EXS 24 Logic Sampler Users Group

the NS_Kits come in .wav and giga formats..  supposedly our exs converts
giga files... can someone help me out?  many thanks.

tv

At 10:31 PM 6/5/03 +0100, you wrote: 
>
> the NS_Kits come in .wav and giga formats..  supposedly our exs converts
> giga files... can someone help me out?  many thanks.


1) Put the Gig archive in your sampler instruments folder. 
2) Select it in the EXS24's instrument selector. 

Logic will then extract the audio wavs and save them and build an exs
instrument(s) that emulates the Giga instrument(s). In fact this emulation is
pretty good for instruments that don't depend on Giga features the EXS24 lacks.


Regards,
M

on 6/5/03 10:04 PM, Murray McDowall at murraymc@... wrote:

> At 10:31 PM 6/5/03 +0100, you wrote:
>> 
>> the NS_Kits come in .wav and giga formats..  supposedly our exs converts
>> giga files... can someone help me out?  many thanks.
> 
> 
> 1) Put the Gig archive in your sampler instruments folder.
> 2) Select it in the EXS24's instrument selector.
> 
> Logic will then extract the audio wavs and save them and build an exs
> instrument(s) that emulates the Giga instrument(s). In fact this emulation is
> pretty good for instruments that don't depend on Giga features the EXS24
> lacks.
> 
> 
> Regards,
> M


When I downloaded the Natural Studio Kit on my mac, I got six .rar folders:
ns_bigkitv6giga.part01.1.rar
ns_bigkitv6giga.part02.1.rar
ns_bigkitv6giga.part03.1.rar
ns_bigkitv6giga.part04.1.rar
ns_bigkitv6giga.part05.1.rar
ns_bigkitv6giga.part06.1.rar

Each folder contains one file with the same name:  ns_bigkitv6.gig
but each of the six files is a different size.

Not sure how to handle this.  If anyone could shed some light, please?

thanks.

Dan

At 10:38 AM 6/9/03 -0700, you wrote: 

>
> When I downloaded the Natural Studio Kit on my mac, I got six .rar folders:
> ns_bigkitv6giga.part01.1.rar
> ns_bigkitv6giga.part02.1.rar
> ns_bigkitv6giga.part03.1.rar
> ns_bigkitv6giga.part04.1.rar
> ns_bigkitv6giga.part05.1.rar
> ns_bigkitv6giga.part06.1.rar
>
> Each folder contains one file with the same name:  ns_bigkitv6.gig
> but each of the six files is a different size.
>
> Not sure how to handle this.  If anyone could shed some light, please?



This is a RAR archive in multiple parts. You need a program that can expand RAR
archives -- I am on PC but I have an idea that the latest versions of Alladin's
Expander may be able to do this. Otherwise you might need to find another Mac
app that can do this. 

The alternative is to burn the archives onto an PC compatible CDR/CDRW and use
a PC with the demo of WinRAR to perform the decompression of the archive.

Hope this helps,
Murray

There is a program called Macrar that can do it or sometimes I have had 
luck with Alladin Stuffit by starting with part01.rar and it 
decompressed in chain and you get one big file. Not sure why you got 6 
.gig files unless each one is a separate kit. Hmmmm,

simon

On Monday, June 9, 2003, at 09:15 PM, Murray McDowall wrote:

> At 10:38 AM 6/9/03 -0700, you wrote:
>
>>
>> When I downloaded the Natural Studio Kit on my mac, I got six .rar 
>> folders:
>> ns_bigkitv6giga.part01.1.rar
>> ns_bigkitv6giga.part02.1.rar
>> ns_bigkitv6giga.part03.1.rar
>> ns_bigkitv6giga.part04.1.rar
>> ns_bigkitv6giga.part05.1.rar
>> ns_bigkitv6giga.part06.1.rar
>>
>> Each folder contains one file with the same name:  ns_bigkitv6.gig
>> but each of the six files is a different size.
>>
>> Not sure how to handle this.  If anyone could shed some light, please?
>
>

on 6/5/03 10:04 PM, Murray McDowall at murraymc@... wrote:

> At 10:31 PM 6/5/03 +0100, you wrote:
>> 
>> the NS_Kits come in .wav and giga formats..  supposedly our exs converts
>> giga files... can someone help me out?  many thanks.
> 
> 
> 1) Put the Gig archive in your sampler instruments folder.
> 2) Select it in the EXS24's instrument selector.
> 
> Logic will then extract the audio wavs and save them and build an exs
> instrument(s) that emulates the Giga instrument(s). In fact this emulation is
> pretty good for instruments that don't depend on Giga features the EXS24
> lacks.
> 
> 
> Regards,
> M

I finally downloaded the new Stuffit and it expanded one .gig file that is
119.6MB.  All my other files in Sampler Instruments folder are very small
files, like 12K AND 8K.  Shouldn't this file go in the EXSamples folder?

