and pitch factory. You can timestretch
whith or without pitch alteration this way.

> And, as far as altering tempos of drum loops, is the real solution just to
> buy Recycle (which I've never used)?
Thats a different kind of solution as it chops up the loop rather than
timestretch. If you're just using audio loops as whole entities, try
experimenting with using them as pure audio regions instead of EXS samples -
its a lot easier, and the whole timestretch issue is simpler using the
'adjust tempo using object length and locators' function in arrange.

HTH a little.

~Pev

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mjmartin64@... wrote:

>
> Main question:  can I speed a drum loop up slightly, even if I'm not worried about a slight pitch change?  Is there a mechanism short of editing the loop for doing that?  I've seen friends with hardware samplers do it.

The easiest, although least flexible way, would be to just use some pitch bend. Go in to the event list where you can easily fine tune the pitch bend amount in order to get more subtler tempo/pitch variations than you will with a joy stick or PB wheel.

Once you find a new speed/transpose value you like, bounce it to disc as a new file, trim it, then use the adjust object length to loacators command inside Logic to determine the new tempo. If you wanted to, you could then even reload the new loop back into the EXS for more manipulation.

> And, as far as altering tempos of drum loops, is the real solution just to buy Recycle (which I've never used)?

This sort of thing is another approach. It offers more flexibility and since it is quicker to get results, one is inclined to try/experiment in more ways. An alternative to Recycle is pHATmatik Pro. This operates as a plugin inside of Logic. In many ways it is a lot more easy to use and more seamlessly integrated with Logic. Although that's a whole other topic. If you search the archives for this list you'll find plenty of insightful discussion as to the relative merits, features, and comparisons between Recycle, pHATmatik Pro, and Groove Conrol.

Good luck and welcome on board!


--
Eli Krantzberg
Nightshift Orchestra / Almat Productions
http://www.nightshiftorchestra.com

> > And, as far as altering tempos of drum loops, is the real solution just
to buy Recycle (which I've never used)?
>
> This sort of thing is another approach. It offers more flexibility and
since it is quicker to get results, one is inclined to try/experiment in
more ways. An alternative to Recycle is pHATmatik Pro. This operates as a
plugin inside of Logic. In many ways it is a lot more easy to use and more
seamlessly integrated with Logic. Although that's a whole other topic. If
you search the archives for this list you'll find plenty of insightful
discussion as to the relative merits, features, and comparisons between
Recycle, pHATmatik Pro, and Groove Conrol. >

I would like to doubly endorse PPro. There are file handling issues that
some users find lacking (works fine for me) but logic integration is
excellent and I can't imagine there is currently a faster way to have a
decently edited loop instantly sliced and diced straight into the arrange
page for editing and tempo changes. There are possible improvements that I
am sure will be addressed as the product grows given how new it is but it is
already an impressive product. The top and tail cropping of files and more
effective auditioning within PPro's main page being my 2 areas of preferred
improvement.

Tony Perretta

Ps. For teddybut: I think you confused someone and myself with being a lug
admin.

> Tony Perretta
> 
> Ps. For teddybut: I think you confused someone and myself with being a lug
> admin.

no.... it's not you. someone else. I can't figure it out.

tk