EXS 24 Logic Sampler Users Group

i'm an avid exs user, but i'm curious to hear what people are saying about
KONTAKT.  any users out there who can give me a heads up as to how it
compares to exs and your working environment (not the "environment" portion
in logic...)
peace,
tv



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> i'm an avid exs user, but i'm curious to hear what people are saying about
> KONTAKT.  any users out there who can give me a heads up as to how it
> compares to exs and your working environment (not the "environment" portion
> in logic...)
> peace,
> tv

i use both,

kontakt is much more flexible especially when the real time timemachine (not
the logic one) comes in.
i hate the interface however. ni design is not of my kind and their desicion
to even create standard toolbox interface objects them self is wrong for
powerusers (imho), it only looks better on the box. (for example the
filebrowser: only displays upper character ... good job ni. !)
you will need a fast computer for kontakt, otherwise its reaction to your
action (not musical) is a drag.

the exs is my choice for playback of librarys and "bread and butter".
buts its un-logic instrument editor is a mayor drawback when you want to
take things further. the mapping is much better in kontakt than in the exs
where its not graphical at all and a pita if you ask me.
on the other hand, the exs is much "nicer" on your cpu.

i'd say with the kombination of both you are very well prepared for
anything... besides 5.1 where both are missing out on.

hths,
ulf.

Keith Crupi wrote:
>   >i'd say with the kombination of both you are very well prepared for
> anything... besides 5.1 where both are missing out on.
> 
> What does 5.1 refer to? 

Probably to surround sound import and playback. MOTU's upcoming Mach 5 will 
do that.

>And does anybody here agree that there is STILL
> not a definitive sampler for mac?

Yes, you're right. But a few are coming really close (hint, hint: they're 
both in the the subject header). Patience, my friend. How long did it take 
Logic to become the sequencer it is today? Do you remember when loading 
more than 612k of samples was a big deal? I do - we live in wonderful times 
(for audio)...

Ned



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       Ned Bouhalassa

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>i'd say with the kombination of both you are very well prepared for
anything... besides 5.1 where both are missing out on.

What does 5.1 refer to? And does anybody here agree that there is STILL 
not a definitive sampler for mac?


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On Sunday, July 27, 2003, at 07:30  PM, Ned Bouhalassa wrote:

> Do you remember when loading
> more than 612k of samples was a big deal? I do - we live in wonderful 
> times
> (for audio)...
>
> Ned
>

Ah, A Mirage man... You know, I still don't get it when people 
complain. I remember dreaming about the day that we could own something 
with 10th the power of what I have now. Did some great records with my 
SQD-1, and Poly 800, with a totally hopped up Linn... We really do live 
in wonderful times!!!!!!!!

Thanks,
		George Leger III
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George Leger III wrote:
> We really do live
> in wonderful times!!!!!!!!

And while I totally agree on this, there's still no reason for N.I.s file
browsers to be THAT lousy (come on, Battery doesn't even have a resizeable
"open" dialog, which is an OS standard, at least on Windows, a requirement
in case you're browsing large sample directories) and the EXS editor an file
management to be even lousier (why in the world do I have to save EACH
instrument in case I only want to use it in ONE single song, such as a vocal
track that I'd like quickly slap onto some EXS keys? The EXS is the ONLY
softsampler requiring such a nonsense).
IMHO this is simply ignorant behaviour. The EXS editor has been something
that people were complaing about since the day it appeared, yet it has seen
close to no improvements, not even with Logic 6. Pretty much a
dissapointment, if you ask me. Still the easiest to handle general UI, still
the lousiest editor.

Regards,
Sascha

on 7/31/03 6:40 AM, Sascha Franck at S.Franck@... wrote:

> Still the easiest to handle general UI, still
> the lousiest editor.

I totally agree on those 2 but my  complaints about EXS are different.

Still No true multitimbral capability. This is the real ignorqant behaviour.
People also complained about this since the beginning.
Halion, Kontakt, Sample Tank and BELIEVE IT OR NOT EXSP24 has this feature.

You can save multis in most of those samplers.


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