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Help saving EXS24 settings with songs

Help saving EXS24 settings with songs

2003-05-26 by David Fraga

I'd like any edits I make on the EXS24 to be song-independent and so I
followed the manual's instructions on setting up a sub-folder named "Sampler
Instruments" inside the song folder and copying the related sampler
instrument files into this folder.

Just like it says, a new hierarchical menu item appears within the EXS24's
sampler instrument flip menu containing the song's name and any instrument
entries copied to this folder earlier.

However, any edits I make don't have any effect at all on the patches from
this new menu. I don't understand why.

If I select the same intrument and patch from the original (master)
selection patch menu, the edits
work BUT, I don't want to write to the MASTER file,
I want the edits to be song-independent.

Anyone using the EXS24 know how to make this work right?

Thanks.

Re: [EXS] Help saving EXS24 settings with songs

2003-05-26 by Hans Hafner

At 14:33 Uhr -0400 26.05.2003, David Fraga wrote:
>If I select the same intrument and patch from the original (master)
>selection patch menu, the edits
>work BUT, I don't want to write to the MASTER file,
>I want the edits to be song-independent.

I have had the same problem and I think the real issue is, that the 
EXS gets confused if there are two preset files with the same name.
If you add something to the name when you do a save as... in the 
instrument editor window and then save it to your songs folder you 
should have no problem. Make sure that after doing this you actually 
have that file selected in the sampler interface.

Hope this helps
Cheers
Hans

Re: [EXS] Help saving EXS24 settings with songs

2003-05-27 by Nassau

> From: "David Fraga" <davidfraga@...>
> I'd like any edits I make on the EXS24 to be song-independent

i just open tha master instrument, make edits, don't save them in exs, but
save my logic song. the exs edits are saved with the song.

no hassle



this is on mac..

RE: [EXS] Help saving EXS24 settings with songs

2003-05-27 by David Fraga

Well, I tried what you just said.  Don't know how it works for you and not
me.  What ends up happening is, I'll say NO to saving the exs file and, Yes,
it will save the settings with the song but when I go to open up a new song
file again, that sample is now in the same way it was left when it was
edited in the last song.  In other words, the master file itself gets edited
as well instead of only in the specific song.

I'm running logic 6 on Mac OS X 10.6.2
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  -----Original Message-----
  From: Nassau [mailto:nassau@...]
  Sent: Monday, May 26, 2003 11:00 PM
  To: exs-users@yahoogroups.com
  Subject: Re: [EXS] Help saving EXS24 settings with songs


  > From: "David Fraga" <davidfraga@...>
  > I'd like any edits I make on the EXS24 to be song-independent

  i just open tha master instrument, make edits, don't save them in exs, but
  save my logic song. the exs edits are saved with the song.

  no hassle



  this is on mac..


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Re: [EXS] Help saving EXS24 settings with songs

2003-05-27 by George Leger III

On Monday, May 26, 2003, at 08:35  PM, David Fraga wrote:

> Well, I tried what you just said.  Don't know how it works for you and 
> not
> me.  What ends up happening is, I'll say NO to saving the exs file 
> and, Yes,
> it will save the settings with the song but when I go to open up a new 
> song
> file again, that sample is now in the same way it was left when it was
> edited in the last song.  In other words, the master file itself gets 
> edited
> as well instead of only in the specific song.
>

Got the same problem here, and I have for a while now.. V5 I think..

George

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Re: [EXS] Help saving EXS24 settings with songs

2003-05-27 by Nassau

>> From: "David Fraga" <davidfraga@...>
>> I'd like any edits I make on the EXS24 to be song-independent
> 
> i just open tha master instrument, make edits, don't save them in exs, but
> save my logic song. the exs edits are saved with the song.
> 
> no hassle
> 
> this is on mac..
> 
> From: "David Fraga" <davidfraga@...>
> 
> Well, I tried what you just said.  Don't know how it works for you and not
> me.  What ends up happening is, I'll say NO to saving the exs file and, Yes,
> it will save the settings with the song but when I go to open up a new song
> file again, that sample is now in the same way it was left when it was
> edited in the last song.  In other words, the master file itself gets edited
> as well instead of only in the specific song.
> 
> I'm running logic 6 on Mac OS X 10.6.2


well... i don't know... what i do is this - let's say i create a new
instrument, "steel guitar" for instance. i make this instrument exactly the
way i want it with all the settings in the exs. i save the instrument in the
sampler instruments folder (in the logic folder).

then, let's say i start new a song, where i want the "steel guitar"
instrument to be transposed. instead of making a new instrument (calling it
eg steel guitar-transposed-new song) i just tweak it as i please in the exs.
only in the graphic "sampler display" look thing tho, not in EDIT mode.
maybe this is what u mean. i'm only changing stuff like transpose,
pitchwheel, ADSR etc... not keyboardlayouts and stuff in the EDIT mode
window. after that i save my new song and my exs edits are saved with it -
and ONLY with that song-in the song file.

i'm not sure where u are trying to edit but in the graphic "sampler display"
i can edit "without" saving (other than saving the song of course).

/nassau

RE: [EXS] Help saving EXS24 settings with songs

2003-05-27 by David Fraga

Here's the answer, clear as day, right from the manual.  How I missed this
earlier I don't know.  Anyway...

"When saving any newly created or modified Sampler Instruments, ensure that
you use the "Save as" function and browse to the "Sampler Instruments"
folder inside the new song folder."

That's it.
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  -----Original Message-----
  From: George Leger III [mailto:george3@...]
  Sent: Tuesday, May 27, 2003 1:41 AM
  To: exs-users@yahoogroups.com
  Subject: Re: [EXS] Help saving EXS24 settings with songs



  On Monday, May 26, 2003, at 08:35  PM, David Fraga wrote:

  > Well, I tried what you just said.  Don't know how it works for you and
  > not
  > me.  What ends up happening is, I'll say NO to saving the exs file
  > and, Yes,
  > it will save the settings with the song but when I go to open up a new
  > song
  > file again, that sample is now in the same way it was left when it was
  > edited in the last song.  In other words, the master file itself gets
  > edited
  > as well instead of only in the specific song.
  >

  Got the same problem here, and I have for a while now.. V5 I think..

  George

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