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Hi,	

Tried to transfer a complete song from DiO to DAE with ESB and DTDM.
All the instruments  transfer perfect, but I have a problem with the 
audio files.
When I set the track from DiO to DAE I loose my settings (panning etc.) 
and the track jumps to mono!
After switching them to stereo, I only hear 1 side!! And I just can't 
find the solution!
Has anyone of you got a tip how to make a smooth transfer for audio 
files from DiO to DAE?

thanx  Renger

on 26/1/03 9:42 am, Renger Koning at renger@... wrote:

> Hi, 
> 
> Tried to transfer a complete song from DiO to DAE with ESB and DTDM.
> All the instruments  transfer perfect, but I have a problem with the
> audio files.
> When I set the track from DiO to DAE I loose my settings (panning etc.)
> and the track jumps to mono!
> After switching them to stereo, I only hear 1 side!! And I just can't
> find the solution!
> Has anyone of you got a tip how to make a smooth transfer for audio
> files from DiO to DAE?
> 
> thanx  Renger
> 
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Hi, I had a similar problem switching from ASIO.  Try loading the song by
double clicking it - Logic asks if you want to convert the song to DAE (this
can be hit n miss for me, perhaps someone knows a way so logic does this
everytime?...).  This gets your pans and plugins (if compatible).  On the
playing stereo files front this works for me although the prob sounds a tad
different.  Load up the song. Double click audio file.  Select "Save
selection As..." from the file menu.  Resave as a split stereo file and
import in place of the original file.

Hope this helps

Tim Powell

Hello all,


I¹m looking for some feedback/suggestions for some horn CD¹s. I like the
style of both Ilio/Spectrasonics ŒMemphis Horns¹ and Best Service¹s ŒKiller
Horns 2¹ demos. I know both are phrase based, but I would also want single
note/articulation samples as well; my understanding is that Killer Horns 2
includes them, but Memphis Horns does not. Unfortunately, I¹ve only seen KH2
listed as an audio CD, is it available in Akai 1000 (or heaven forbid,
native EXS24)? Oh yes, I almost forgot, how complete is the repackaged
multi-format Phantom Horns, and/or how completely have people found the giga
version to translate within EXS?

Any insights on either (or alternative) discs would be greatly appreciated.


Regards,

    Shane


-- 
Shane Fawkes, 
Director of Music, 
Walnut Grove Secondary School,
Langley, B.C. Canada

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I've heard that Sam Horns are excellent several times on this list.

> Hello all,
> 
> 
> I¹m looking for some feedback/suggestions for some horn CD¹s. I like the
> style of both Ilio/Spectrasonics ŒMemphis Horns¹ and Best Service¹s ŒKiller
> Horns 2¹ demos. I know both are phrase based, but I would also want single
> note/articulation samples as well; my understanding is that Killer Horns 2
> includes them, but Memphis Horns does not. Unfortunately, I¹ve only seen KH2
> listed as an audio CD, is it available in Akai 1000 (or heaven forbid,
> native EXS24)? Oh yes, I almost forgot, how complete is the repackaged
> multi-format Phantom Horns, and/or how completely have people found the giga
> version to translate within EXS?
> 
> Any insights on either (or alternative) discs would be greatly appreciated.
> 
> 
> Regards,
> 
>   Shane
>

HELP@... wrote:
> I've heard that Sam Horns are excellent several times on this list.

MBCamp,

SAM Horns are great, no doubt, but they have little to do with R n' B!!! 
They're French Horns, and are aimed at orchestral writing.

Shane,

Quantum Leap Brass, on the other hand, features many more brass 
instruments, and many articulations. No licks there however, only single 
hits. I own Killer Horns 1 and it is quite good. It's a mixed cd-rom, 
however, meaning that part of the material is audio only and part is AKAI, 
which makes things a little confusing. It's a good deal for the buck and 
the sound is good, although the collection is quite a bit old now. This 
translates into pretty short samples. Memphis Horns may be your best bet.

Ned




http://www.nedfx.com

       Ned Bouhalassa

n e d @ n e d f x . c o m

Yeah, I figured I was out of my league on that one since I've never heard
them. Funny no one every mentioned that before (that I can recall). Anyway,
I'm interested in what you find out. -Jer

> SAM Horns are great, no doubt, but they have little to do with R n' B!!!
> They're French Horns, and are aimed at orchestral writing.

>> > I've heard that Sam Horns are excellent several times on this list.
>> > 
>>> >> 
>>> >> I¹m looking for some feedback/suggestions for some horn CD¹s. I like the
>>> >> style 
>>> >> of both Ilio/Spectrasonics ŒMemphis Horns¹ and Best Service¹s ŒKiller
>>> Horns 
>>> >> 2¹ 
>>> >> demos.

I thought Sam Horns (& Tbn) were more orchestral in function; I¹ll go back
and check it out. Thanks.


