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Murray,

Yeah, these are great downloads, but... they've been up for at least a year!!!

Can't wait for SAM Trombones...

Ned

Murray McDowall wrote:
> Project Sam have some new free downloads in Gig format.
> 
> Timpani (33MB) and Flute FX (15MB)


http://www.nedfx.com

       Ned Bouhalassa

n e d @ n e d f x . c o m

Hey Ned...while you're there....are the EXP patches, from your Garritan 
String Library, functional in the EXS.

Thanks,
julie



On Thursday, February 13, 2003, at 07:35 AM, Ned Bouhalassa wrote:

> Murray,
>
> Yeah, these are great downloads, but... they've been up for at least a 
> year!!!
>
> Can't wait for SAM Trombones...
>
> Ned
>
> Murray McDowall wrote:
> > Project Sam have some new free downloads in Gig format.
> >
> > Timpani (33MB) and Flute FX (15MB)
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> http://www.nedfx.com
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>        Ned Bouhalassa
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> n e d @ n e d f x . c o m
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it may have been around for a while but I wasn't aware of this.

thanks for the link murray.


>From: Murray McDowall <murraymc@...>
>Reply-To: exs-users@yahoogroups.com
>To: exs-users@yahoogroups.com
>Subject: [exs] Project Sam freebies
>Date: Thu, 13 Feb 2003 23:24:25 +1100
>
>Project Sam have some new free downloads in Gig format.
>
>Timpani (33MB) and Flute FX (15MB)
>
>Here's the link:
>
>http://www.projectsam.nl/products.html

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Hi and good morning Julie (unless you're in Europe or Asia!!),

No, I only use the simple patches in GOS. AFAIK, all the GIGA formating 
does not work in EXS (except the Keyswitching). I'm hoping that Gary G will 
do an EXS version of the library (I'll write him today to see if there's 
any chance in the near future. Don't hesitate to write me to see what he 
answered). In the meantime, the sounds are great enough for me to get a lot 
of work done!

:-)

Julie Larson wrote:
> Hey Ned...while you're there....are the EXP patches, from your Garritan
> String Library, functional in the EXS.



http://www.nedfx.com

       Ned Bouhalassa

n e d @ n e d f x . c o m

At 01:51 PM 2/13/03 +0000, you wrote: 

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> it may have been around for a while but I wasn't aware of this.
>
> thanks for the link murray.


No Problem.

BTW  Did anyone try the David Das Dry Drums I put up yesterday? I get the odd
email privately about the things I put up but have no way of knowing if they
are much use to others. 

The original Kontakt set is a 21.8 MB download (see my post yesterday for the
link) but I think they are well worth having -- 24 bit samples and 3 or 4 way
velocity switching for all close miced instruments and also for the full set of
samples taken with the stereo overheads. 

The sound of the overhead samples (for kick, snare, hats, toms and cymbals) is
good --  and besides the Wizoo Mixtended Sets and the huge Drumkit From Hell
set these sorts of samples not commonplace. 

Regards,
Murray

Murray,

Thanks for the DDDD (!) kit. It works fine for me. Good drum kits with 
multiple velocities are always useful, I would think. The only thing I miss 
is a rim shot. I'm not quite sure if I understand the output settings, but 
I suppose it means that I'm supposed to set up a bunch of Aux channels, right?

BTW, I didn't mean to diminish your SAM post - I just didn't want some 
people who might already have them to think that this was something new. 
Thanks for keeping this group dynamic!

Ned

Murray McDowall wrote:
> BTW  Did anyone try the David Das Dry Drums I put up yesterday? I get 
> the odd
> email privately about the things I put up but have no way of knowing if they
> are much use to others.



http://www.nedfx.com

       Ned Bouhalassa

n e d @ n e d f x . c o m

At 08:35 AM 2/13/03 -0500, you wrote: 
>
> Murray,



Hi Ned,


>
> Yeah, these are great downloads, but... they've been up for at least a
> year!!!


Really?  ;-(

LOL

-- Sorry.

I got the Sam's Trumpets set when they were put up last year and I haven't
noticed the others on the site. I saw some discussion on these two on another
forum and went to get them myself so I thought I would pass it on.  

I am interested in the Sams Trombones too -- I wonder if they will do a bundle
wtih the horns or alternatively offer a discount to licencees of the horns?
Anyone know the score here?

Don't know if anyone remembers the soundtrack to Taxi Driver -- besides the
sleazy alto sax theme there were some massive orchestral pieces -- one very
distintive one with long swells on french horns and trombones which is
prominent in the opening sequences. The deeper horns in ensemble can develop a
very rich and powerful sound.

Regards,
Murray

Ned Bouhalassa wrote: 


>
> Thanks for the DDDD (!) kit. It works fine for me. Good drum kits with 
> multiple velocities are always useful, I would think. The only thing I miss 
> is a rim shot. I'm not quite sure if I understand the output settings, but 
> I suppose it means that I'm supposed to set up a bunch of Aux channels,
> right?