Thanks.

Dan

Dan Chapman wrote: 

>
> I finally downloaded the new Stuffit and it expanded one .gig file that is
> 119.6MB.  All my other files in Sampler Instruments folder are very small
> files, like 12K AND 8K.  Shouldn't this file go in the EXSamples folder?


The EXS24 will only see it in the Sampler Intstruments folder -- when you
select the gig format instrument will then run its conversion routine and
extract the audio files embedded in the Gig archive to its own folder -- a
folder called DLS-Giga Samples within your Logic folder. 

You can move these files to your samples directory after this conversion if you
want to. There is some argument for sharing the load across more than one disc
if you have disk streaming on -- you could test it and see what works best on
your machine.

Regards,
Murray

on 6/9/03 8:56 PM, Murray McDowall at murraymc@... wrote:

>> 
>> I finally downloaded the new Stuffit and it expanded one .gig file that is
>> 119.6MB.  All my other files in Sampler Instruments folder are very small
>> files, like 12K AND 8K.  Shouldn't this file go in the EXSamples folder?
> 
> 
> The EXS24 will only see it in the Sampler Intstruments folder -- when you
> select the gig format instrument will then run its conversion routine and
> extract the audio files embedded in the Gig archive to its own folder -- a
> folder called DLS-Giga Samples within your Logic folder.
> 
> You can move these files to your samples directory after this conversion if
> you
> want to. There is some argument for sharing the load across more than one disc
> if you have disk streaming on -- you could test it and see what works best on
> your machine.
> 
> Regards,
> Murray

If I transfer the sample files from the DLS-Giga Samples folder, should I
keep an alias of them in the original folder?

I also downloaded the file: Natural Studio Kit.exs.  This, I assume goes in
the Sampler Instruments folder also?  Is this file necessary?

Dan

Dan Chapman wrote: 


>
> If I transfer the sample files from the DLS-Giga Samples folder, should I
> keep an alias of them in the original folder?


The EXS24 will search for audio files - it doesn't really matter where you put
them. If the alias thing works then that is an option I guess. Personally,  if
I want to move them I just drag the folder to another drive. 

The potential problem with doing this is that every instrument that uses those
files will need to search your drives to find the new locations -- when this
involves tens or hundreds of instruments it can be a PITA but for one
instrument -- who cares? There was some discussion of this by other Mac users a
couple of months ago on this list. 

>
> I also downloaded the file: Natural Studio Kit.exs.  This, I assume goes in
> the Sampler Instruments folder also?  Is this file necessary?


That file (if it is the one I uploaded)  organises the samples into groups
which makes it suitable for routing to multiple outs -- it isn't essential but
it makes the kit more flexible -- I tend to split kits up (snare, kick, hats,
toms etc) for separate processing. 

Regards,
M

on 6/10/03 11:04 AM, Murray McDowall at murraymc@... wrote:

>> 
>> If I transfer the sample files from the DLS-Giga Samples folder, should I
>> keep an alias of them in the original folder?
> 
> 
> The EXS24 will search for audio files - it doesn't really matter where you put
> them. If the alias thing works then that is an option I guess. Personally,  if
> I want to move them I just drag the folder to another drive.
> 
> The potential problem with doing this is that every instrument that uses those
> files will need to search your drives to find the new locations -- when this
> involves tens or hundreds of instruments it can be a PITA but for one
> instrument -- who cares? There was some discussion of this by other Mac users
> a
> couple of months ago on this list.
> 
>> 
>> I also downloaded the file: Natural Studio Kit.exs.  This, I assume goes in
>> the Sampler Instruments folder also?  Is this file necessary?
> 
> 
> That file (if it is the one I uploaded)  organises the samples into groups
> which makes it suitable for routing to multiple outs -- it isn't essential but
> it makes the kit more flexible -- I tend to split kits up (snare, kick, hats,
> toms etc) for separate processing.
> 
> Regards,
> M

Can the 120MB ns_bigkitv6.gig file in the Sampler Instruments folder be
trashed after the Giga conversion?

DC

DC wrote: 


>
> Can the 120MB ns_bigkitv6.gig file in the Sampler Instruments folder be
> trashed after the Giga conversion?


Sure -- I would make sure I kept a copy on CDR in case I wanted to import it
into another sampler at some stage though.

Regards,
M

Hey guys, 

2 things: (1)Could someone post a link to the Natural Kit 
download site. I got the kit in Giga a long time ago, but would like 
to try the wav version. 

(2) I was able to import the kit from my Giga file as described 
earlier in this thread. But, a lot of the nice stereo imaging, 
particularly in the cymbals, seems to be gone. In the Giga 
version all the samples are L and R mono files. The EXS on 
import puts the L into Group I and R into group 2. The panning, 
both in the zones and groups, looks correct but the output is still 
mostly if not totally, mono. 

Any ideas?

Steve