Regards,

    Shane


-- 
Shane Fawkes, 
Director of Music, 
Walnut Grove Secondary School,
Langley, B.C. Canada

sfawkes@...
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somewhere, in a land far away, Ned Bouhalassa at ned@... wrote:

>> > HELP@... wrote:
>>> >> I've heard that Sam Horns are excellent several times on this list.
>> > 
>> > MBCamp,
>> > 
>> > SAM Horns are great, no doubt, but they have little to do with R n' B!!!
>> > They're French Horns, and are aimed at orchestral writing.
> 
> Yeah, I went back to check, in case I¹d missed something...All legit playing.
>> > 
>> > Shane,
>> > 
>> > Quantum Leap Brass, on the other hand, features many more brass
>> > instruments, and many articulations. No licks there however, only single
>> > hits. I own Killer Horns 1 and it is quite good. It's a mixed cd-rom,
>> > however, meaning that part of the material is audio only and part is AKAI,
>> > which makes things a little confusing. It's a good deal for the buck and
>> > the sound is good, although the collection is quite a bit old now. This
>> > translates into pretty short samples. Memphis Horns may be your best bet.
>> > 
>> > Ned
> 
> What format (QLB) are you using Ned? Giga or the redone multi format version?
> My understanding is that the multi-format version does not include all that is
> on the giga version, but I have not been able to find out any detailed info on
> that.
> 


Regards,

    Shane


-- 
Shane Fawkes, 
Director of Music, 
Walnut Grove Secondary School,
Langley, B.C. Canada

sfawkes@...
sfawkes@...



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Shane Fawkes wrote:

>
> I1m looking for some feedback/suggestions for some horn CD1s.

Hi Shane,

I know this isn't directly about the CDs you were asking about, but I was at a client's place a few days ago doing some work for her and she had a CD called Brass Super Section in Akai format. She has a Gigiastudio setup and had it in there. But I converted it into her EXS 24 through the vanilla Emagic conversion (in Logic 5.2) to try it out. Some of the sounds are very nice, some are pretty good and some are really nothing I would want to use (like any sample CD I guess).

The section and solo single shot multisamples were pretty good on each of the saxes, trumpets, and trombones. The short shots (also with falls which were very nice) were all very good. The legato multisamples were mixed. Some of the saxes were nice. The trombones and trumpets were pretty good. And there were some very nice muted trumpet mustisamples too, both legato and stacatto. It's not a "modern" CD rom, in that the samples aren't particularly big. It's from that generation of CDs designed for 32 meg samplers. But they're still for the most part very musical and fun to play on.

But what realy bugged me was the conversion. There was a lot of latency in triggering many of the samples. When I went into the sample editor I of course saw silence at the beginning of the files which was the cause. So it seems it didn't convert the sample start points very well. Yes you could go in and manually fix the start points of the problem multisamples, but it's a lot of work.

Same thing at the ends of the samples.Some had bad clicks and noise at the end. A quick look in the sample editor revealed lots of empty space at the end. So it was easily remedied by moving the end anchor in, but it's a drag (pun intended).

I'm going back to her place tomorrow night to do some work and will check it out in her Giga setup to see if Giga converted it any better. I'm curious.

Aside from the sample start/end problems, I'd pick up this CD Rom if I could get it at a good price. Seeing as how it's a "last generation" type of rom, maybe the price isn't too high for it; I don't know.


--
Eli Krantzberg
Nightshift Orchestra / Almat Productions
http://www.nightshiftorchestra.com

Thanks Eli,

Any other title selections are more than welcome; those are just a couple of
the ones I¹m aware of. If you get a chance to further investigate the Brass
Super Section I¹d appreciate any further comments.



somewhere, in a land far away, Eli Krantzberg at elik@... wrote:

> 
>> > I know this isn't directly about the CDs you were asking about, but I was
>> at a 
>> > client's place a few days ago doing some work for her and she had a CD
>> called 
>> > Brass Super Section in Akai format. She has a Gigiastudio setup and had it
>> in 
>> > there. But I converted it into her EXS 24 through the vanilla Emagic
>> > conversion (in Logic 5.2) to try it out. Some of the sounds are very nice,
>> > some are pretty good and some are really nothing I would want to use (like
>> any 
>> > sample CD I guess).
>> > 
>> > 
>> > I'm going back to her place tomorrow night to do some work and will check
>> it 
>> > out in her Giga setup to see if Giga converted it any better. I'm curious.
>> > 
>> > Aside from the sample start/end problems, I'd pick up this CD Rom if I
>> could 
>> > get it at a good price. Seeing as how it's a "last generation" type of rom,
>> > maybe the price isn't too high for it; I don't know.
>> > 
>> > 
>> > --
>> > Eli Krantzberg

Regards,

    Shane


-- 
Shane Fawkes, 
Director of Music, 
Walnut Grove Secondary School,
Langley, B.C. Canada

sfawkes@...
sfawkes@....ca



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En un mensaje con fecha 26/01/03 02:47:35 p.m. Hora estándar de México, 
HELP@... escribe:


> I've heard that Sam Horns are excellent several times on this list.
> 
> 

Sam Horns Is excellent but is only a French Horn section (Classical and Film 
Score type of sounds ) you'll find very good sounds and Fxs,  but no phrased 
sound.

Elith


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