Yep -- exacltly.

If you don't bother with the multiouts (just open either intrument in a Stereo
EXS24 instance) the whole thing will collapse to 1 pair of stereo outputs and
you will get the blend of the OH and the close mic on all the kick, snare, tom
and hat samples. This may not be to your liking.

If you set up a Multiout EXS24 instance and a bunch of Aux objects which you
have to set up to receive the outputs from the EXS24 you will get fine control
over all these sounds. You can mute all the overheads (except for the cymbals
for which there are only overhead samples)  or all the close miced samples or
blend them in the proportions that suit your tune. 

In the original Kontakt version (David Das) all the overheads were routed to a
single stereo pair of outputs. Each set of mono close miced samples were routed
to a separate mono output (Hats, Kick, Snare  had a group each and the 4 toms
were in 4 separate groups panned differently). With the EXS24 it is probably
easier to have one group for the toms and pan the individual zones. I created 6
toms from the two sample sets by tuning each one up and down to generate three
"toms" from each tom sample set. You can play with the tuning and panning a bit
more if you like.

To get either EXS24 instrument configuration (A. all OH to one stereo out or
B.  all OH sample sets to separate outs) to work,  you will need a bunch of Aux
objects set up in your Audio Layer of the Environment and to make each Aux mono
or stero to suit. 

I went with the EXS24 default of 1-2, 3-4, 5-6, 7-8 and 9-10 as stereo pairs
and 11,12,13,14,15, 16 as mono outputs. If you create an autoload with say 16
Aux objects you should have a few to spare. 


>
> BTW, I didn't mean to diminish your SAM post - I just didn't want some 
> people who might already have them to think that this was something new. 
> Thanks for keeping this group dynamic!


My pleasure.

Regards,
Murray

somewhere, in a land far away, Murray McDowall at murraymc@...
wrote:

> 
> BTW  Did anyone try the David Das Dry Drums I put up yesterday? I get the odd
> email privately about the things I put up but have no way of knowing if they
> are much use to others.

Murray,

Although I haven¹t had time to do anything more than open them up and do a 2
min. audition, they seem to work, and sound good on a cursory listen. Many
thanks, I suspect they will be quite useful.


Regards,

    Shane


-- 
Shane Fawkes, 
Director of Music, 
Walnut Grove Secondary School,
Langley, B.C. Canada

sfawkes@...
sfawkes@...



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Murray,

Wow, thanks for that detailed info!

Ned

Murray McDowall wrote:
> If you set up a Multiout EXS24 instance and a bunch of Aux objects which you
> have to set up to receive the outputs from the EXS24 you will get fine 
> control  over all these sounds...


http://www.nedfx.com

       Ned Bouhalassa

n e d @ n e d f x . c o m

Thanks Murray, must've been an enormous amount of work to convert them (I
actually started doing that myself too, never finished...).

I am just wondering, sometimes I'm getting no snare sound when playing this
kit in realtime. Velocity splits and group routings seem to be all OK.

Anyways, unfortunately the snare sound is not my cup of tea (I usually like
either those pretty tight ones or the deep 70-ish funky ones), so I don't
know yet if I'll make much use of that.

Much thanks though,
Sascha

Sascha wrote: 
>
> Thanks Murray, must've been an enormous amount of work to convert them (I
> actually started doing that myself too, never finished...).


I can get through them reasonably quickly -- it gets fiddly if you make a
mistake and then copy and paste the zones with the error. I was watching the
cricket world cup on TV while I finished building it -- As you might know
cricket is a very long game ;-) I had an earlier half built version. The
earlier V2 Kontakt version I could not open in Kontakt so I couldn't see the
correct mapping.

>
> I am just wondering, sometimes I'm getting no snare sound when playing this
> kit in realtime. Velocity splits and group routings seem to be all OK.


I just tested the version I have and could not replicate this problem. I don't
think I have changed it since I put it up on Yahoo. One thing though -- you
need to assign a LOTof voices to this kit --  be generous give it 64. The
default 16 voices will not cut it at all. There are two samples triggering for
every hit of the keyboard (one overhead and one close mic) and everything is
"one shot" -- it is not hard to get up to 40 voices playing in a busy part if
you leave everything at Max voices. Cutting down the voices for the hats group
is a good idea. 

>
> Anyways, unfortunately the snare sound is not my cup of tea (I usually like
> either those pretty tight ones or the deep 70-ish funky ones), so I don't
> know yet if I'll make much use of that.


I quite like the overhead kick and hat samples. I have not had much experience
blending mics for the same drum hits and in the case of these samples I wonder
what could be achieved by playing with the time alignment of the samples (OH vs
Close mic).

Regards,
Murray